Most makuuchi basho without a sansho

[ryafuji 815]

I was wondering about this whilst browsing the database today but I couldn't come up with a query. Anyone know? My guess would be Takamisugi: 71 top division tournaments without even one measly fighting spirit prize. That's some achievement...

[Gusoyama 103]

That's what I get too. This query is as close as I can get: DB query

[Doitsuyama 1,192]

I did some SQL and the output of the top ten is:

Takamisugi 71

Higonoumi 53

Asanowaka 52

Kitakachidoki 49

Jingaku 47

Daiyu 43

Hirosegawa 43

Kanenohana 42

Otachi 41

Toki 38

[Jonosuke 28]

But at least something to be said about longevity as all except Kanonohana and Hirosegawa stayed with the Kyokai after their retirement. In fact the half of them are still around doing their oyakata duty (with one passed away and one left prematurely). I guess getting a sansho alone does not count if they want to stay around.

[Doitsuyama 1,192]

Well, maybe the next bunch had also some post-intai success? Let's look at the rest with 30 or more makuuchi basho:

Tokibayama 36

Futatsuryu 36

Kiyoenami 36

Misugiiso 35

Daizen 35

Kirinishiki 34

Jumonji 34

Ho-o 34

Wakasegawa 33

Kaminishiki 32

Asanosho 32

Shimanishiki 31

Udagawa 31

Daitetsu 31

Otsukasa 30

Tamaryu 30

Toyonoumi 30

[Zuikakuyama 1]

Are these data based on longest maku stay without ever getting any sansho or does it take into the account also of the longest streak without sansho?

i.e, I am thinking of a situation where a rikishi stays in Maku for a long time, but finally gets a sansho after x tournaments. Obviously, I would exclude the ozekis and yokozunas from this list since they don't even qualify for getting one.

[Doitsuyama 1,192]

Are these data based on longest maku stay without ever getting any sansho or does it take into the account also of the longest streak without sansho?

i.e, I am thinking of a situation where a rikishi stays in Maku for a long time, but finally gets a sansho after x tournaments. Obviously, I would exclude the ozekis and yokozunas from this list since they don't even qualify for getting one.

It's the first one. By the way, there is obviously no need to eliminate yokozuna for your second option, as it's difficult to get a sansho after getting promoted to yokozuna. Besides, all yokozuna and ozeki (after 1950) have at least two sansho (with the exception of Ouchiyama with only one sansho).

[Asashosakari 19,500]

By the way, there is obviously no need to eliminate yokozuna for your second option, as it's difficult to get a sansho after getting promoted to yokozuna. Besides, all yokozuna and ozeki (after 1950) have at least two sansho (with the exception of Ouchiyama with only one sansho).

I think he means to exclude yokozuna and ozeki because he's looking not just for the longest time to the first sansho, but also longest time in between sansho, or after the last one (where you'd see long-time Y/O show up).

Edit: Or maybe that's just what I was reading into it...on second reading I think you got the right interpretation. Never mind. ;-)

Edited May 15, 2008 by Asashosakari

[ryafuji 815]

Tamakasuga is perhaps worth a mention here too as he went 55 tournaments between awards, a record I believe.