Seiyashi 4,071 Posted February 5 Is it really necessary for a kabu holder to move into a stable before a rikishi from that stable can take over the kabu? Could it instead be possible that there was some emergency in Isenoumi that needed a more senior oyakata on a caretaker basis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,354 Posted February 23 Tatsutagawa Oyakata (ex-Houmashou) has officially switched to Shikoroyama and will run the stable. 6 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,726 Posted February 24 16 hours ago, Kintamayama said: Tatsutagawa Oyakata (ex-Houmashou) has officially switched to Shikoroyama and will run the stable. Is Tatsutagawa available, or is it being held for Abi, or ... ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,786 Posted February 24 That's now up to Terao's family, presumably. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,786 Posted March 5 (edited) On 23/02/2024 at 09:25, Kintamayama said: Tatsutagawa Oyakata (ex-Houmashou) has officially switched to Shikoroyama and will run the stable. And he took on a new first name in the switch, according to the updated duties page (changes backdated to Feb 23). 立田川 豊英 Tatsutagawa Toyohide -> 錣山 矩幸 Shikoroyama Tsuneyuki; it's a first name ex-Terao used to use. Miyagino is listed third among toshiyori, behind the previously demoted Nakagawa and Tokiwayama, but ahead of all the "true" toshiyori-ranked oyakata. No change in his listed responsibilities so far, but I can't imagine that his assignment to the press club is going to survive the annual general update of jobs at the end of the month. Edited March 5 by Asashosakari 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,798 Posted March 21 Riji Hanakago, head of the compliance department, before his retirement in April (he turns 65 on the 8th) had an interview and got flowers o o no mention of going on as counsellor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themistyseas 226 Posted March 21 6 hours ago, Akinomaki said: no mention of going on as counsellor In light of recent developments (everyone stays on as long as possible), it'd be a little surprising. There aren't a huge number of eligible or soon-to-retire names in this ichimon, either I wonder, given the recent news of his citizenship, if the name might be ticketed for Tamawashi (or potentially Takayasu?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,546 Posted April 17 Furiwake-oyakata (former Maegashira Sadanofuji) has left the Kyokai today, vacating the myoseki which he was holding on loan. 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raishu 207 Posted April 17 2 hours ago, Yubinhaad said: Furiwake-oyakata (former Maegashira Sadanofuji) has left the Kyokai today, vacating the myoseki which he was holding on loan. So Myogiryu doesn't want to continue in Juryo, it seems. I don't see a kabu-swap-bonanza considering how the shares are currently distributed among the loanees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,786 Posted April 17 So we presumably have at least half the answer to the "did ex-Hochiyama and/or ex-Sadanofuji become owners in their odd kabu switch?" question from back in December now. At least for Sadanofuji that's a "no". On 27/12/2023 at 18:03, Asashosakari said: Edit: They've both been toshiyori for so long that I think if either of them now owns their new share they'll be promoted to shunin right at the next opportunity in March/April. Not conclusive evidence, but FWIW Hochiyama is still just toshiyori. On 27/12/2023 at 18:03, Asashosakari said: (...) I'm honestly not sure if Hochiyama is the higher priority kabu target among the two. Sadanofuji had the much better career and he's from the same prefecture as Sakaigawa-oyakata. So much for that. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,546 Posted May 7 Hochi reports that Oguruma-oyakata (former Ozeki Kotokaze) will retire from the Kyokai on the 11th, after just over two years of his consultancy term. He has decided to return his myoseki to Sadogatake-beya, which was his heya as an active rikishi - Kotoeko intai looming? Elsewhere, today was the last day at work for sewanin Fukuryudake, who turns 65 tomorrow. 3 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themistyseas 226 Posted May 9 On 07/05/2024 at 12:27, Yubinhaad said: Hochi reports that Oguruma-oyakata (former Ozeki Kotokaze) will retire from the Kyokai on the 11th, after just over two years of his consultancy term. He has decided to return his myoseki to Sadogatake-beya, which was his heya as an active rikishi - Kotoeko intai looming? This is entirely baseless speculation, but I wonder also if someone like Kisenosato might be beavering away in the background to try and secure one for Takayasu, in which case could we see Kotoyuki take over Oguruma with the Araiso name reverting to the Nishonoseki family for the former Ozeki's later use (which could still go to someone like Kotoeko on loan)? Seems like stranger things have happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,798 Posted May 9 (edited) The former shisho leaves the NSK and ex-Yoshikaze after the Aki basho the scandalous Nishonoseki-beya to become independent, according to the latest rumours on YT, which stem from a Weekly Post article 3 days ago https://www.news-postseven.com/archives/20240507_1961510.html They'll use the just closed Michinoku-beya, he takes his Nittaidai guys with him, except Onosato. The morning papers are out in a few hours, they may have details, if it's for real Edit: Shirokuma is a bit longer in the heya is rumoured to move along Edited May 10 by Akinomaki 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 688 Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Akinomaki said: the scandalous Nishonoseki-beya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 1,694 Posted May 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, Akinomaki said: The former shisho leaves the NSK and ex-Yoshikaze after the Aki basho the scandalous Nishonoseki-beya to become independent, according to the latest rumours on YT, which stem from a Weekly Post article 3 days ago https://www.news-postseven.com/archives/20240507_1961510.html They'll use the just closed Michinoku-beya, he takes his Nittaidai guys with him, except the new ones Onosato and Shirokuma. The morning papers are out in a few hours, they may have details, if it's for real The article says that Nakamura joined ex-Kisenosato because he was excited at the prospect of working at the innovative heya that Nishonoseki aspired to create, but had grown disillusioned due to a difference in direction as to how the heya should operate. Given the recent Onosato/hazing issue, reading between the lines, I wonder if, like his nemesis Hakuho, Kisenosato has also been less focused and attentive as a shisho than he should have been--prompting Nakamura's desire to strike out on his own. Edited May 9 by Kaninoyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 886 Posted May 9 (edited) I've no idea how much Onosato valued Kayo & Miyagi's company, but still there's some potential for that to be unsettling. That obviously applies to Shirokuma and everyone else just as well, but the steaks are clearly higher for the big man. Edited May 9 by Koorifuu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,786 Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Kaninoyama said: The article says that Nakamura joined ex-Kisenosato because he was excited at the prospect of working at the innovative heya that Nishonoseki aspired to create, but had grown disillusioned due to a difference in direction as to how the heya should operate. Given the recent Onosato/hazing issue, reading between the lines, I wonder if, like his nemesis Hakuho, Kisenosato has also been less focused and attentive as a shisho than he should have been--prompting Nakamura's desire to strike out on his own. Or ex-Yoshikaze is just hard to get along with. I don't even necessarily mean that as negatively as it sounds, but considering they broke up Oguruma-beya so he and ex-Takekaze wouldn't have to work together (despite the possibility that Yoshikaze could have always branched out later!), perhaps he's just very strong-willed and too opinionated to serve as anybody's wingman for too long, and it's to everybody's benefit for him to stake out his own path. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,798 Posted May 11 On 07/05/2024 at 21:27, Yubinhaad said: Hochi reports that Oguruma-oyakata (former Ozeki Kotokaze) will retire from the Kyokai on the 11th, after just over two years of his consultancy term. He has decided to return his myoseki to Sadogatake-beya, which was his heya as an active rikishi - Kotoeko intai looming? The NSK announced today that Oguruma-oyakata has retired as of today. https://www.sumo.or.jp/IrohaKyokaiInformation/detail?id=644 He reported his decision to quit earlier than age 70 to the former Kotozakura today at the Matsudo Reien cemetery o Kotoeko is kyujo and looks ready to retire Oguruma had said he wants to give way to an enthusiastic younger one. o 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunbaiHolder 25 Posted May 14 On 11/05/2024 at 13:25, Akinomaki said: Kotoeko is kyujo and looks ready to retire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,798 Posted May 16 On 09/05/2024 at 21:30, Akinomaki said: The former shisho leaves the NSK and ex-Yoshikaze after the Aki basho the scandalous Nishonoseki-beya to become independent, according to the latest rumours on YT, which stem from a Weekly Post article 3 days ago https://www.news-postseven.com/archives/20240507_1961510.html They'll use the just closed Michinoku-beya, he takes his Nittaidai guys with him, except Onosato. Nakamura today at the talk-event in the sumo museum talked about his vision as a heya owner, but didn't mention any schedule. o Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,631 Posted May 17 Does this mean there is supposed to be a Nakamura beya that comes up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,798 Posted May 17 2 hours ago, WAKATAKE said: Does this mean there is supposed to be a Nakamura beya that comes up? Yes, for quite a while tabloids and derived YT videos claim that Nakamura announced he'll go independent - without any official announcement reported. I posted this after a more reliable channel picked it up (the sumo bar of Tokotakara) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixRPD5yCTBU The implications for Onosato and Nishonoseki-beya are in the focus now, not the actual move by Nakamura, that is taken as definite - latest news from Weekly Post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3rXbgQXmu4 though still no reliable schedule was announced - Nakamura commented on Onosato at the talk yesterday, without mention that he'll be in a different heya soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 688 Posted May 17 Kotoeko is Oguruma oyakata now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sue 483 Posted May 18 On 17/05/2024 at 05:17, Bunbukuchagama said: Kotoeko is Oguruma oyakata now. I'm sure he'll be a big wheel in the NSK. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripe 70 Posted May 18 (edited) On 17/05/2024 at 11:17, Bunbukuchagama said: Kotoeko is Oguruma oyakata now. Does he get to own it outright or is he just loaning the kabu? Edited May 19 by Ripe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
