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The Kotoasaki story has just come up again, and it looks like these updates mentioned a few years ago weren't noticed: 

 

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On 26/04/2021 at 18:25, Kamitsuumi said:


This is correct but only since 2018.03, when he adopted his current shikona. Before that he was Asatatsuke Takayoshi (貴芳,  たかよし).


@Doitsuyama Sorry to keep bending your ear about given names, but hopefully the following batch should mean that all currently active rikishi have correct given names matching their Kyokai profiles, which I recently finished going through en masse.

Akashifuji - Koijiro (恋次郎,  こいじろう) since 2020.01

Akitoba - should be Ryo (りょう) according to both the Kyokai and Minato-beya sites. (It's a confusing one because the kanji makes it seem like it should be Ryu, and his real given name is Ryo with a different kanji :-S)

Asadaimon - Usaburo (卯三郎,  うさぶろう) since 2018.03

Asahio - Yusei (由聖,  ゆうせい) since 2017.11

Asahanshin - Torakichi (虎吉,  とらきち) since 2018.03

Bushi - Hiroshi (宏,  ひろし) since 2014.11

Dewanojo - kanji change to 周太 2018.05, reading stays as Shuta

Fubu - Dai (太,  だい) since 2014.11

Irodori - Takateru (尊光,  たかてる) since 2015.07

Kasugaryu - Kensei (健成,  けんせい) since 2017.01

Kayatoiwa - Daimon (大門,  だいもん) since 2018.03

Kiyonoumi - Masayoshi (正芳,  まさよし) since 2018.01

Kochikara - Ryutaro (龍太郎,  りゅうたろう) since 2018.05 (probably also 2018.03 in maezumo, but cannot verify that)

Kotorikisen - Akito (旭人,  あきと) since 2014.09

Mimurodake - Yoshiaki (義晃,  よしあき) since 2016.05

Nogami - Katsuhiro (功宗,  かつひろ) from 2015.01 to 2015.03, Masanori (将里,  まさのり) from 2015.05 to 2016.03, Goki (豪規,  ごうき) since 2016.05

Roman - Chikara (力,  ちから) since 2018.07 (probably also 2018.05 in maezumo but cannot verify that)

Ryuseiyama - reading typo on both sides, the given name is Ryosuke (りょうすけ) since 2017.03

Ryutsukasa - Shige (成,  しげ) since 2015.09

Satsumao - Hidekatsu (秀勝,  ひでかつ) since 2017.05

Sawaisamu - Tomokazu (智和,  ともかず) since 2018.01

Shoryudo - Kazunari (一成,  かずなり) since 2014.11

Sumanoumi - Kenji (拳児,  けんじ) since 2015.07

Taiyo - Kazunari (一成,  かずなり) since 2020.03 (probably also 2020.01 in maezumo, but cannot verify that)

Tatsukaze - Noboru (登,  のぼる) from 2016.03 to 2017.05, then back to Ryota since 2017.07 but with a different first kanji (良太,  りょうた)

Tatsuki - Masahiro (昌弘,  まさひろ) from 2017.09 to 2017.11, Dai (大 ,  だい) since 2018.01

Wayama - Isamu (勇武,  いさむ) from 2017.09 to 2019.11

Yukiamami - Hajime (創,  はじめ) since 2017.05

Yuma - Takeru (猛,  たける) since 2014.05 (probably also 2014.03 in maezumo, but cannot verify that)

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is it just me or has the Sumo Reference site been down over a day?

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6 hours ago, Rocks said:

is it just me or has the Sumo Reference site been down over a day?

That's really odd. If it helps with the troubleshooting, it's up for me now even after a forced refresh (Ctrl+F5), so I'm pretty sure I wasn't looking at a cached page. And I managed to access it when I made my comment about Shodai in Terunofuji's yokozuna thread, so at least 12 hours ago it was also still up.

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11 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

That's really odd. If it helps with the troubleshooting, it's up for me now even after a forced refresh (Ctrl+F5), so I'm pretty sure I wasn't looking at a cached page. And I managed to access it when I made my comment about Shodai in Terunofuji's yokozuna thread, so at least 12 hours ago it was also still up.

It has been doing its yo-yo thing for the last few days.  Up for about 10 minutes and down for about 5.

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Shishi is not highlighted by the "highlight foreigners" feature when viewing the banzuke (another post from me about Shishi in this thread, I'm not a particularly big fan or anything either!)

Pic below:

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2 hours ago, Hidenotora said:

Shishi is not highlighted by the "highlight foreigners" feature when viewing the banzuke

I guess it's because he's the first Ukrainian and there's color code installed yet (and not available in the Shusshin search options either).

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Can the "Yokozuna promotion" column on the "List of Yokozuna" page also be made into a link to the respective basho? It seems that it is the case for every other rank page.

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5 hours ago, Masunofuji said:

Can the "Yokozuna promotion" column on the "List of Yokozuna" page also be made into a link to the respective basho? It seems that it is the case for every other rank page.

Yokozuna hasn't always been a rank on the banzuke though. 

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And because of that and for historical consistency, the listed dates for yokozuna promotions aren't meant to be basho dates at all, but rather simple month/year dates. Linking them would be misleading.

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Since 1970s rikishi with impossible heya assignments happen to be under discussion right now: Nishikinada (ja.wiki) and Saganoumi (ja.wiki) are listed as Kimigahama-beya members for their full careers, but the stable only came into existence in Natsu 1972. Should be Izutsu-beya prior to that, as their respective Wikipedia profiles also indicate.

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7 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

Since 1970s rikishi with impossible heya assignments happen to be under discussion right now: Nishikinada (ja.wiki) and Saganoumi (ja.wiki) are listed as Kimigahama-beya members for their full careers, but the stable only came into existence in Natsu 1972. Should be Izutsu-beya prior to that, as their respective Wikipedia profiles also indicate.

I had listed a few details about that a while ago

On 04/06/2020 at 14:07, Akinomaki said:

While checking the kabu of Kitanofuji (Izutsu-Kokonoe-Jinmaku) and his Izutsu-beya, I noticed that 2 rikishi of Kimigahama-beya (which changed to the well known Izutsu-beya later) are listed as just from Kimigahama-beya, though when they started in sumo, the heya had not branched out from the old Izutsu-beya yet. http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Kabu.aspx?kabu=35

Correct Izutsu->Kimigahama: Shirafuji and Fuji

Only Kimigahama: Taiga and Haji - Taiga was makuuchi Nishikinada when he changed from Izutsu to Kimigahama

From Hayato onwards, ex-Tsurugamine had branched out.

The old Izutsu-beya changed to Michinoku-beya later, Kitanofuji branched out of Kokonoe to form a new Izutsu-beya, which merged back into Kokonoe-beya, and Kimigahama-beya became Izutsu-beya.

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Huh, that explains why I had that nagging feeling of having seen the subject raised before. I gave up on searching too quickly, it seems.

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On 31/10/2021 at 22:42, Yubinhaad said:

Jd61w Yuriki Shota > Yurikisho Ikki


Yurikisho's shikona change is missing from the English side, all fine on the Japanese side though.

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6 hours ago, rokudenashi said:

Extremely minor, but noticed that Kotoōtomo's page in Japanese has him as Kotoōmoto instead

Probably an error in the hiragana rather than the English romaji; if his shikona is indeed the kanji for "big friend", then otomo is the correct transliteration.

Unfortunately, since he's banzuke-gai, the easy check against the NSK's official site is unavailable.

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D'oh, guess I should have known better to search the banzuke for a banzuke-gai rikishi... (Thinkingindepth...):-S

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The basho dropdown menus on the DB are listing 2021 Nagoya as "2021 July" even though it took place at its regular location.

(Spotted via the DB-powered games the other day where head-to-head matches from that basho are showing that erroneous name in the basho field.)

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What is going on in the database with ex-Satoyama's acquisition of his permanent kabu?  Both that one and the one he switched off of are listed as "AO" (Active Oyakata) as the reason for the change.  While I was typing this I went to look to see if it happened elsewhere and the server went down, so...

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11 hours ago, Gurowake said:

What is going on in the database with ex-Satoyama's acquisition of his permanent kabu?  Both that one and the one he switched off of are listed as "AO" (Active Oyakata) as the reason for the change.  While I was typing this I went to look to see if it happened elsewhere and the server went down, so...

That was a bug. End reason of Sanoyama term is same as start reason of Chiganoura term, a "KC" (kabu changed).

The AO is a not-to-be-displayed marker for currently active oyakata -- technically: a non-vacant kabu with open enddate -- and should never appear in the list.

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I've noticed an error in the counting of the Nishonoseki kabu. The current Nishonoseki should be #13 not #17. The current Araiso should be #17 not #13.

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