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  1. troutbum

    Paranoia runs deep... the Asashoryu stuff.

    For me as a sumo fan the next 2 tournaments are just not the same with the top dog not there, the exitement missing. Now for me sumo is a sport like any other sport and I like to watch it, I dont care about the bushido or shinto bullshit a lot of people here on the forum associate it with. Its a dream to buy a ticket, what is that supposed to mean. I bought quite a few sumo tickets in the past and it was fun but not any more, this media pushed scandel initiated by some old farts in the sumo organization whose Alzeimer desease seems to have already substantialy progressed makes sumo at least for the time being suck for quite a lot of people not only me.
  2. troutbum

    "Japanese way"

    I don't know you or your situation, but it may be useful for you to read, study, and find out more about Japan in general, and the "Japanese way". It may be helpful in comprehending sumo, and this situation, more clearly. Japan is a country where most people don't say what they mean. This pretty much summarizes the "Japanese Way"
  3. troutbum

    Uneducated Asa setting a bad example

    So you are saying Kisenosato is well behaved on the dohijo? I would say he is an arrogant misbehaved child, who hasn't seemed to have learned much in "tatakiage". If that guy is supposed to be a good example of behavior in sumo, then something is wrong with your system. An example of a well behaved sekitori: Wakanosato
  4. troutbum

    Asa in hot water again?

    Actually this is not exactly true. If Asashoryu has done one thing, just one thing, after this whole news broke, he could have come back from Mongolia as quickly as he could (instead he did only after summoned back by his shisho and the Kyokai heads). He could have gathered reporters around and stood up and apologized for his misbehaviour. People whether Japanese or not can be forgiven and magnanimous if they see a person truly repentant of his sin. That in itself leads to his redemption. Asashoryu truly needs to be embraced by Japanese public in this trying time. He needs warm and generous support. But he could only receive it if he can come out clean and honest with himself and sumo fans. Instead of hiding behind the veil of silence, if he has done all that, he could have risen above all this and could have the people pulling for him to come back strong. Obviously he has done none of this. There was a great opportunity for him to turn from a villain to a babyface overnight by coming out sincere and straight. Asashoryu has shown in the past he could be a real charmer and likable character when he works at it. I believe he still can but the window is ever growing narrower. If he can truly rise above from this and be embraced warmly by people, he can become truly the greatest yokozuna of all time in every aspect. There were many yokozuna who did not become a yokozuna at his age so he still has a lot more possibilities. Yet at the moment he is fallind into a downward spiral, not speaking out, not eating, not asking for help. Asashoryu has to realize that if he does not come out of this soon, he will have no chance of coming back on the dohyo. Almost six months of non-activity will kill any chance of ever coming back. Asashoryu has never been physically big but he played tough and ramble style of sumo. Rather than pushing out his opponent, he went out and tried to lift him and throw him down. His intention was to bring a fear into his opponents mind. That may have been effective but it took so much toll on his body. It's never easy to play that way against rikishi like Iwakiyama, Miyabiyama or Kotomitsuki for so long. In recent years his training level has diminished considerably as he tried to rest from all that nagging injuries he suffered through years of physical abuse. But for a smaller rikishi this could become fatal. And I believe without sufficient motivation and intensity, six months of inactivity would kill any chance of him coming back strong. He has to find a goal, something to prove to everyone. Obviously right now he has not shown any of it. How long this can keep going on? One thing he wanted more than anything else was to have the people acknowledge him as a great yokozuna. His record shows he is one but in every other aspect he knows himself the people haven't come around to believe he is the one. To be truly acknowledged as one, he will need the sumo fans to cheer for him, pulling for him. It is still possible but he has to change his way of thinking. He needs to have a courage to tell people that he has made errors and to pledge he would do everything in his power to prove he is worthy of their respect and support. Without it and to salvage his all accomplishments, the only recourse left for him is to retire gracefully sooner the better. Look if people get into a depression, they cannot get out of it by themselves. Depression or the probability to get into a depression is most likely as we know genetically inherited. Now the yokozuna is obviously more prone for this. To even blame him for this is rediculous. Before punishing someone in at least for westerners seemingly inhumane way one should evaluate what the effects may be on the persons physical and mental health. Obviously the sumo organization failed to do this, although this can be done today. To punish someone for a mistake is one thing but to destroy the person deliberatly leaves a very bad impression on the character of the people running the sumo organization and on japanese society as a whole.
  5. troutbum

    Real Men...

    "So while this punishment may seem incredibly harsh to those outside Japan, it's fairly par for the course in these kinds of situations."-quote- Your kidding me, confining people to their quarters, these are Nazi methods. The ruling would not stand up in front of any legal court. I think there is also a racial issue here. Many Japanese have a tendency to think that their race is superiour on this planet, and believe me I know what I am talking about, as I have 6 years of experience on this subject now. Kitonoumi is one of the silliest buttheads I have ever seen. Saw him sitting next to Jaque Chirac in Osaka 2 years ago. He never talked with Chirac in 2 hours just sat next to him looking straight ahead, now I think that calls for a severe punishment for not fullfilling his job. I had planned to go to see the Fukuoka basho in November, but its pretty uninteresting now, so I will just skip it. Spend the money on something else. Yet it would be very funny if the Yogurt man or Mickey would win the next two yushos, and the sumo organization would be forced to promote one of them to yokozuna.
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    Sumo support

    Don't know why you feel adressed, all I said is that I feel more comfortable and for me it's an ethical decision to pay for that what I want. If at all I could refer to someone at this lovely sumotalk forum who praised himself to buy the low-budget tickets and always sits on the best seats. As I don't have the possibility to be there the whole year it's one chance to support, not more and not less. I don't care at all how much money you spend, if I decide to support some Heya or some rikishi it's a private matter between them and me and I don't need to make a big deal out of it. As Jonosuke said, money doesn't make a fan. Have to agree with Fay here. Westerners can get away with that behaviour in Japan, because they are not taken seriously by most Japanese anyway. But the strange thing is that gaijins dont seem to behave the same in other events. Like I have never seen anybody at the Opera or in a soccer match buy the cheapest ticket and then sit in the most expensive one and pretend he didnt know when the true owner of that seat came. Maybe it is the soo soo great love for Sumo as pointed out in this thread that leads to such erratic behaviour.
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    Edit

    Aber hallo, Englisch Sprach, schwere Sprach. Sorry but I cannot follow what you are trying to say.
  8. troutbum

    Tattoos and Bath

    In my area, Southwest Japan, most onsen are still tattoo kotowari (tattoo banned). I was kicked out of an onsen while I was in the middle of washing myself. It was an extremely unagreeable feeling and since then I`ve been rejected a few times from entering into different ones. My town has an onsen resort area about 10 minutes walk from my apt., many onsen, none of which I can enter. I found a decent one about a 20 minutes drive away in the next town that I can go in. I`m assuming they changed the rules because many Russian sailors come in and they want the business (although, I`ve never seen one there). This rule is my biggest pet peeve about Japan. There are many young people who get tattoos these days, and that aspect of "onsen culture" is something they can`t experience. It`s part of their culture, but they can`t experience it. It`s just old-fashioned thinking and an unwillingness to change. Judge people on their behavior, not what they look like, is what I say. Unfortunately, tattoo discrimination (or discrimination of any kind) is not illegal in Japan, so these shops can get away with it. Also, it may depend on how many tattoos you have. I`ve heard from several people, who had only one tattoo, that they experienced no problems in the local onsen. I, myself, have six tattoos, so maybe it`s harder to pretnd you don`t see it. Edit: I LOVE onsen! and can`t go in most of them. MUKATSUKU! Drive to Yubara, thats not so far from Tottori. Just below the dam, there is an onsen in the river. It is free, and on weekends there are a lot of tatooted Harley drivers there. No problem there with tatoo.
  9. troutbum

    Edit

    Two years ago at Osaka basho I sat 20 meters away from Chirac and his delegation on the cheap seats. For security reasons the cheap seats are better to control than the front.
  10. troutbum

    Tickets for 2008 Haru Basho

    "Finally as you probably know, you can sit in any seat you like until that seat's "owner" turns up, and until makuuchi starts you can just move to some other free seat. After that the staff get a bit tetchier about it, and you will probably have to go back to your own seat. Based on my experience, you have a chance of making it all the way to the zabuton throwing if you sit in the front section, but in the back row and towards the side. Having said all that, towards senshuraku the arena may well be booked solid, so if you're desperate to be at the front then you might need to fork out." Yes, many gaijins do sit on seats they have not payed for. Yet this is considered rather rude by japanese standards and you will not see any japanese do this. This kind of behaviour reinforces japanese attidutes of foreigners being unrespectful people. Nothing for you to worry about as a visitor, but it concerns me as someone working in Japan. So please respect japanese manners while you are here.
  11. troutbum

    What is wrong with kotooshu?

    I have watched him over the years and I believe he may have some serious mental depression problem. And it seemed to get worse the higher he went up in the ranks, pressure increasing on him. If you look at his interaction (or actualy non interaction) with fans, press and his fellow rikshi, that is what depressive people often do, they isolate themselves from the rest of the world.
  12. troutbum

    favorite annoucers?

    I like Hiro MORITA as well! (In a state of confusion...) He mentions WAZW in Japanese first and explains it in English! Also I like Musashimaru Oyakata. Japanese announcer: IWASA Eiji is the best! He himself did Sumo, when he was a student of TOKYO Uni at Tokyo Uni Sumo-bu. His knowledge of SUMO is excellent. Sometimes Oyakata (even Mainoumi) asks a quesiton to him. I like Dave Wiggins and his pancakes and the holy tolido. But dont forget I am not american. But best as always is the moose. Difficult to understand him, but if one does he has great philosophical comments like: Today anything can happen. Can it get any better than this? :-D
  13. troutbum

    Wrestler Cheat-Sheet

    He's obviously not writing for a scientific audience. Well then why do all japanese sumo magazines list the wrestlers weight in kg??? Because they are writing for a scientific audience???
  14. troutbum

    Rikishi Talk Day 2 Natsu Basho 2006

    Oh really in america you can see a specialist any time. You guys must have the greatest health system in the world, congratulations. Here in japan the specialist may have just gone back commuting to his home for 1 to 2 hours on that day, and as the injury of the yokozuna was not life threatening his treatment could wait, I think that is fair enough.