Naganoyama 5,624 Posted September 19, 2007 After day 11, September 2007, Makuuchi division scores are: (Rikishi have fought 11 bouts except as otherwise stated) Score Rikishi Shikona 11-0 0 - 10-1 1 Goeido 9-2 1 Hakuho 8-3 7 Chiyotaikai, Aminishiki, Ama, Takekaze, Kasugao, Kyokutenho, Kakizoe 7-4 7 Kotooshu, Kotomitsuki, Kotoshogiku, Toyonoshima, Miyabiyama, Tochiozan, Yoshikaze 6-5 3 Toyohibiki, Futeno, Hakurozan 5-6 8 Asasekiryu, Homasho, Dejima, Tamanoshima, Tosanoumi, Takamisakari, Tamakasuga, Kokkai 4-7 7 Kisenosato, Tokitenku, Kakuryu, Wakanosato, Roho, Iwakiyama, Kasuganishiki 3-8 2 Tokitsuumi, Ryuo 2-9 4 Tochinonada, Hokutoriki, Kaiho, Kitazakura 1-10 1 Kaio(1-5-5) 0-11 1 Asashoryu(0-0-11) After day 11, September 2007, Juryo division scores are: (Rikishi have fought 11 bouts except as otherwise stated) Score Rikishi Shikona 11-0 1 Baruto 10-1 0 - 9-2 0 - 8-3 0 - 7-4 6 Wakanoho, Tochinohana, Chiyohakuho, Shimootori, Kotokasuga, Katayama 6-5 8 Wakakirin, Ushiomaru, Masatsukasa, Kitataiki, Hoshihikari, Kyokunankai, Jumonji, Asofuji 5-6 4 Toyozakura, Hakuba, Satoyama, Shirononami 4-7 6 Hochiyama, Otsukasa, Koryu, Mokonami, Sakaizawa, Ryuho 3-8 2 Shunketsu, Tamarikido 2-9 0 - 1-10 0 - 0-11 1 Daimanazuru(0-4-7) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tikozan 4 Posted September 19, 2007 Goeido in the lead, what a surprise. B-) But from tomorrow, the basho will be much difficult for him. Against Ama we will see how strong he is in real. Let's see and good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peterao 3 Posted September 19, 2007 Who's gonna volunteer to man the "Goeido Road to 100 Yusho Update" news desk? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotonosato 1 Posted September 19, 2007 Naganoyama, Thanks for posting these. This is actually the first time I've looked at them. Just curious... Why do you state that all rikishi have fought 11 bouts "unless otherwise stated"? Is it ever the case that they haven't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faustonowaka 89 Posted September 19, 2007 (edited) Naganoyama,Thanks for posting these. This is actually the first time I've looked at them. Just curious... Why do you state that all rikishi have fought 11 bouts "unless otherwise stated"? Is it ever the case that they haven't? When a rikishi drops out of the tournament because of an injury an comes back he will have fought less bouts than the others. In lower divisions not all rikishi fight on the same day, so there it is important to compare the number of bouts they have actually fought. Edited September 19, 2007 by Faustonowaka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuriyama Ren 1 Posted September 19, 2007 Just curious... Why do you state that all rikishi have fought 11 bouts "unless otherwise stated"? Is it ever the case that they haven't? Umm.. Asashoryu hasn't fought a single bout this basho but he is listed at 0-11. The score in the brackets: Asashoryu(0-0-11) shows the actual record. Same for Kaio and Daimanazuru. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotonosato 1 Posted September 19, 2007 I get it. "Fought" is the key word here. I guess my next question would be why Asashoryu, Kaio, and rikishi with losing records are on a "leader" board? You don't have to answer this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuriyama Ren 1 Posted September 19, 2007 There has been a case back in 73, when Wajima went kyujo on day 14 and still ended up getting yusho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sasanishiki 57 Posted September 19, 2007 There has been a case back in 73, when Wajima went kyujo on day 14 and still ended up getting yusho. If Baruto wins one more tomorrow he could sit out the final 3 days and still win the juryo yusho! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealzbob 0 Posted September 19, 2007 There has been a case back in 73, when Wajima went kyujo on day 14 and still ended up getting yusho. If Baruto wins one more tomorrow he could sit out the final 3 days and still win the juryo yusho! As a Baruto fan, and knowing his injury trouble, I've been wondering for a while now if that is exactly what he will do. Probably not, but if he picks up an unnecessary injury from day 13 onwards he'd feel very annoyed I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peterao 3 Posted September 19, 2007 There has been a case back in 73, when Wajima went kyujo on day 14 and still ended up getting yusho. If Baruto wins one more tomorrow he could sit out the final 3 days and still win the juryo yusho! As a Baruto fan, and knowing his injury trouble, I've been wondering for a while now if that is exactly what he will do. Probably not, but if he picks up an unnecessary injury from day 13 onwards he'd feel very annoyed I think. Unless you're at least a sekiwake, no win is ever "unnecessary". I assume that Baruto wants to fight in Makunouchi next basho, and the only sure way to do that from Juryo 9 is to zensho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealzbob 0 Posted September 20, 2007 Not strictly true. Baruto himself went from J11 to makuuchi with 14 wins in May of this year. Tokitenku went from J10 to makuuchi with only 12 wins, and this query shows others who have made the jump with less than zensho fr4om J9 and below. I also think the banzuke makers will know that Baruto is not a juryo wrestler and if such a thing as intentionally favourable banzuke-luck exists, he will get it and be in makuuchi come November. Just my opinion of course :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites