Sumo Reference

[Doitsuyama 1,173]

As you might know, I have collected a few bits of sumo data over time, and wanted to make them available to a broader audience. So I started with the endeavor to create a new website which has the goal to enable everyone to explore the data in useful ways.

I think I came up with a few useful pages on the new website which I dared to name "Sumo Reference". There will be more features to come in the future, but I was encouraged to make the website public, so here it is. If there are questions or suggestions, just add a reply to this topic.

My thanks go to all people who helped me in making that website possible.

[Golynohana 316]

(Showing respect...) This is simply fantastic!!!

Thank you so much (Sign of approval...)

[Jejima 1,314]

I agree with Nishi and Goly (Sign of approval...)

I was lamenting the fact that hakkeyoi seems to have ceased to be, and then you give us this! (Showing respect...) (Band playing...) (Band playing...) (Punk rocker...) (Punk rocker...)

Edited June 25, 2007 by Jejima

[Asashosakari 18,786]

The main page vaguely reminds me of BB-ref...needless to say, I approve. (Sign of approval...)

[Fay 1,677]

"a few useful pages" seems for me the understatement of the year (Showing respect...) (I am not worthy...)

[Jakusotsu 5,815]

One can hardly imagine the strenuous work and countless hours that went into that project. The NSK should hire Doitsuyama-san and pay for his efforts! Many, many thanks - this site is bound to be one of my most visited for years to come.

Since You asked for suggestions: might there be a "promotion search" feature like hakkeyoi.net used to have?

[Kintamayama 44,354]

I think this is nothing short of a revolution.

Doitsuyama for President!!!

[Doitsuyama 1,173]

Since You asked for suggestions: might there be a "promotion search" feature like hakkeyoi.net used to have?

That search was pretty rich of features not too easy to program. And the site is not even available to look how everything was done. So that's too much work for me right now.

Other ideas for new search features are additional options in the existing banzuke and torikumi searches, like age or weight or career high rank. Career high rank would be useful for searches like "Which yokozuna were make-koshi in their debut basho?".

Also, an option field for more columns in the search result table (similar to the banzuke page) could be useful.

[James H 0]

As you might know, I have collected a few bits of sumo data over time, and wanted to make them available to a broader audience. So I started with the endeavor to create a new website which has the goal to enable everyone to explore the data in useful ways.

Thank you and honto ni otsukaresama deshita (I am not worthy...)

(This is bigger news than the banzuke)

Edited June 25, 2007 by James H

[Kintamayama 44,354]

Other ideas for new search features are additional options in the existing banzuke and torikumi searches, like age or weight or career high rank. Career high rank would be useful for searches like "Which yokozuna were make-koshi in their debut basho?".

Also, an option field for more columns in the search result table (similar to the banzuke page) could be useful.

Excellent ideas!! Can you ask Doitsuyama if he intends to apply these ideas in the future?

[Naganoyama 5,841]

Excellent - best new site in a long time!

[Asashosakari 18,786]

Other ideas for new search features are additional options in the existing banzuke and torikumi searches, like age or weight or career high rank. Career high rank would be useful for searches like "Which yokozuna were make-koshi in their debut basho?".

Well, that last part is easy; just add a "Career" section to the query interface and implement the five remaining restrictions from Rikishi.aspx. (I am not worthy...) Preferably with the possibility to enter ranged values, too. (Showing respect...)

[Hananotaka 8]

*Stunned awe*

...

...Good God...

Gut gemacht and yoku dekita, Doitsu. It would have been a hell of a site just in English, but to have Japanese, too? In one fell swoop you knocked every other contender far down the hill and established The Premier Sumo Webpage On The Internet.

You ****ing rock. (Band playing...) (Punk rocker...) (I am not worthy...) (Showing respect...)

[Kaikitsune Makoto 203]

Be well be well be well

Sumo reference site of Doitsuyama's

Is more popular than even Hamas

Be well be well be well

Be good to dumbell

George Best drank alcohol a lot

SumoStat Best made sumoforum hot

Be stout be stout be stout

Be proud be proud be proud

Eggsallad sumo reference

Will be dealt with reverence

Sumo reference is an entity of great significance to generations to come.

[Mattjila 0]

Very nice, thanks for this site.

Any chance a forum admin could add a link to it in the header links?

[Doitsuyama 1,173]

Hakuho is marked as "division debut" on the newest banzuke.

Yes, I do that for all sanyaku ranks too. Works also in searches.

[sekihiryu 51]

there is spelling mistake " ressources " in your "Thanks" paragraph (I am not worthy...) otherwise its not too shabby... not too shabby at all!

(my smilies feel inadequate - they dont do the achievement justice!)

You ****ing rock.

[Doitsuyama 1,173]

there is spelling mistake " ressources " in your "Thanks" paragraph (I am not worthy...)

Thanks, never knew that. Interestingly it's that way in German.

[sekihiryu 51]

Thanks, never knew that. Interestingly it's that way in German.

well you Germans like to have lots of extra letters in your words, I mean you have words like Generalstaatsverordnetenversammlungen (I am not worthy...)

(Showing respect...)

[Doitsuyama 1,173]

Thanks, never knew that. Interestingly it's that way in German.

well you Germans like to have lots of extra letters in your words, I mean you have words like Generalstaatsverordnetenversammlungen (I am not worthy...)

(Showing respect...)

That's not exactly extra letters... the French are quite famous for extra letters, and I think this is where ressource is coming from. I don't know why it's only one "s" in English. The extra letters do work the other way too, "address" is "Adresse" in German.

[Asojima 2,870]

I think I've died and gone to heaven!!! (I am not worthy...) (Showing respect...) (Showing respect...) (Showing respect...) (Band playing...) (Punk rocker...)

[Itachi 390]

Thanks again Doitsuyama!

Now I will find it difficult to concentrate on work. I can't wait to get back home to properly investigate your new site and find ways to use it to improve my own primitive system of record keeping!

I hope you are as pleased with the results as we are.

[Zentoryu 154]

Outstanding! I think a lot of us have been waiting (not to mention praying) for a site just like this one.

So a big thanks to Doitsuyama and all who participated in putting it together. You have my unending respect and gratitude. (Showing respect...) (I am not worthy...)

edit: my poor spelling (Band playing...)

Edited June 25, 2007 by Zentoryu

[Chisaiyama 11]

You have my Kudos along with everyone else's, I went there just to check it out and spent 2 hours just grazing on all that information. I have 1 suggestion and 1 question please.

Question: I noticed while looking at the list of Yusho winners. In the Makuuchi division many of the Yokozuna's and a few of the Ozeki's prior to the 1990's were listed with HD behind their rank (e.g. Y2EHD or O1WHD) - what does the HD stand for please?

Suggestion: In your "spare" time (LOL) would it be possible to change the Sort By boxes so that 2 levels of sort might be possible. Example I searched for all Rikishi ranked Yokozuna the sorted by Heya. The resulting list came out sorted by Heya but then it defaulted to Shikona as the secondary sort. If instead I could have selected Heya and Hatsu Dohyo I would have a list that would have given me a chronological list within Heya as opposed to alphabetical by Shikona. Not a ding just a request for a future enhancement.

I am truly amazed at the amount of material you have been able to gather together in the one database to use someone else's phrase in fact, shocked and awed! Keep up the good work please.

[Doitsuyama 1,173]

Question: I noticed while looking at the list of Yusho winners. In the Makuuchi division many of the Yokozuna's and a few of the Ozeki's prior to the 1990's were listed with HD behind their rank (e.g. Y2EHD or O1WHD) - what does the HD stand for please?

It's for "Haridashi", meaning they were written kind of in a side box on the banzuke (so that the makuuchi row is "sticking out" which actually is a possible translation of haridashi). This was the usual practice with all second (or third) level of each sanyaku rank on east and west, so that the actual banzuke has only one rikishi at each sanyaku rank. Nowadays those rikishi are sorted in, giving as much sanyaku ranks in the banzuke as needed.

Suggestion: In your "spare" time (LOL) would it be possible to change the Sort By boxes so that 2 levels of sort might be possible. Example I searched for all Rikishi ranked Yokozuna the sorted by Heya. The resulting list came out sorted by Heya but then it defaulted to Shikona as the secondary sort. If instead I could have selected Heya and Hatsu Dohyo I would have a list that would have given me a chronological list within Heya as opposed to alphabetical by Shikona. Not a ding just a request for a future enhancement.

There are more sort issues in the banzuke query output (like different sorting for groups and details in expanded groups - this one actually works in the torikumi search). Implementing your suggestions actually is easy, it's more the question how to maintain an easy user interface for the sorting. Clicking on column headers just is much better than selecting from various combo boxes. I will give that a thought. Maybe you (or someone else) can point me to an existing solution for a neat user interface for multi-level sorting?