Doitsuyama 1,192 Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) The two yokozuna stay at one loss as both won against the ozeki pair of Kotomitsuki and Kaio as Kotomitsuki gave Asashoryu a good bout but just can't beat the senior yokozuna. Now it's certain that the yusho will be decided on senshuraku between the two yokozuna. Well, Kakuryu is staying one win behind the two yokozuna as he beat Tokitenku with good sumo, but the yusho chances of Kakuryu are quite theoretical as he must hope for a yokozuna loss tomorrow, then win his own two remaining bouts and then beat one or both yokozuna in a playoff. At least it's very likely that he will get his first career sansho. Kyokutenho recovered from the two losses as he beat Kisenosato convincingly to reach double digits. Takekaze also arrived at ten wins with a win against kadoban ozeki Kotooshu who still can drop to sekiwake if he loses his remaining two bouts against Kakuryu tomorrow and Kaio on senshuraku. Sekiwake Ama and komusubi Kotoshogiku got the kachi-koshi today with wins over Miyabiyama and Goeido while sekiwake Aminishiki already is make-koshi, not looking good against already make-koshi Toyonoshima. It seems likely that Kotoshogiku will be back at sekiwake in the next basho with Kisenosato and one of Aminishiki, Tokitenku, Asasekiryu, Takekaze or Kakuryu at komusubi. Tokitenku gave away his good position with the loss to Kakuryu and needs to win out just to get the kachi-koshi. Baruto had another ugly loss, this time against lowly Kakizoe, and the big Estonian fell to make-koshi, the only one of the 21 foreign sekitori so far, while 25 of 49 Japanese sekitori are make-koshi already. Homasho is looking even worse than Baruto, clearly losing to Tamanoshima and at ten losses. All low makuuchi rikishi at 6-6 won today, but Tosanoumi fell to his tenth loss, joining Shimootori and Tamanoshima on the way to juryo. Kakizoe might stay after all as he won his second straight and three out of the last four, and one more win will likely be enough for him to stay. The 20 years old Georgian shin-sekitori Tochinoshin is the sole juyro leader as he beat Kotokasuga while Kitazakura lost to pursuer Sakaizawa. Hakuba and Tamawashi were the only other winning rikishi among the pursuers as Hoshihikari lost his third straight and Kitataikiis even at four straight losses. Otsukasa is at four straight wins now and kachi-koshi - he might still get a promotion to makuuchi. Sakaizawa is the first to get enough wins for the makuuchi promotion, and even with two losses it's pretty certain that he'll join his college-mate Ichihara in makuuchi next basho (unless Ichihara loses his last two bouts and drops to juryo). Day 13 Juryo J14e Wakakoyu (6-7) oshidashi Ms2e Sagatsukasa (4-3) J13e Kirinowaka (5-8) okuridashi Ms3w Hokutokuni (5-2) J11w Kimurayama (6-7) oshidashi Ms2w Bushuyama (4-3) J9e Katayama (4-9) yorikiri J10w Asofuji (4-9) J8w Hakuba (9-4) uwatehineri J11e Kitataiki (8-5) J12e Satoyama (4-9) oshidashi J6w Toyozakura (6-7) J13w Tamawashi (9-4) oshidashi J5w Hoshihikari (8-5) J4w Otsukasa (8-5) yoritaoshi J9w Shirononami (8-5) J12w Tochinoshin (10-3) yorikiri J4e Kotokasuga (7-6) J10e Masatsukasa (7-6) yorikiri J3w Hakurozan (6-7) J3e Sakaizawa (9-4) shitatenage J8e Kitazakura (9-4) J5e Hochiyama (7-6) yoritaoshi J2w Ryuo (7-6) J7e Mokonami (7-6) yorikiri J2e Chiyohakuho (4-9) J1w Koryu (6-7) oshidashi J7w Shunketsu (4-9) J6e Ushiomaru (4-9) tsukiotoshi J1e Kasuganishiki (3-10) Makuuchi M15e Tochiozan (7-6) yorikiri M13e Iwakiyama (8-5) M16w Kaiho (7-6) sukuinage M11w Kasugao (8-5) M9e Kokkai (8-5) yorikiri M10e Wakanoho (8-5) M16e Ichihara (7-6) hatakikomi M8w Toyohibiki (4-9) M13w Tamanoshima (3-10) oshidashi M7w Homasho (3-10) M15w Yoshikaze (7-6) hikiotoshi M6w Hokutoriki (6-7) M11e Kakizoe (4-9) hikiotoshi M6e Baruto (5-8) M14e Takamisakari (7-6) oshidashi M5w Tamakasuga (3-10) M5e Roho (6-7) oshidashi M12w Tosanoumi (3-10) M4w Asasekiryu (9-4) hikiotoshi M12e Futeno (8-5) M9w Wakakirin (4-9) tsukiotoshi M3w Tochinonada (5-8) M8e Kakuryu (11-2) yorikiri M1w Tokitenku (6-7) M10w Kyokutenho (10-3) yorikiri M1e Kisenosato (8-5) M4e Wakanosato (5-8) shitatenage K1w Dejima (2-11) K1e Kotoshogiku (8-3-2) sukuinage M3e Goeido (5-8) S1w Ama (8-5) okuridashi M2w Miyabiyama (5-8) M2e Toyonoshima (5-8) okuridashi S1e Aminishiki (5-8) M7e Takekaze (10-3) hikiotoshi O2w Kotooshu (7-6) Y1w Asashoryu (12-1) shitatenage O1w Kotomitsuki (7-6) Y1e Hakuho (12-1) yorikiri O2e Kaio (8-5) Day 14 Juryo J13e Kirinowaka (5-8) Ms4e Tosayutaka (5-1) J14e Wakakoyu (6-7) J10w Asofuji (4-9) J8e Kitazakura (9-4) J12e Satoyama (4-9) J7e Mokonami (7-6) J11e Kitataiki (8-5) J6e Ushiomaru (4-9) J11w Kimurayama (6-7) J13w Tamawashi (9-4) J6w Toyozakura (6-7) J5e Hochiyama (7-6) J10e Masatsukasa (7-6) J12w Tochinoshin (10-3) J4w Otsukasa (8-5) J3e Sakaizawa (9-4) J8w Hakuba (9-4) J4e Kotokasuga (7-6) J3w Hakurozan (6-7) J2e Chiyohakuho (4-9) J7w Shunketsu (4-9) J9w Shirononami (8-5) J2w Ryuo (7-6) J1e Kasuganishiki (3-10) J9e Katayama (4-9) J5w Hoshihikari (8-5) J1w Koryu (6-7) Makuuchi M11e Kakizoe (4-9) M13w Tamanoshima (3-10) M13e Iwakiyama (8-5) M11w Kasugao (8-5) M10e Wakanoho (8-5) M12e Futeno (8-5) M16w Kaiho (7-6) M10w Kyokutenho (10-3) M9e Kokkai (8-5) M15w Yoshikaze (7-6) M15e Tochiozan (7-6) M9w Wakakirin (4-9) M6e Baruto (5-8) M14e Takamisakari (7-6) M16e Ichihara (7-6) M6w Hokutoriki (6-7) M12w Tosanoumi (3-10) M5w Tamakasuga (3-10) M4e Wakanosato (5-8) M7w Homasho (3-10) M3e Goeido (5-8) M5e Roho (6-7) M8w Toyohibiki (4-9) M3w Tochinonada (5-8) M2w Miyabiyama (5-8) M1w Tokitenku (6-7) K1e Kotoshogiku (8-3-2) M7e Takekaze (10-3) M2e Toyonoshima (5-8) K1w Dejima (2-11) S1e Aminishiki (5-8) M1e Kisenosato (8-5) M4w Asasekiryu (9-4) S1w Ama (8-5) M8e Kakuryu (11-2) O2w Kotooshu (7-6) Y1e Hakuho (12-1) O1w Kotomitsuki (7-6) O2e Kaio (8-5) Y1w Asashoryu (12-1) Edited January 25, 2008 by Doitsuyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peterao 3 Posted January 25, 2008 The 20 years old Georgian shin-deshi Tochinoshin is the sole juyro leader (Dribbling...) Still holding out hope for Kitazakura. I'll root for any rikishi older than ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealzbob 0 Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) I think the lucky Asasekiryu is going to benefit from some fortuitous banzuke luck as only Kisenosato above him in maegashira is currently in a winning position with 2 sanyaku places likely up for grabs. He probably can't believe his luck that 6 of the 7 M's above him are heading for MK with only 'tenku having any hope of avoiding it if he wins out. So it looks like Asa' is in pole position to share komusubi with Kise' for Haru. I have Kakuryu @ M1e behind them at the mo' with Takekaze @ M1w (although that one will likely change in the last 2 days). At the mo' there also looks to be 5 places up for grabs from makushita to juryo if the current juryo form continues... Asofuji, Kirinowaka, Satoyama, Tochinohana(intai) & Wakakoyu although they can all escape except 'hana.... Edited January 25, 2008 by Bealzbob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sashimaru 10 Posted January 25, 2008 ...Well, Kakuryu is staying one win behind the two yokozuna as he beat Tokitenku with good sumo, but the yusho chances of Kakuryu are quite theoretical as he must hope for a yokozuna loss tomorrow, then win his own two remaining bouts and then beat one or both yokozuna in a playoff. At least it's very likely that he will get his first career sansho ... I used to dislike Kakuryu's sumo. But now he has completely changed. He is really fun to watch. Great performance, not only resultwise but most of all qualitywise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,543 Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) At the mo' there also looks to be 5 places up for grabs from makushita to juryo if the current juryo form continues... Funny statement on the day that the juryo guys finally stopped their losing ways against makushita opponents. (Dribbling...) Edited January 25, 2008 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealzbob 0 Posted January 25, 2008 ..and yet the juryo all still have losing records and their makushita opponents still have winning records (Dribbling...) In the shake-up they could all swap places (Dohyo-iri...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted January 25, 2008 I used to dislike Kakuryu's sumo. But now he has completely changed. He is really fun to watch. Great performance, not only resultwise but most of all qualitywise. Didn't I always tell you in the german chat that he will learn and go his way (Dohyo-iri...) (Dribbling...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealzbob 0 Posted January 25, 2008 I'm curious as to why the geeku would continue on, despite getting KK and securing promotion to sekiwake on the back of Aminishiki's MK? I don't know the extent of any injury so I'm only assuming, but I'd have thought the extra 2 days rest + the prospect of not facing any high ranked or on form rikishi on days 14 & 15 (and therefore not risking further injury) would outweigh any financial benefit. I would prefer to be a fully fit and ready sekiwake for Haru. Anyone ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 815 Posted January 25, 2008 I'm curious as to why the geeku would continue on, despite getting KK and securing promotion to sekiwake on the back of Aminishiki's MK?I don't know the extent of any injury so I'm only assuming, but I'd have thought the extra 2 days rest + the prospect of not facing any high ranked or on form rikishi on days 14 & 15 (and therefore not risking further injury) would outweigh any financial benefit. I would prefer to be a fully fit and ready sekiwake for Haru. Anyone ? Surely it would be considered bad form to drop out again. If he's fit enough to return he should see it through to the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randomitsuki 2,831 Posted January 25, 2008 Among active rikishi, the Asashoryu-Kotomitsuki pairing is now the one with the highest number of wins for one of the two rikishi. Asashoryu's 31 have now overtaken the 30 wins of Kaio against Tosanoumi. In the head-to-head win record list, Asashoryu (vs. Kotomitsuki) is now tied for 17th place ever. Record holder is still Kotonoshiki who defeated Akinoshima no less than 40 times! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Washuyama 641 Posted January 26, 2008 (edited) Among active rikishi, the Asashoryu-Kotomitsuki pairing is now the one with the highest number of wins for one of the two rikishi. Asashoryu's 31 have now overtaken the 30 wins of Kaio against Tosanoumi. In the head-to-head win record list, Asashoryu (vs. Kotomitsuki) is now tied for 17th place ever. Record holder is still Kotonoshiki who defeated Akinoshima no less than 40 times! That surprises me... I would've guessed that Chiyonofuji with all his wins or Kitanoumi with his long yokozuna tenure to hold this record. Cool trivia! (Sign of approval...) EDIT: Typo.. Edited January 26, 2008 by Washuyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sashimaru 10 Posted January 26, 2008 I used to dislike Kakuryu's sumo. But now he has completely changed. He is really fun to watch. Great performance, not only resultwise but most of all qualitywise. Didn't I always tell you in the german chat that he will learn and go his way ;-) (Whistling...) Yes, you did. (I am not worthy...) And I am very happy you were right. (Sign of approval...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randomitsuki 2,831 Posted January 26, 2008 Among active rikishi, the Asashoryu-Kotomitsuki pairing is now the one with the highest number of wins for one of the two rikishi. Asashoryu's 31 have now overtaken the 30 wins of Kaio against Tosanoumi. In the head-to-head win record list, Asashoryu (vs. Kotomitsuki) is now tied for 17th place ever. Record holder is still Kotonoshiki who defeated Akinoshima no less than 40 times! That surprises me... I would've guessed that Chiyonofuji with all his wins or Kitanoumi with his long yokozuna tenure to hold this record. Cool trivia! (Sign of approval...) Yep, I was also surprised to see this. In fact, the highest number of Chiyonofuji wins is 37 against Ozutsu (4th place overall), followed by 35 wins gainst Dewanohana (7th overall). Kitanoumi's record is 36 wins against Takanohana (6th overall). Apart from Kotonishiki's 40-win mark there are two other rikishi who have better record numbers than Chiyonofuji and Kitanoumi. These are Kitanofuji (39 wins against Kiyokuni) and Musashimaru (38 wins against Takanonami). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sashimaru 10 Posted January 26, 2008 ... Musashimaru (38 wins against Takanonami). Musashimaru fought 60 times against Takanonami. Is this also a record number of matches between two rikishi? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randomitsuki 2,831 Posted January 26, 2008 (edited) ... Musashimaru (38 wins against Takanonami). Musashimaru fought 60 times against Takanonami. Is this also a record number of matches between two rikishi? Yes, and by far. Searching through the database I found only four pairings with 50 or more actual bouts (including kettei-sen, excluding fusen). 1. Musashimaru-Takanonami 58 bouts (37-21) 2. Kitanofuji - Kiyokuni 54 bouts (39-15) 3. Takanonami-Kaio 52 bouts (28-24) 4. Kitanofuji-Kotozakura 50 bouts (29-21) Edited January 26, 2008 by Randomitsuki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites