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By the way I found a bug in Makuuchi matrix. After day 1 Kasugao has Juryo Lose while he didn't fight Juryo yet. I believe planned Juryo battle (black dot) appears to be counted as Lose on Matrix. Shotenro (who is matched for Day2 for Kasugao) has already Other Win instead...

Black dot script needs to be fixed a little...

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By the way I found a bug in Makuuchi matrix. After day 1 Kasugao has Juryo Lose while he didn't fight Juryo yet. I believe planned Juryo battle (black dot) appears to be counted as Lose on Matrix. Shotenro (who is matched for Day2 for Kasugao) has already Other Win instead...

Black dot script needs to be fixed a little...

Thanks, fixed.

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How about changing column number to rank in bout matrix? Don't you think it will be easier to match dots with actual opponents, especially in the middle of table?

Well, I think it already helps a lot to have that hint appearing if you hover a bit over a dot.

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How about changing column number to rank in bout matrix? Don't you think it will be easier to match dots with actual opponents, especially in the middle of table?

Well, I think it already helps a lot to have that hint appearing if you hover a bit over a dot.

Agree, but they are not showing up on printed (or exported) version ;)

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Juryo playoff bouts from last basho are missing in database.

Edited by VictorDiVarca

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This got me wondering who was the last highest ranked Japanese rikishi older than Kaio now. I set the following rule for that task: The rikishi must be highest ranked Japanese (of course) and the last day of appearance is counting (usually senshuraku, but no-shows and fusenpai doesn't count).

Kaio is the oldest in more than 78 years and I found only three rikishi older than Kaio since 1909 with a surprising leader:

1) Onosato, 39 years 6 months in 1931.10 (Ozeki like Kaio)

2) Tachiyama, 39 years 5 months in 1917.01 (this guy had amazingly few losses even at advanced age)

3) Hitachiyama, 39 years 0 months in 1913.01

4) Kaio, 37 years 8 months in 2010.03 (if he appears on day 11 or later)

5) Haguroyama, 37 years 7 months in 1952.05

6) Minanogawa, 37 years 6 months in 1941.05

7) Nishinoumi, 36 years 6 months in 1927.05

8) Yoshibayama, 36 years 3 months in 1956.05

Those links remind me again of a suggestion I wanted to make some time ago (sorry if it had been discussed somewhere already): do you think it would be possible to include the days of death of deceased rikishi? I guess it wouldn't be too much work to find them out at least for the former top dogs, though I don't know if there would be any general interest in that apart from the curiosity of one mere historian...

Thanks! (In love...)

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I was updating my lists of yusho winners and noticed the database has not credited the losers of the 2009 Kyushu Juryo playoff (Koryu & Tokusegawa) with a "D" yusho-doten.

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The SR has been off since all this mess started.

It's on for me so maybe some problems at your end?

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The SR has been off since all this mess started.

It's just sumoreference.com which isn't working correctly at the moment. www.sumoreference.com is doing ok.

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The SR has been off since all this mess started.

It's just sumoreference.com which isn't working correctly at the moment. www.sumoreference.com is doing ok.

We got a new cable modem and the IP address changed. I haven't had a chance to change the DNS A record yet so only the URLs updated by dynamic DNS are working now.

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We're having intermittent network problems that our host is working to correct ...

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The sumo reference is now back on line (please use www.sumoreference.com if you are linking to the site). Perhaps now we need to add a yaocho column to the torikumi?!?

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Thanks to Nishinoshima there are new additions to the lower division bouts between 1991 and 1997. I have added the kimarite for 1993.05, 1996.07 and 1997.09 which had the bouts without kimarite. Lower division bouts were added for 1991.09, 1991.11, 1992.03, 1992.11, 1993.01, 1993.03, 1993.07, 1993.09, 1994.01, 1994.07, 1995.09, 1995.11 and 1996.01, all with kimarite except 1993.03 and 1993.09.

That was a pretty big step to getting the lower division bouts since 1991 complete as only four basho are missing now (1992.01, 1992.07, 1992.09 and 1995.01). And since the kimarite for lower division bouts were published in the Sumo magazine since Nagoya 1991 (maybe Natsu 1991, but not before), there are six basho remaining to get the kimarite complete (lest there is a source unknown to me for lower division kimarite before 1991).

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That was a pretty big step to getting the lower division bouts since 1991 complete as only four basho are missing now (1992.01, 1992.07, 1992.09 and 1995.01). And since the kimarite for lower division bouts were published in the Sumo magazine since Nagoya 1991 (maybe Natsu 1991, but not before), there are six basho remaining to get the kimarite complete (lest there is a source unknown to me for lower division kimarite before 1991).

I got copies for all missing Heisei lower division bouts and kimarite from a helpful person in Tokyo (not on the Sumoforum as far as I know) and they are all entered in Sumo Reference, so I am happy to state that a big block is complete now.

I also entered lower division bouts for quite a few basho before 1988, actually all I had available (about 35 basho or so). You can see in the database statistics which parts are filled.

Edited by Doitsuyama

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Since the (non)similar shikona discussion is going on at the other thread: I noticed that the English and Japanese versions handle shikona changes differently, depending on the question if the transcription also changed. That's pretty cool. Respekt und so...

And since I found this thread again: You never responded to this suggestion of mine. Is it so dumb?

Deutscher Berg: Let me first express my deepest gratitude for the invaluable site. Without it, the sumo community would lack its most important resource.

For me, one small but particularly useful gem is the tool tip style mouseover info for every rikishi.

Just now I happen to wonder: Would it be hard to implement (without being a strain for performance) something similar for the links to the individual basho/banzuke sheets?

I was thinking about yusho and sansho info, something along the line of "Y: Asashoryu (25), S: Baruto (1), K: Kisenosato (9), G: -"

I would enjoy that, because it would ease the orientation in the timeline when you are viewing lists of hon-basho.

Thanks for considering.

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Just now I happen to wonder: Would it be hard to implement (without being a strain for performance) something similar for the links to the individual basho/banzuke sheets?

I was thinking about yusho and sansho info, something along the line of "Y: Asashoryu (25), S: Baruto (1), K: Kisenosato (9), G: -"

I would enjoy that, because it would ease the orientation in the timeline when you are viewing lists of hon-basho.

I don't feel like programming that extra bit as it would probably slow page generation slightly for not too much extra information and tie my time. On rikishi detail pages this might be useful, but I'd be interested only when a rikishi was close to the yusho and I wanted to know who got it.

Of course there always are the extensive yusho and sansho lists on the top menu of each page, so the info is only one click away.

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The death dates of many rikishi are listed in the Database but there are many more within reach that are not. Some are on wikipedia and other sources. It's very good as it is and I don't wanna give you more work than you have with this excellent source but if you are intend on updating these info I volunteer to help. I can type everything in excel and send you. Thank you anyway.

Edited by shumitto

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The death dates of many rikishi are listed in the Database but there are many more within reach that are not. Some are on wikipedia and other sources. It's very good as it is and I don't wanna give you more work than you have with this excellent source but if you are intend on updating these info I volunteer to help. I can type everything in excel and send you. Thank you anyway.

Oh, that would be great. Two columns would be enough, the rikishi-ID (its a whole lot better than the shikona of course) and the date.

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Oh, that would be great. Two columns would be enough, the rikishi-ID (its a whole lot better than the shikona of course) and the date.

Ok then. As soon I have a reasonable ammount of data I will send you in the dd/mm/yyyy date format if that is good for you.

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Oh, that would be great. Two columns would be enough, the rikishi-ID (its a whole lot better than the shikona of course) and the date.

Ok then. As soon I have a reasonable ammount of data I will send you in the dd/mm/yyyy date format if that is good for you.

Well, Excel has its own date format (the text format is just that then, a cell format), using that would be just fine. But feel free to use your own style, I can't imagine that it would be impossible to deal with.

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I have a good list of DD of rikishi but I've realized the DB is much more thorough than I thought and with the need to click the rikishi one by one to find where the gaps are it's been taking a bit long but soon I will manage to send something.

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I have a good list of DD of rikishi but I've realized the DB is much more thorough than I thought and with the need to click the rikishi one by one to find where the gaps are it's been taking a bit long but soon I will manage to send something.

Sorry for not replying faster but I was on a nice internet-less vacation. Just send the whole list, I can manage easily myself to find the missing dates. If you don't have the rikishi-ID I would like to have something to make an easy ID of the rikishi though (like last shikona plus birth date).

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