Day 2 lower division results

[Doitsuyama 1,192]

Russian Aran and heavy Yamamotoyama are very close to juryo already, and in a bout between them Aran managed to level the head-to-head record at 3-3 with a win. The next three bouts featured a former sekitori against an upcoming talent, and Minami was the only winner among the talents as Shotenro and Mori lost to Wakatenro and Hochiyama. Many talents won the first bout today, including Tamaasuka (still only 25 years old on his way back), Sokokurai, Fukuoka, Fukunaga, Kitazono and Sasaki.

Tochitenko is in his 158th basho since hatsu dohyo which sets a new record, surpassing the 157 basho from Oshio. Appropriately Tochitenko managed to climb back to makushita for the occasion after a year in high sandanme, as this is his 117th makushita basho, extending his record for most makushita basho. Looking at number of basho in makushita or better, he still is third with 128 behind Makimoto (129) and Oshio (138).

Czech Takanoyama just slipped to sandanme with a 3-4 last basho and he started with a win against Wakakasuga. Hungarian Masutoo lost, while former makushita Hakiai won on his long climb back up the banzuke. Ogata started his sandanme debut with a win as well. Fukao won in jonidan against experienced Fusanohana.

Jonokuchi

Jk43e  Takatenshu (1-0)	yorikiri	   Jk42w  Iwabuchi (0-1)
Jk40e  Kawahara (1-0)	  yorikiri	   Jk40w  Tsurushinobu (0-1)
Jk38w  Kato (1-0)		  kubinage	   Jk38e  Kawabata (0-1)
Jk36e  Takada (1-0)		uwatenage	  Jk35w  Sakuma (0-1)
Jk34e  Kanryu (1-0)		uwatenage	  Jk33w  Kotoumeda (0-1)
Jk32e  Miyakita (1-0)	  oshidashi	  Jk30w  Enami (0-1)
Jk29e  Motokiyama (1-0)	oshidashi	  Jk28w  Oigarashi (0-1)
Jk26e  Shinohara (1-0)	 sukuinage	  Jk27e  Tsugukuni (0-1)
Jk24w  Arai (1-0)		  tsukiotoshi	Jk24e  Tomita (0-1)
Jk22e  Abe (1-0)		   oshidashi	  Jk22w  Hamawaki (0-1)
Jk20w  Yamada (1-0)		yoritaoshi	 Jk20e  Taguchi (0-1)
Jk18w  Kotonakai (1-0)	 yoritaoshi	 Jk18e  Kakumaru (0-1)
Jk14w  Isamizuki (1-0)	 oshidashi	  Jk16w  Kimiwada (0-1)
Jk13w  Tatsuhibiki (1-0)   hatakikomi	 Jk15w  Kimishima (0-1)
Jk11w  Kotoenomoto (1-0)   oshidashi	  Jk11e  Akinokawa (0-1)
Jk9w   Inoue (1-0)		 oshidashi	  Jk7w   Fukai (0-1)
Jk6e   Shintaku (1-0)	  yorikiri	   Jk6w   Shuho (0-1)
Jk4w   Masuamami (1-0)	 yorikiri	   Jk4e   Tochidaiho (0-1)
Jk2e   Wakahizen (1-0)	 oshidashi	  Jk2w   Yoshimura (0-1)

Jonidan

Jd134e Owaka (1-0)		 hatakikomi	 Jd134w Hamadayama (0-1)
Jd132w Daishoai (1-0)	  oshidashi	  Jd132e Fukusegawa (0-1)
Jd130w Kotomyozan (1-0)	yorikiri	   Jd130e Daikosei (0-1)
Jd128w Hashimoto (1-0)	 yorikiri	   Jd128e Ebisumaru (0-1)
Jd126w Yoshioyama (1-0)	yorikiri	   Jd126e Tamakazan (0-1)
Jd124e Kainofuji (1-0)	 kubinage	   Jd124w Toshi (0-1)
Jd122e Mitsugi (1-0)	   yorikiri	   Jd122w Fujinohana (0-1)
Jd120w Kainokura (1-0)	 uwatedashinage Jd120e Kanai (0-1)
Jd118w Daigen (1-0)		yoritaoshi	 Jd118e Yoshinofuji (0-1)
Jd116w Tsubakifuji (1-0)   oshidashi	  Jd116e Kitakenmu (0-1)
Jd114e Takamine (1-0)	  okuridashi	 Jd114w Otsukuba (0-1)
Jd112w Shobimaru (1-0)	 oshidashi	  Jd112e Takeda (0-1)
Jd110w Tsunehikari (1-0)   yorikiri	   Jd110e Kotosaito (0-1)
Jd108e Taketoba (1-0)	  katasukashi	Jd108w Budozan (0-1)
Jd106w Takahashi (1-0)	 yorikiri	   Jd106e Asashogo (0-1)
Jd104w Arajishi (1-0)	  tsukiotoshi	Jd104e Kagamiryu (0-1)
Jd102w Fujiazuma (1-0)	 oshidashi	  Jd102e Daihayabusa (0-1)
Jd100e Oarai (1-0)		 okuridashi	 Jd99w  Kikusegawa (0-1)
Jd97w  Ohifuji (1-0)	   sukuinage	  Jd97e  Tateishi (0-1)
Jd95e  Kasachikara (1-0)   yoritaoshi	 Jd95w  Masuda (0-1)
Jd93e  Homarefuji (1-0)	oshidashi	  Jd93w  Torinzan (0-1)
Jd91e  Koshinryu (1-0)	 oshidashi	  Jd92e  Teraoryu (0-1)
Jd89e  Tsuchiya (1-0)	  oshidashi	  Jd89w  Anjoryu (0-1)
Jd87e  Kosenho (1-0)	   fusen		  Jd87w  Abeshima (0-1)
Jd85w  Oseumi (1-0)		yorikiri	   Jd84w  Kamakari (0-1)
Jd82w  Kyokuhozan (1-0)	oshidashi	  Jd83e  Nekomata (0-1)
Jd80w  Wakanofuji (1-0)	yorikiri	   Jd81e  Anju (0-1)
Jd78w  Tamahikari (1-0)	yorikiri	   Jd79e  Noguchi (0-1)
Jd77e  Hatachidake (1-0)   tsukiotoshi	Jd76w  Kojima (0-1)
Jd74e  Wakabayashi (1-0)   yorikiri	   Jd74w  Yatsurugi (0-1)
Jd73e  Shobushi (1-0)	  oshidashi	  Jd71w  Teraonami (0-1)
Jd69w  Takasuruga (1-0)	tsukiotoshi	Jd70e  Misakiyama (0-1)
Jd67w  Kinoshita (1-0)	 oshidashi	  Jd68e  Kainomiya (0-1)
Jd65w  Daishoiwa (1-0)	 yorikiri	   Jd66e  Kaminoyama (0-1)
Jd63w  Tamakishin (1-0)	yorikiri	   Jd64e  Tagen (0-1)
Jd60w  Kei (1-0)		   shitatenage	Jd62e  Amanowaka (0-1)
Jd59e  Aiyama (1-0)		yorikiri	   Jd59w  Wakamiura (0-1)
Jd57w  Yuwa (1-0)		  oshitaoshi	 Jd57e  Hazukiyama (0-1)
Jd55e  Sato (1-0)		  yoritaoshi	 Jd55w  Tochiotoha (0-1)
Jd53w  Sadanohama (1-0)	yorikiri	   Jd53e  Kotokobai (0-1)
Jd51w  Kawataka (1-0)	  yorikiri	   Jd51e  Tsurunoumi (0-1)
Jd49e  Tochitensho (1-0)   kirikaeshi	 Jd49w  Daika (0-1)
Jd47e  Masumiura (1-0)	 oshitaoshi	 Jd47w  Yudai (0-1)
Jd45w  Koju (1-0)		  oshidashi	  Jd45e  Taiyo (0-1)
Jd43w  Koriki (1-0)		yorikiri	   Jd43e  Komanohide (0-1)
Jd41w  Chiyonishiki (1-0)  oshidashi	  Jd41e  Ikinoshima (0-1)
Jd39e  Shotsukasa (1-0)	oshidashi	  Jd39w  Asakubo (0-1)
Jd37w  Hamamiiwa (1-0)	 sukuinage	  Jd37e  Daigonishiki (0-1)
Jd35e  Teraosho (1-0)	  oshidashi	  Jd35w  Hokazan (0-1)
Jd33e  Mikitensho (1-0)	oshidashi	  Jd32w  Onoyama (0-1)
Jd30w  Kinokawa (1-0)	  okuritaoshi	Jd31e  Ikedo (0-1)
Jd28w  Sekiho (1-0)		yorikiri	   Jd29e  Omiyamoto (0-1)
Jd26e  Kaorufuji (1-0)	 yorikiri	   Jd27e  Masumeidai (0-1)
Jd24e  Fukao (1-0)		 oshidashi	  Jd24w  Fusanohana (0-1)
Jd22w  Naniwaryu (1-0)	 oshidashi	  Jd22e  Ayanokaze (0-1)
Jd19w  Ebashi (1-0)		kirikaeshi	 Jd20e  Kotobuki (0-1)
Jd18e  Hatayama (1-0)	  hatakikomi	 Jd17w  Iitani (0-1)
Jd15e  Teraoho (1-0)	   yorikiri	   Jd15w  Masunoumi (0-1)
Jd13e  Shinzan (1-0)	   hatakikomi	 Jd13w  Tochinoshima (0-1)
Jd11w  Tamadaito (1-0)	 uwatenage	  Jd11e  Gonoumi (0-1)
Jd9e   Hirose (1-0)		hikiotoshi	 Jd9w   Ryusei (0-1)
Jd7e   Tosa (1-0)		  yorikiri	   Jd7w   Kuboshima (0-1)
Jd6e   Kozan (1-0)		 hikiotoshi	 Jd5e   Daishoryu (0-1)
Jd2w   Nioyama (1-0)	   oshidashi	  Jd3w   Tanno (0-1)
Jd1w   Umenokawa (1-0)	 shitatenage	Jd1e   Kairyu (0-1)

Sandanme

Sd98w  Yakunoshima (1-0)   oshidashi	  Sd99w  Hoshiazuma (0-1)
Sd96w  Tanemaru (1-0)	  yorikiri	   Sd97e  Toranoyama (0-1)
Sd94w  Raiho (1-0)		 hatakikomi	 Sd95e  Kotoninsei (0-1)
Sd92e  Ogata (1-0)		 oshidashi	  Sd92w  Kanko (0-1)
Sd90w  Kotoshimoda (1-0)   oshitaoshi	 Sd90e  Torugawa (0-1)
Sd88e  Tsubasaumi (1-0)	oshidashi	  Sd88w  Hidaka (0-1)
Sd86e  Kasuganami (1-0)	kotenage	   Sd86w  Kaisho (0-1)
Sd84e  Takaisamu (1-0)	 oshidashi	  Sd84w  Tokiryu (0-1)
Sd82e  Kihonoumi (1-0)	 shitatenage	Sd81w  Chiyonokuni (0-1)
Sd79w  Kasugaryu (1-0)   shitatedashinage Sd80e  Wakahikari (0-1)
Sd78e  Oazuma (1-0)		yoritaoshi	 Sd77w  Komanokuni (0-1)
Sd75w  Yuzawa (1-0)		oshidashi	  Sd76e  Yutakaumi (0-1)
Sd74e  Daihoyama (1-0)	 yorikiri	   Sd73w  Kasugashima (0-1)
Sd71w  Shinyu (1-0)		katasukashi	Sd72e  Kasugamine (0-1)
Sd69w  Tenryo (1-0)		yorikiri	   Sd70e  Tochiminato (0-1)
Sd67w  Akai (1-0)		  oshidashi	  Sd68e  Rachimi (0-1)
Sd65w  Shima (1-0)		 oshidashi	  Sd66e  Satonofuji (0-1)
Sd64e  Yamatofuji (1-0)	hatakikomi	 Sd63w  Kabutoiwa (0-1)
Sd62e  Toho (1-0)		  yorikiri	   Sd61w  Iryoku (0-1)
Sd59w  Genkaiho (1-0)	  oshidashi	  Sd60e  Hakunoryu (0-1)
Sd57w  Hamaeiko (1-0)	  yorikiri	   Sd58e  Tochikasuga (0-1)
Sd55e  Goki (1-0)		  yorikiri	   Sd56e  Kotowatanabe (0-1)
Sd53w  Kamakura (1-0)	  oshidashi	  Sd53e  Asadoryu (0-1)
Sd50w  Tsukamoto (1-0)	 oshidashi	  Sd51w  Takamiryu (0-1)
Sd48w  Mankajo (1-0)	   tsukiotoshi	Sd49e  Kihaku (0-1)
Sd46w  Chiyonoshin (1-0)   yorikiri	   Sd47e  Futamusashi (0-1)
Sd44w  Orora (1-0)		 yorikiri	   Sd45e  Isoazuma (0-1)
Sd42w  Sakigake (1-0)	  yorikiri	   Sd43e  Tochinokuni (0-1)
Sd40e  Yamaguchi (1-0)	 yorikiri	   Sd41e  Konofuji (0-1)
Sd38w  Kisomitsuru (1-0)   oshidashi	  Sd37w  Amanoumi (0-1)
Sd36e  Toyohikari (1-0)	okuridashi	 Sd35w  Hokutoarashi (0-1)
Sd34e  Koriyama (1-0)	  sukuinage	  Sd33w  Kirinishiki (0-1)
Sd31e  Ryuyo (1-0)		 yoritaoshi	 Sd32w  Masutoo (0-1)
Sd29w  Hakiai (1-0)		tsukiotoshi	Sd30e  Hitachigo (0-1)
Sd28e  Tochitsubasa (1-0)  uwatedashinage Sd27w  Nishikikaze (0-1)
Sd26e  Tokizakura (1-0)	hikiotoshi	 Sd25w  Matsuhara (0-1)
Sd24e  Akinomine (1-0)	 yorikiri	   Sd23w  Wakamifuji (0-1)
Sd21w  Ryuden (1-0)		oshidashi	  Sd22e  Kokei (0-1)
Sd20e  Taika (1-0)		 oshidashi	  Sd19w  Daise (0-1)
Sd18e  Asahisho (1-0)	  hikiotoshi	 Sd17w  Tochifudo (0-1)
Sd16e  Terukaze (1-0)	  yorikiri	   Sd15w  Teruazuma (0-1)
Sd13w  Hokutoiwa (1-0)	 oshidashi	  Sd14e  Wakaryoma (0-1)
Sd12e  Kachimori (1-0)	 yorikiri	   Sd11w  Ginkakuzan (0-1)
Sd10e  Chokozan (1-0)	  tsukiotoshi	Sd9w   Kyokushoten (0-1)
Sd7w   Tochinoyama (1-0)   oshidashi	  Sd8e   Wakayuki (0-1)
Sd6e   Keno (1-0)		  oshidashi	  Sd5w   Daionami (0-1)
Sd3e   Tokio (1-0)		 oshidashi	  Sd3w   Enatsukasa (0-1)
Sd1e   Takanoyama (1-0)	shitatenage	Sd1w   Wakakasuga (0-1)

Makushita

Ms59e  Tochitenko (1-0)	hatakikomi	 Ms59w  Takayasu (0-1)
Ms57w  Hoshizakura (1-0)   oshidashi	  Ms57e  Kurosawa (0-1)
Ms55w  Kimenryu (1-0)	  uwatenage	  Ms55e  Kenju (0-1)
Ms53w  Minaminoshima (1-0) oshidashi	  Ms53e  Satsumanishiki (0-1)
Ms51e  Hikarikaze (1-0)	kotenage	   Ms51w  Terusegawa (0-1)
Ms49w  Aozora (1-0)		uwatedashinage Ms49e  Takaazuma (0-1)
Ms47e  Toshinyama (1-0)	kainahineri	Ms47w  Matsumidori (0-1)
Ms45e  Sasaki (1-0)		yorikiri	   Ms45w  Maeta (0-1)
Ms43w  Shironoryu (1-0)	yorikiri	   Ms43e  Tochihiryu (0-1)
Ms41w  Hananosato (1-0)	uwatenage	  Ms41e  Terashita (0-1)
Ms39e  Takekabuto (1-0)	tsukiotoshi	Ms39w  Tachigami (0-1)
Ms37e  Asanotosa (1-0)	 oshidashi	  Ms36w  Gorikiyama (0-1)
Ms34e  Sadanoumi (1-0)	 uwatedashinage Ms35e  Gagamaru (0-1)
Ms32e  Tenichi (1-0)	   hatakikomi	 Ms32w  Omiryu (0-1)
Ms30e  Takahama (1-0)	  shitatehineri  Ms30w  Kaishoryu (0-1)
Ms28w  Kitazono (1-0)	  oshidashi	  Ms28e  Masunoyama (0-1)
Ms26w  Daitensho (1-0)	 yoritaoshi	 Ms26e  Fujimoto (0-1)
Ms24w  Fukunaga (1-0)	  yorikiri	   Ms24e  Rikiryu (0-1)
Ms22w  Shoketsu (1-0)	  oshidashi	  Ms22e  Sadanofuji (0-1)
Ms20w  Tamarikido (1-0)	yorikiri	   Ms20e  Asahisakari (0-1)
Ms18e  Fukuoka (1-0)	   yorikiri	   Ms18w  Hayasegawa (0-1)
Ms17e  Kotokuni (1-0)	  tsukiotoshi	Ms16e  Jumonji (0-1)
Ms14w  Sokokurai (1-0)	 uwatehineri	Ms14e  Daishoyama (0-1)
Ms12w  Tamaasuka (1-0)	 oshitaoshi	 Ms12e  Sugita (0-1)
Ms10w  Kaonishiki (1-0)	uwatenage	  Ms10e  Tokusegawa (0-1)
Ms8e   Minami (1-0)		yorikiri	   Ms9e   Yoshiazuma (0-1)
Ms6e   Wakatenro (1-0)	 hikiotoshi	 Ms6w   Shotenro (0-1)
Ms4w   Hochiyama (1-0)	 yoritaoshi	 Ms4e   Mori (0-1)
Ms2w   Aran (1-0)		  hatakikomi	 Ms2e   Yamamotoyama (0-1)

[Babaryutaikai 1]

Any news on Daishoyama (former Daishodai)? Looked like his knee buckled and he had to be assisted off the dohyo, but by the time the wheelchair came, he was able to walk to it very gingerly from a seat at the front of the hanamichi. Poor Sokokurai - he appeared very anxious about Daishoyama's injury, but it really didn't look like he caused the damage at all. Since he, Sokokurai, had to return to his seat next to the shinpan, he kept looking over to see what was going on with Daishoyama; the injured rikishi may be kyujo for his next bout.

[Bealzbob 0]

Ms2w   Aran (1-0)		  hatakikomi	 Ms2e   Yamamotoyama (0-1)

Arse !

Henka per chance ?

Edited May 12, 2008 by Bealzbob

[Mark Buckton 1]

Ms2w   Aran (1-0)		  hatakikomi	 Ms2e   Yamamotoyama (0-1)

Arse !

Henka per chance ?

indeed

Common misconception that all hatakikomi or even hikiotoshi are henka. :-D If you haven't seen it why make the judgement?

[kaiguma 0]

Hungarian Masutoo lost

Injured his ankle in training. Told me he can hardly put any weight on it.

Far be it from me to impugn your first-hand knowledge, but... judging from a clear viddy, Masutoo, just blew this one at the edge. He had his man on the run and let his top half get away from the bottom half. Of course that could certainly happen from having one ankle working on half power, or less.

Ms2w   Aran (1-0)		  hatakikomi	 Ms2e   Yamamotoyama (0-1)

Arse !

Henka per chance ?

indeed

Common misconception that all hatakikomi or even hikiotoshi are henka. :-D If you haven't seen it why make the judgement?

Not exactly judgement now, is it? Maybe possibly it was just a hunch? And perchance you are being heavy-handed? :-)

And the sumou: Twasn't a henka, but certainly not "good forward moving sumo." We saw a lot of backpedaling on the way to that pull-down and he never looked confident for even a moment. Of course YMY OTOH looked about as solid as week-old meatloaf, and just as slow too. Stale moldy tiddies and all. (Applauding...)

EDIT: Ms14w Sokokurai (1-0) uwatehineri Ms14e Daishoyama (0-1)

oh, and methinks Sokokurai really wrecked this guy's knee ^

Yikes, the winner looked awfully sorry over it too, but it wasn't his fault I'd say.

Edited May 12, 2008 by kaiguma

[Asashosakari 19,669]

And the sumou: Twasn't a henka, but certainly not "good forward moving sumo." We saw a lot of backpedaling on the way to that pull-down and he never looked confident for even a moment.

I guess I'm to blame due to calling Aran a "poor man's Kokkai" half a year or so ago...he's really stepped up the backpedalling since then, and ironically enough now Kokkai is doing the type of sumo everyone expected Aran to do. :-) Ah well, at least there's still Tochinoshin...

Ah, and I'd like to quibble about calling Shotenro an upcoming talent...he's all of 13 days younger than that grizzled veteran Hochiyama. And darnit, Wakaryoma lost...guess that makes it a wee bit more difficult for him to make a makushita debut as a 16-year-old next basho. Ganbare!

Edited May 12, 2008 by Asashosakari

[Bealzbob 0]

Ms2w   Aran (1-0)		  hatakikomi	 Ms2e   Yamamotoyama (0-1)

Arse !

Henka per chance ?

indeed

Common misconception that all hatakikomi or even hikiotoshi are henka. (Laughing...) If you haven't seen it why make the judgement?

Could've sworn I saw a question mark :-)

[Randomitsuki 2,843]

It's highly recommended to check out the following bouts on toyasuko's Youtube account:

Takanoyama vs. Wakakasuga: a shitatenage that looks like a puroresu move. Splendid!

Kurosawa vs. Hoshizakura: The Great Escape (including the non-happy end)

Rikiryu vs. Fukunaga: Big man fast moving. Little man desperate. Great stuff!

[Asashosakari 19,669]

It's highly recommended to check out the following bouts on toyasuko's Youtube account:

Takanoyama vs. Wakakasuga: a shitatenage that looks like a puroresu move. Splendid!

Kurosawa vs. Hoshizakura: The Great Escape (including the non-happy end)

Rikiryu vs. Fukunaga: Big man fast moving. Little man desperate. Great stuff!

On that note...I'm sure many people have already seen it, but Jigokuzan has decided to add all makushita bouts to his offerings at the info-sumo video section this basho. Truly outstanding work. :-) :-) (Laughing...)

[Bealzbob 0]

Just to expand on my previous post.

I know fine well that not all hatakikomi or hikiotoshi are henka but all henkas are hatakikomi or hikiotoshi so given the size disparity I thought it a reasonable question to ask, and it was a question not a judgement.

[messi19 0]

Just to expand on my previous post.

I know fine well that not all hatakikomi or hikiotoshi are henka but all henkas are hatakikomi or hikiotoshi

Actually I have to disagree with that.

Henka do frequently result in kimarite such as Uwatedashinage or Okuridashi and quite a few others. If I'm not mistaken Kaio had two tottari wins last year with both coming after he henka'ed Kotooshu. In fact any win by a given kimarite can be a result of a henka even though hikiotoshi and hatakikomi are indeed the most frequent kimarite resulting from a henka. I do wonder what's the percentage of uwatedashinage wins following a henka compared to the obvious hikiotoshi/hatakikomi though. Considering that there are a lot less uwatedashinage wins over the course of a honbasho the results may well be surprising.

Edited May 12, 2008 by messi19

[Bealzbob 0]

I thought someone might.

[Kintamayama 45,534]

Any news on Daishoyama (former Daishodai)? Looked like his knee buckled and he had to be assisted off the dohyo, but by the time the wheelchair came, he was able to walk to it very gingerly from a seat at the front of the hanamichi. Poor Sokokurai - he appeared very anxious about Daishoyama's injury, but it really didn't look like he caused the damage at all. Since he, Sokokurai, had to return to his seat next to the shinpan, he kept looking over to see what was going on with Daishoyama; the injured rikishi may be kyujo for his next bout.

He's kyujo all right.

[Mark Buckton 1]

Ms2w   Aran (1-0)		  hatakikomi	 Ms2e   Yamamotoyama (0-1)

Arse !

Henka per chance ?

indeed

Common misconception that all hatakikomi or even hikiotoshi are henka. (Shaking head...) If you haven't seen it why make the judgement?

Could've sworn I saw a question mark (Laughing...)

with yourself Irish I presume - or at least in Ireland speaking relatively close forms of English (in terms of usage / nuance), to a British person (myself), we are likely on the same or a very similar page.

You did use a question mark - after - you had made a judgement and declared Aran an "Arse" and highlighted that point with a "!" First comment a judgement, second a question to support that (blind) judgement the way I read it.

Also this part -

I know fine well that not all hatakikomi or hikiotoshi are henka but all henkas are hatakikomi or hikiotoshi

- you are correct in most cases but henka, as a word most Japanese don't actually know as part of sumo (tested with 15 (3m/12F) on Friday last, and only one older man knew its sumo usage) essentially means 'strange / unusual' and I have heard more than a few kimarite (uchari / various leg sweeps) referred to as henka. Depends who you talk to.

Best not presume on the English usage with ol' kaiguma-san - he'll add yet another new nationality / 1/32nd portion / etc to his background to confuse me :-) :-)

[Sokkenaiyama 81]

I'm no native English speaker, but I had the feeling "Arse!" or "Arses!" could be used as a rhetorical expletive. After all, Yamamotoyama is the man's favorite wrestler and he's probably upset because he lost.

[Bealzbob 0]

You did use a question mark - after - you had made a judgement and declared Aran an "Arse" and highlighted that point with a "!" First comment a judgement, second a question to support that (blind) judgement the way I read it.

Again just a misunderstanding. I was saying "Arse!" as in "Arse! YMY lost!".

[kaiguma 0]

Hungarian Masutoo lost

Injured his ankle in training. Told me he can hardly put any weight on it.

Far be it from me to impugn your first-hand knowledge, but... judging from a clear viddy, Masutoo, just blew this one at the edge. He had his man on the run and let his top half get away from the bottom half. Of course that could certainly happen from having one ankle working on half power, or less.

Sorry to resurrect this, but I thought I should set the record straight. Seeing a Gagamaru bout today on I-S, I realized I had confused the Georgian with Nish's Hungarian pal Masutoo. I did not see the afore-mentioned Day 2 bout featuring injured Masutoo. So I apologize to Nishinoshima, Masutoo, and Gagamaru. (I am not worthy...)

Cheers.

Edited May 13, 2008 by kaiguma