Kaikitsune Makoto 100 Posted February 11, 2008 - He looks indeed too fat for his strength. His shiko is not impressive either.- He has surprisingly good tachi-ai posture. He holds his hips really low without showing any strain for the knees. Good flexibility under that mass ... this is encouraging. - He showed patience after all the harite and just did his own sumo (i love this cliche). in general .... i like what i've seen. There may be more about him than i thought . Carries his weight well yes. It is said his weakness comes more apparent when he is attacked from the side. Definitely good hip strength and nice overall postures with all that weight. His shiko looked much better in one recent picture though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 106 Posted February 12, 2008 Carries his weight well yes. It is said his weakness comes more apparent when he is attacked from the side. Definitely good hip strength and nice overall postures with all that weight. His shiko looked much better in one recent picture though. ill go a bit off-topic sir while i am asking you to give us in another topic (if you wish of course) small reports on various rikishi that made an impression on your while you were watching sumo from up close (i take it you were in Tokyo this basho ... right?). You insight on lower division rikishi is very good and it would interest me much to hear some technical stuff you noticed about them. off-topic end ... (Nodding yes...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaikitsune Makoto 100 Posted February 13, 2008 ill go a bit off-topic sir while i am asking you to give us in another topic (if you wish of course) small reports on various rikishi that made an impression on your while you were watching sumo from up close (i take it you were in Tokyo this basho ... right?).You insight on lower division rikishi is very good and it would interest me much to hear some technical stuff you noticed about them. off-topic end ... :-) I wasn't in Tokyo during basho so didn't see more makushita action than you did. In the future when I have the chance to see lower division stuff, I will report with passion. Did go to see Sakaigawa-beya's keiko before Hatsu basho but that was fleeting visit to Tokyo. Wrote my impressions about their lower division guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 106 Posted February 13, 2008 I wasn't in Tokyo during basho so didn't see more makushita action than you did. In the future when I have the chance to see lower division stuff, I will report with passion. Did go to see Sakaigawa-beya's keiko before Hatsu basho but that was fleeting visit to Tokyo. Wrote my impressions about their lower division guys. yeah ... i remember that report and i just assumed that you stayed there for the basho as well .... :-) sorry .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kakkerlek 0 Posted March 26, 2008 5-2 for YMY in Haru 2008! Still not enough for juryo I think (he's in makushita 6), but maybe a KK in natsu basho will do the trick. I didn't see any of his bouts but it seems one of his wins was by kimetaoshi or arm barring force down. Here's the official description: kimetaoshi (arm barring force down) - The attacker will bar his opponent's arm or arms from the outside. He will than force the opponent down by throwing his weight into and on top of him. It is most often seen today after the opponent has a achieved a double inside grip. I would have like to have seen that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Susanoumi 0 Posted March 31, 2008 5-2 for YMY in Haru 2008! Still not enough for juryo I think (he's in makushita 6), but maybe a KK in natsu basho will do the trick. I didn't see any of his bouts but it seems one of his wins was by kimetaoshi or arm barring force down. Here's the official description: kimetaoshi (arm barring force down) - The attacker will bar his opponent's arm or arms from the outside. He will than force the opponent down by throwing his weight into and on top of him. It is most often seen today after the opponent has a achieved a double inside grip. I would have like to have seen that one. Hello, I also think that Yamamotoyama has talent and so he should be able to reach Juryo after next tournament. Well, maybe Yamamotoyama will be the first really heavy rikishi since Musashimaru to became a Makuuchi-wrestler. I hope so. Susanoumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaikitsune Makoto 100 Posted March 31, 2008 In the current climate of suspiciousness, creativity and poise, is it really so that NOONE has any eye witness reports concerning Yamamotoyama's 2 losses in Haru basho? In his winning bouts he was totally overwhelming. It would be of utmost significance to hear how were his losses against Kotoyutaka and Mori. Please someone tell me and the rest of the world. This is far more important that foreign minister's 200 sms-messages to a regular exotic dancer woman. Please accord and also please witness Yamamotoyama beating everyone in fast beer drinking. Hayanomi indeed. Be weller. http://youtube.com/watch?v=dgaljkgjVZA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealzbob 0 Posted March 31, 2008 Thanks for that. I wonder why he simply couldn't stand still. He swayed constantly from side to side (and I doubt it was the alcohol). I was getting seasick just watching it (Sigh...) Maybe his legs need to alternate the load :-P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Washuyama 531 Posted March 31, 2008 I wonder why he simply couldn't stand still. He swayed constantly from side to side I think he was doing the pee-pee dance... :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotoviki 16 Posted March 31, 2008 I think he was doing the pee-pee dance... (Laughing...) Thanks for that!!! I'm going to think about that all day long.. I LOVE It! :-) (Clapping wildly...) (Clapping wildly...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gusoyama 49 Posted April 2, 2008 I've seen a lot of heavy guys do that for some reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaikitsune Makoto 100 Posted June 3, 2008 Update after Natsu 2008 basho. YMY got a 4-3 at Ms2 but unfortunately due to bad banzuke luck, he wasn't promoted to juryo. In Natsu basho he looks powerful as always winning well and showing good footwork and strength in his losses too (in the 2 I saw, haven't seen the one against Yoshiazuma). He started off with an aggressive attack against Aran pushing him around quite a bit but ended up victimized by Aran admittedly well honed pulling skill. Then he yanked Hokutokuni with a big kotenage using his belly as a leverage too (as was also pointed out by commentating oyakata). He caught Tosayutaka well and smothered him in kote hold despite yielding morozashi to Tosa. Mori is used to YMY as he has had plenty of bouts/training with him in amateur days so he knew what to do and moved around a lot. Still YMY defended well and had couple of nice counter moves before solid maemitsu grip by Mori combined with YMY's upright stance made YMY a passenger. Mori had the plan to go for frontal mawashi grip and succeeded in it well. Still very good defense from YMY too and excellent tactics by Mori. I didn't see his bout against Yoshiazuma but he was gasping for air and leaning towards the hanamichi wall after Mori bout so maybe got banged up a bit. In any case he came back strongly by yoritaoshing Kotoyutaka and getting kachi koshi against wily Sagatsukasa in his first ever juryo bout. YMY's mobility is MUCH better than many think. Also oyakata commentators were impressed by his footwork especially against Sagatsukasa. YMY's style is power sumo of course and one trait is getting high kotenage stance which is okay but somewhat worrying as it appears so often. He can throw strongly from the belt and naturally has heavy pushing. He has lately gone for more straight forward attacks with tsuppari and oshizumo. He seems a bit vulnerable to morozashi and needs to have better defense against that. He can prevail at this level even when letting foes get inside but can't let stronger foes do the same constantly. The weak point in sideways movement has improved which is promising sign. The remaining question is his endurance both physically and health-wise. He has tools, power and good training environment. In Nagoya basho he will be hit with big man's nightmare which is Nagoya heat and will sweat profusely. Natsu 2008 YMY bouts: http://youtube.com/watch?v=lF6vPCH8oeo vs Aran http://youtube.com/watch?v=LnHF8d4z9i8 vs Hokutokuni http://youtube.com/watch?v=MIgtL6Ozec0 vs Tosayutaka http://youtube.com/watch?v=O1c3z4sYjV8 vs Mori http://youtube.com/watch?v=TJBE2ZOw5AE vs Sagatsukasa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Takamichinoku Posted June 19, 2008 Hello yeah Kainowaka is one of my friends I always liked Kainowaka........hes cool guy I pray he win's next Basho.....Cannot wait to see him win. A dream come true him leaving after match.......he looks at me from a distance.. And cannot help to hide from him in yell his name in a loud voice Kainowaka!!!!!!!! :-) (Yawning...) I want him to bring him the Trophie shwahoos!!!!!!!!! (Yusho winner...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonosuke 27 Posted June 20, 2008 (edited) Hello yeah Kainowaka is one of my friends I always liked Kainowaka........hes cool guy I often go all out off of tangent myself but this here thread is about Yamamotoyama and nothing personal but you may want to offer your insight on YMY if you can. I'd urge all newcomers to post often and more but if you can and if it's possible, something closely resembling to the original poster's intent would be appreciated by all. Well at least both guys are heavy and rather not attractive to look up from below the dohyo when they bend down but I don't find much else common other than they are in Makushita. Edited June 20, 2008 by Jonosuke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 32,560 Posted June 20, 2008 Well at least both guys are heavy and rather not attractive to look up from below the dohyo when they bend down :-) Damn, this is funny.. Coffee-spitting- on- keyboard funny.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Takamichinoku Posted June 21, 2008 YAMAMOTOYAMA Yamamotoyama Been one of my favorite wrestlers everthough he's new I pray he gets a wining streak to the top of Yokozuna which is hard work for a beginner But things take time and times of the essence. I aways liked him even when he first started out............. I used to know alot of links about him when he entered now its like links are fading i've tryed googling his name on normous occassion's. And all i get are results of Green Yamamotoyama tea exspecially when I look for pictures of him. I would like to meet him in person one day. And tell him how :-) how happy he makes me when he win's a match.......................... Well for now Yamaotoyama is in will awyas be my favorite until he or I die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonosuke 27 Posted June 21, 2008 Takamiichinoku, you know I don't know your background or what your faith is but you are definitely a child of the universe, no less than Iwakiyama or Hoshitango. Yamamotoyama is a Tsukebito of Baruto and with both of them on the same platoform, they weigh over 410 kg so you may want to stay out of their way when you see them coming towards you as no doubt you have a right to be here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 32,560 Posted July 12, 2008 Look what I found.. YMY in a beer drinking contest!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgaljkgjVZA&NR=1 Being introduced somewhere: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJLsqdZ0xjY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 3,536 Posted July 13, 2008 YMY in a beer drinking contest!! If only they had proper mugs, they could do a real contest. (Singing drunk...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manekineko 200 Posted July 13, 2008 YMY in a beer drinking contest!! If only they had proper mugs, they could do a real contest. (Singing drunk...) Yeah, that's one easy way to impress Japanese (especially if you're a woman) - down that puny glass of beer in one go. :'-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotoviki 16 Posted July 26, 2008 Look what I found.. YMY in a beer drinking contest!! I think it is cute that he's doing that contest with Tetsuya (Baruto's current tsukebito) who is less than 95kgs! I was laughing at Tetsuya on the jungyo tour because he couldn't keep the kids from storming Baruto. I said "you need a bigger tsukebito to control them! :-S" They were acting like crazy monkeys so I managed to calm them down and get them to actually line up and wait their turn and say thank you since many had not been doing so! Baruto was shocked & Tetsuya just looked at me.. "what's the secret?" I said "you are too small and you aren't an elementary school teacher!" (but he is a cutie! (Holiday feeling...) Together Baruto and Tetsuya look cute. Baruto is so huge and Testsuya is so small in comparison! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 557 Posted July 28, 2008 He will be getting a proper shikona now he's a sekitori, won't he? "Yamamotoyama" doesn't really cut it in juryo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 3,536 Posted July 29, 2008 He will be getting a proper shikona now he's a sekitori, won't he? "Yamamotoyama" doesn't really cut it in juryo. And "Aran" does? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 557 Posted July 29, 2008 He will be getting a proper shikona now he's a sekitori, won't he? "Yamamotoyama" doesn't really cut it in juryo. And "Aran" does? Well at least that isn't just his surname with "yama" stuck on the end... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 3,536 Posted July 29, 2008 And "Aran" does? Well at least that isn't just his surname with "yama" stuck on the end... You do realize that it's actually even less, don't You? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites