Doitsuyama 1,161 Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Akinomaki said: I forgot that Asahifuji even graduated - he reentered Kindai while being active - he was officially in the sumo club there https://kindaipicks.com/article/002123 He was 20 when he joined ozumo and was close to two years member of the club, shouldn't that be enough then to have it on his page, like here: https://sumo-guide.com/kinki-university#i-24 Sure, that's enough, so I added it now. It's pretty similar to Miyabiyama after all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaitetsu 218 Posted January 10 The JSA lists Shinannoumi's shikona first name as Momotaro but the DB has it as Shoto. And I think there were photos of him holding a paper with "Shonannoumi Momotaro" on it after promotion to juryo, didnt he change his first name shikona? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,044 Posted January 10 20 minutes ago, Kaitetsu said: The JSA lists Shinannoumi's shikona first name as Momotaro but the DB has it as Shoto. And I think there were photos of him holding a paper with "Shonannoumi Momotaro" on it after promotion to juryo, didnt he change his first name shikona? When you expand the results box on his Kyokai page, it's been Momotaro all along, but according to my files it had never been shown on there before so the database goes with the default, his real given name. From my own observation of such things, lower division rikishi always get their shikona given name added to their profile when they make a 6-0 start, and usually (but not always) when appearing in a kettei-sen (that is, a 6-1 in which they didn't start 6-0). Shonannoumi had not done either of those. Shonannoumi fought Juryo bouts for the first time in the Kyushu basho, but I didn't think to check if that also triggers a given name profile update. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specialweek 2 134 Posted January 11 We have had covid withdrawals over the last few years and I presume some matchups where both men are kyujo the next day. How is that displayed on database? Trying to find when the last time it happened when both rikishi were injured and could not fight the next day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaitetsu 218 Posted January 11 2 hours ago, specialweek 2 said: We have had covid withdrawals over the last few years and I presume some matchups where both men are kyujo the next day. How is that displayed on database? Trying to find when the last time it happened when both rikishi were injured and could not fight the next day. This happens: a double fusen loss 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,279 Posted January 11 6 hours ago, Kaitetsu said: This happens: a double fusen loss Might as well happen tomorrow with Takarafuji-Tochinoshin... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chartorenji 205 Posted January 11 19 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said: Might as well happen tomorrow with Takarafuji-Tochinoshin... Prisoners Dilemma. Do you show up injured in the rare hope that your opponent does not? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 3,909 Posted January 12 Moot point for now, Tochinoshin has withdrawn, ostensibly for two weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 37,422 Posted January 12 (edited) Ochiai listed on the banzuke looks weird. He's a new recruit and just like the others in maezumo not on the banzuke, only competing at a makushita tsukedashi rank. The NSK lists him on the banzuke on their site, but he's not on the real printed banzuke. It would be better to ignore him on the banzuke for the DB, but would that avoid the problems on the torikumi in the future? Was it necessary to list him to avoid the problems? Edited January 12 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaitetsu 218 Posted January 12 53 minutes ago, Akinomaki said: Ochiai listed on the banzuke looks weird. He's a new recruit and just like the others in maezumo not on the banzuke, only competing at a makushita tsukedashi rank. The NSK lists him on the banzuke on their site, but he's not on the real printed banzuke. It would be better to ignore him on the banzuke for the DB, but would that avoid the problems on the torikumi in the future? Was it necessary to list him to avoid the problems? Doesnt the DB always lists them like this everytime? When Kawazoe did his debut it looked exactly the same as Ochiai in the banzuke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 37,422 Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Kaitetsu said: Doesnt the DB always lists them like this everytime? When Kawazoe did his debut it looked exactly the same as Ochiai in the banzuke It seems so, but I don't think we had these problems in the past, I think it's maybe the third time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,279 Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Akinomaki said: It seems so, but I don't think we had these problems in the past, I think it's maybe the third time. The only problem I see is that it took him several days to be added to the NSK website's banzuke. He was missing from my own initial grabbing as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yokozuna Hattorizakura 135 Posted January 24 Aoiyama v Chiyoshoma is showing up as 3-2 when it's lot more than that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yarimotsu 380 Posted January 31 https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Kabu.aspx?rikishi=1227 Database is claiming Toyonoshima became Active Oyakata last month but surely it's supposed to be RO (retired-other)? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaitetsu 218 Posted February 2 The JSA lists Oki’s shikona first name as Kasuke, not Kazuki. https://www.sumo.or.jp/ResultRikishiData/profile/3496/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faustonowaka 90 Posted March 5 On 08/01/2023 at 10:37, Faustonowaka said: Terunofuji’s rank on his page should be Ye1YO instead of Ye1 for this basho This basho too 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 17,621 Posted March 15 The RM date for ex-Tagaryu was mistyped (should be 14.02.), which has the funky side effect that the Kagamiyama kabu currently shows up twice in the summary list. 22.07.2021 (HS) - 14.05.2023 (RM) Kagamiyama[8] Shoji S Tagaryu Shoji Isenoumi Tokitsukaze 15.02.2023 (ES) - Kagamiyama[8] Shoji S Tagaryu Shoji Isenoumi Tokitsukaze Kabutoyama[10] Tsuyoshi M11 Oikari Tsuyoshi 16.06.1972 Isenoumi Tokitsukaze Kagamiyama[8] Shoji S Tagaryu Shoji 15.02.1958 Isenoumi Tokitsukaze Kagamiyama[8] Shoji S Tagaryu Shoji 15.02.1958 Isenoumi Tokitsukaze Kasugayama[24] Shota S Ikioi Shota 11.10.1986 Isenoumi Tokitsukaze 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 37,422 Posted March 18 On 01/07/2016 at 17:53, Akinomaki said: A note for Sumo Reference: likely Matsueyama had the same reading for his real name as Kotoeko, Kashiwadani instead of Kashiwaya, even if that was his first shikona. A new article today made me remember this, Kotoeko and grandfather Matsueyama , but readings may change of course, also from Kashiwatani to Kashiwadani Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAABAP 3 Posted March 27 Hello, Just wanted to know how can I suggest the updates to rikishi names for http://sumodb.sumogames.de Some of the rikishi from Mongolia has their name spelled wrong in the database and wanted to suggest the fix. For example the latest winner of Jonokuchi division Asahakuryu's name isn't spelled correctly. Profile : http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=12784 Current name : RAGUCHA Jamintkutoho Suggested fix : RAGCHAA Jamintogtokh 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yarimotsu 380 Posted March 27 10 hours ago, TAABAP said: Hello, Just wanted to know how can I suggest the updates to rikishi names for http://sumodb.sumogames.de Some of the rikishi from Mongolia has their name spelled wrong in the database and wanted to suggest the fix. For example the latest winner of Jonokuchi division Asahakuryu's name isn't spelled correctly. Profile :http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=12784 Current name : RAGUCHA Jamintkutoho Suggested fix : RAGCHAA Jamintogtokh Thanks. You're in the right place - post a list of name corrections here and they should be updated eventually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,730 Posted March 27 10 hours ago, TAABAP said: Current name : RAGUCHA Jamintkutoho Suggested fix : RAGCHAA Jamintogtokh This is quite clearly due to having the names originally given to us in kana rather than in Roman letters. If you have the preferred Roman spelling for non-Japanese names, that would be helpful, though I don't know what sort of source you'll need for them to convince Doitsuyama to make the change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yarimotsu 380 Posted March 27 26 minutes ago, Gurowake said: This is quite clearly due to having the names originally given to us in kana rather than in Roman letters. If you have the preferred Roman spelling for non-Japanese names, that would be helpful, though I don't know what sort of source you'll need for them to convince Doitsuyama to make the change. The first name that Taabap has given us is clearly a correct Mongolian name so I'd think that would be reason enough to trust him and change the names for Mongolian rikishi - Doitsuyama should have no incentive to leave them as Japangolian non-names. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 422 Posted March 27 43 minutes ago, Yarimotsu said: The first name that Taabap has given us is clearly a correct Mongolian name so I'd think that would be reason enough to trust him and change the names for Mongolian rikishi - Doitsuyama should have no incentive to leave them as Japangolian non-names. Рагчаа is a common enough Mongolian name, it seems. If you can read the Cyrillic alphabet, getting a proper Latin transcription shouldn't be a problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 17,621 Posted March 27 (edited) FWIW, the Kyokai database has it as Ragchaa Jamiyantogtokh, so it's actually different between en and jp there. Edited March 27 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 422 Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, Asashosakari said: FWIW, the Kyokai database has it as Ragchaa Jamiyantogtokh, so it's actually different between en and jp there. If Cyrillic spelling is Жамьянтогтох, this version seems quite precise. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
