Kintamayama 42,366 Posted October 7, 2006 The 40 year-old ex- Juryo and Makushita veteran Kotokanyuu (the active rikishi who had the longest career -25 years,in Sumo) who went on a rampage and had to leave sumo had his danpatsushiki today. His oyakata and heya-mates were not in attendance. 150 other people snipped his hair. "I caused unnecessary worry to those who supported me ", he said, tears rolling from his eyes.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,676 Posted October 7, 2006 His oyakata and heya-mates were not in attendance. 150 other people snipped his hair. "I caused unnecessary worry to those who supported me ", he said, tears rolling from his eyes.. That's really more than sad ... (Applauding...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotoseiya Yuichi 3 Posted October 7, 2006 Did they have a choice? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonosuke 28 Posted October 7, 2006 Who organized it and were his shisho and heya mates actually invited? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 42,366 Posted October 7, 2006 (edited) Who organized it and were his shisho and heya mates actually invited? Doesn't say, but his new "boss" cut the oicho in the end, so go figure. My take is Sadogatake paid for it but did not go and didn't allow any heya rikishi to go either. I'm pretty sure Kotokanyuu knew this in advance, so the invitation was a moot thing. Just my guess. Edited October 8, 2006 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoshidango 0 Posted October 7, 2006 Isn't this highly unusual? I wonder there was some poor relationship between Kotonowaka and Kotokanyu prior. Also I wonder any wrestlers from other heyas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonosuke 28 Posted October 8, 2006 I believe it was highly unusual apparently having no heya people nor apparently without having any representatives from the Kyokai. Some thought he would stay with the heya in some capacity but I thought otherwise. When he realized there was no support whatsoever coming from his heya nor Kyokai people after the incident, he probably decided there was no point at all trying to hang on any longer. There were rikishis who committed far worse offense than him but none treated as shabbily as he was after putting in 25 years of his life and 12 bashos as sekitori. Of course in his case, it was not something the Kyokai could easily bury it under as it was reported rather prominently in media. Personnaly I felt he deserved a more gracious appreciation from Sadogatake beya and Kyokai but it was more a lesson taught to everyone else, rather than a punishment deserving of the offense.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilovesumo 12 Posted October 8, 2006 I am just angry reading that...I mean, how can they act like that? In this long time he spend in the Sumo world, there must be emotions on each side. Sadogatake's (Heart) should ace... :-( The same, what about the respect? Kotokanyu has to be respected and if it's just for his age. This one incident killed respect and emotions...can't be... (Applauding...) (Applauding...) (Shaking head...) All the best for him... :-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 42,366 Posted October 8, 2006 Isn't this highly unusual? I wonder there was some poor relationship between Kotonowaka and Kotokanyu prior. Also I wonder any wrestlers from other heyas? No mention of other heya rikishi. I didn't see any poor relationship between Oyakata and Kotokanyuu when they were here. If anything, he was treated by everyone as if he already was an affilited Oyakata. It was just bad timing that this happened now, when everyone is talking about the deteriorating behaviour of the rikishi etc., and a day after Sadogatake was called in to explain Kotooushuu's behaviour. I have to agree with Jonosuke- nobody deserves this kind of treatment after retiring, regardless of how shameful it is. More so when we are talking about a guy who gave 25 years of his life to the heya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petr 0 Posted October 8, 2006 Considering that most of the rikishi in this heya have a literally hole in their head from dumbell punishments by one of their former oyakatas, I find the attitude to violance quite inconsistent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chiyozakura 127 Posted October 8, 2006 Sad, very sad. I don't admire his oyakata and heya-mates. Roho and Chiyotaikai had to be punished in place of him. Maybe you are right and this gives new opportunities to Roho's and Chiyotaikai's opponents. Just send your tsukebito around and let him beat up a kid in the shitaku beya and you get a fusensho. Sounds like two extra wins for every joi-jin rikishi! By the way I seem to remember that Roho actually was punished for his behaviour... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotoseiya Yuichi 3 Posted October 8, 2006 He assaulted another rikishi. That's a crime. That much we know for a fact. Shattering a door glass and breaking someone's glasses (?) is worth three days' suspension and assaulting another human being is worth two? That begins to sound like Finnish legal system. We know preciously little factual information about all this. Why make hasty judgments based on assumptions? We might as well assume that everyone in Sadogatake wanted to participate in Kotokanyu's danpatsu-shiki but they were flatly prohibited by NSK to do that. Perhaps the truth will once be heard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoshidango 0 Posted October 9, 2006 Thanks for comments to my questions. From what I read, & considering the timing, the treatment of Kotokanyu by the Kyokai seems quite discriminatory - although don't know what grounds... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
