Question: has it ever happened

[HenryK 38]

.... that all sanyaku ranked fighters (incl. Y, O) were KK at the end of a tournament? It seems theoretically possible but unlikley -- most sanysaku would have to be in the 8-7 to 10-5 range.

All but one sanyaku making KK seems to occur occasionally.

P.S.: couldn't figure out how to search for this in the database.

Edited February 26, 2008 by HenryK

[higginbotham 0]

Yes, it has. Aki 1998, for example.

EDIT: but then 2 top Maegashira finished 3-12

Edited February 26, 2008 by higginbotham

[HenryK 38]

Yes, it has. Aki 1998, for example.

EDIT: but then 2 top Maegashira finished 3-12

Thanks.

[ryafuji 760]

Here's the query.

[HenryK 38]

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Thanks. Hence it has happened only twice in the modern era -- funnily both times were in 1998.

[rhino 0]

It's not too surprising that 1998 is the only modern year that this happened, since at the time there were unusually huge numbers of heya-mates in sanyaku.

In Aki you had Takanohana, Wakanohana, Takanonami and Takatoriki all Futagoyama; and Musashimaru, Dejima and Musoyama all Musashigawa.

In Hatsu there are not so many, but the presence of Taktoriki, Akinoshima and Dejima (Futagoyama, Futagoyama and Musashigawa respectively) in the meatgrinder would still mean that the sanyaku got handed lower-ranked opposition than you would normally expect.

Nowadays there is no Futagoyama-style stable filling up the top of the banzuke, so most of the sanyaku will fight each other, and this is less likely to happen.

Interesting question though!

[Washuyama 587]

Nowadays there is no Futagoyama-style stable filling up the top of the banzuke, so most of the sanyaku will fight each other, and this is less likely to happen.

Closest thing now are the three from Sadogatake.

[rhino 0]

Nowadays there is no Futagoyama-style stable filling up the top of the banzuke, so most of the sanyaku will fight each other, and this is less likely to happen.

Closest thing now are the three from Sadogatake.

True. Well, here are the numbers for today vs our two "winning" banzuke:

Today:

10 sanyaku = 45 potential internal fights

Subtract 3 for the Sadogatake boys = 42

Aki 98:

9 sanyaku = 36 potential internal fights

Subtract 6 for Futagoyama, 3 for Musashigawa = 27

Hatsu 98:

9 sanyaku = 36 potential internals

Subtract 3 for Futagoyama, 1 for Musashigawa = 32

Seems like a reasonably big difference but maybe more related to the number of sanyaku than heya pairings.

[Asashosakari 16,843]

It's not too surprising that 1998 is the only modern year that this happened

I'm inclined to count Nagoya 1966, Hatsu 1970, and Natsu 1994, too.

Edited February 27, 2008 by Asashosakari