shumitto 418 Posted June 3, 2016 which heya is that pictured in the article? I think it is Chiganoura-beya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,501 Posted June 3, 2016 Ha ha. I only just read Mark's "Hang up the mawashi already, Hakuho, you're done" article. Suppose I read it in a rather different light, given Hak's follow up zensho yusho tournament. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted June 4, 2016 Ha ha. I only just read Mark's "Hang up the mawashi already, Hakuho, you're done" article. Suppose I read it in a rather different light, given Hak's follow up zensho yusho tournament. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,842 Posted June 4, 2016 Hakuho's new motivation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,143 Posted June 23, 2016 Part 31 0f the excellent sumo ABC series. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,143 Posted June 27, 2016 Nagoya talk 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,143 Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) Mark ...... Edited July 1, 2016 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,929 Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) People like him always forget one thing: Is there any way for me (in germany) to a) watch the bouts live and b) watch bouts of past bashos, without me or someone else having to resort to not perfectly legal measures? I don't think so. I would like to pay a fair(!!!) amount for this privilege, but... So it's youtube. Thank you Kintamayama-sama! Edited July 1, 2016 by Ogami Ittō 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,970 Posted July 1, 2016 So.....Mr. Buckton claims that the disappearance of the free NSK feed is directly connected to Araibira's youtube service. I'm far too drunk to comment on that. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shumitto 418 Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) You might disagree with the content, but please appreciate the writing style. "News being news in the modern era" "Increasingly, however, the numbers of international media outlets, professional photographers and journalists reaching out for help in gaining access to morning practice or one of the six annual tournaments has also been increasing." Edited July 1, 2016 by shumitto 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,874 Posted July 1, 2016 It has been several years since we have had to suffer thru one of Mark's bloviations about his copyright obsession. Some things never change. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,143 Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) As of today, a sumo fan not living in Japan has no way at all of watching sumo live, or even recorded for that matter, even if he is willing to pay exorbitant prices. As of today, sumo is unavailable. Period. If that is what the Kyokai wanted, they got it. It has nothing whatsoever to do with YouTube. If anything, the YouTube channels have brought in thousands of new sumo fans that in turn fill the Kokugikan seats. I can not understand the Kyokai's logic behind this. Maybe someone can explain it to me someday. Edited July 2, 2016 by Kintamayama 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryoshishokunin 288 Posted July 1, 2016 Even if you live in Japan it's not trivial to get the sumo--unless you have an actual TV handy. I don't. I find this mindboggling. Plenty of Japanese people are on the train or at their desks when sumo is on. I also agree with Kintamayama regarding overseas fans watching on YouTube: if you *literally cannot* give the Kyokai money to watch the show legally, they aren't losing money due to YouTube. QED. Bah. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hamcornheinz 839 Posted July 2, 2016 if anything, they should reimburse Kinta or provide him with hq video.... for him helping to spread sumo... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egparis18 622 Posted July 2, 2016 You might disagree with the content, but please appreciate the writing style. "News being news in the modern era" "Increasingly, however, the numbers of international media outlets, professional photographers and journalists reaching out for help in gaining access to morning practice or one of the six annual tournaments has also been increasing." And the mastery of vocabulary 'This phenomena phenomenon — coupled with the huge numbers of non-Japanese now seen each day at the honbasho — has, arguably seen global interest and awareness of all things sumo increase as a result.' 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,344 Posted July 2, 2016 You might disagree with the content, but please appreciate the writing style. "Increasingly, however, the numbers of international media outlets, professional photographers and journalists reaching out for help in gaining access to morning practice or one of the six annual tournaments has also been increasing." I suppose he's saying that both the first and the second derivative are greater than zero. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egparis18 622 Posted July 3, 2016 You might disagree with the content, but please appreciate the writing style. "Increasingly, however, the numbers of international media outlets, professional photographers and journalists reaching out for help in gaining access to morning practice or one of the six annual tournaments has also been increasing." I suppose he's saying that both the first and the second derivative are greater than zero. His verb should be conjugated in the plural, have, not has. Perhaps he means the increasing increase is exponential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishinoyama 595 Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) QUOTE "And, on my own numerous visits to 15-20 stables in and around Tokyo". I am surprised he didn't name drop every one of those 15 to 20 stables. QUOTE "As a result, he was shut down on YouTube but the “by the fans for the fans” aspect of uploads had changed forever. Money was being made by a person with no right to make money in the first place. Others took note. Most importantly, those behind the management of sumo broadcasts noticed, put their heads together and not long after the grainy lifeline of fans around Japan and the world unable to get to tourneys was gone." I wonder who it was that told them about the uploads on youtube? I bet it was someone who looks after their own self interests even if in the end, it hurts the sport of sumo. Edited July 3, 2016 by Kishinoyama 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,344 Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) Didn't the NSK stream already go behind the paywall while araibira was still active? Buckton's timeline of events (much like his reasoning) seems rather off. Edited July 3, 2016 by Asashosakari 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CT3* 331 Posted July 5, 2016 I long ago realized it necessary to take Eric Blair's...I mean Mark Buckton's, commentary with a grain of salt... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egparis18 622 Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) I long ago realized it necessary to take Eric Blair's...I mean Mark Buckton's, commentary with a grain of salt... George Orwell ? Edited July 5, 2016 by egparis18 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CT3* 331 Posted July 5, 2016 Its kind of a long story... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,143 Posted July 8, 2016 Sumo ABC part 32- Ura 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tarako 3 Posted July 26, 2016 This article was the result of a thread on the forum started by "skepticalsports" in May. I found both the discussion between the author and people on the forum and the resulting article really interesting: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-sumo-matchup-centuries-in-the-making/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Washuyama 641 Posted July 26, 2016 This article was the result of a thread on the forum started by "skepticalsports" in May. I found both the discussion between the author and people on the forum and the resulting article really interesting: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-sumo-matchup-centuries-in-the-making/ Found it a very well written and informative article up to I read "According to MB." At that point, I semi-doubted it's seriousness... If that portion were removed, I would consider it a great article. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites