Yubiquitoyama

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  1. I'm glad someone actually noticed it disappeared despite there being so much newer and better sources nowadays. I have all of it somewhere on my harddrive, so if anyone would like something, please PM me. My internet provider stopped providing personal homepage space and therefore I just let it disappear...


  2. Apropos today's match: Anybody else noticed the eerie parallel flight that Tochinoshin and Miyabiyama have engaged in this past year?

    So, does that mean Miyabiyama is soon on a new Ozeki run? ;-)

    Btw, having followed sumo scarcely the last few years I just now noticed that Kasugano really is turning into a powerhouse in sumo. Suits me fine since I liked old Tochinowaka. Musashigawa though seems to be on the brink of the generational shift from hell... (Ok, no news to those more active around here of late, but things you notice when trying to get back on track...).


  3. Maybe the evil plan is to set up an ichimon of really thin oyakata, who will win out by their superior health and lack of obesity related diseases.

    Joke's on them, the retirement age limit will still apply. ;-)

    You underestimate the power of the dark side, young padawan. When Takanohana is rijicho, he will of course abolish such nonsense for oyakatas with a BMI below 25... :-O


  4. Hakuho has good change to get over twenty yushos, but after that mark it will be hard way to break records.

    With no Asa, Hakuho could likely take 10-11 of the next 12 tournaments. That would only bring him up to weeks after his 27th birthday, and put him within 10 of the record. Who's going to stop him from getting at least that far, besides an injury? I think that part is nearly guaranteed. After he's there, another 10 championships over 4 years would be do-able. Most people on here seem to think we're a long, long way away from the next Yokozuna, and Hak would need to be seriously opposed soon to derail his record hopes. With no Asa, and no other serious competition, the record could fall in just over 4 years. It's really a matter of timing. Asa was very fortunate in this respect, with nobody else able to regularly win 12 matches in a tournament during his solo reign. How long is it before the next contender arises?

    I hope we're never going to find out about this, because I'd like Asa to stay.

    Well, being around 20 yusho at the age of 27 is not the problem. Several have done it. The problem is the last 12.

    Anyway, as others have stated, the options are a bit strange. I don't think either will make 32, not because they are not dai-enough-yokozunas, but because 32 is difficult (duh). That something is doable does not make it probable. Anyway, I believe Asashoryu will stay in but will not win many more yusho either way, so he will not as such be the biggest threat to Hakuho. That threat will be injuries and future opposition.


  5. If you seriously think that needs to be avoided, I guess only future dai-yokozuna should be promoted to ozeki anymore.

    Which has been a surprisingly common opinion in past discussions on Ozeki promotion standards, if I remember correctly. Although of course the proponents wouldn't admit/realize that themselves.


  6. Of course, it didn't get any traction here either, although I was sure the Asashoryu fan contingent would jump at their chance to see Hakuho criticized for lack of dignity... Colour me nonplussed.

    Wouldn't that be a bit "our guy hasn't done nothing wrong... but your guy did it too!"... Not that it is that unusual, but still... :-)


  7. Well, I'm not putting my money on him making Yokozuna just yet. I can still see him as some Araiwa-type who wins several yusho, but doesn't quite manage to string them together. But admittedly, he is in a good spot right now, and when he can even win yusho with all top contenders against him, I do admit I might be too cautious. But we'll see...


  8. Tomozuna and Kokonoe expressed their discomfort. "I wouldn't have gone if I were still active", said Kokonoe.

    Without going into the actual issue, I still wonder if this is really true. As far as I know, Kokonoe always enjoyed golf and I wouldn't put it past him, at least in the latter stages of his career, to accept to play if he found the opportunity entertaining enough, even a couple of days before hon-basho. But of course it's impossible to know.


  9. Mr. Takeda, the author of the article: I was surprised at the large sum for damages. Of course, we are going to appeal. I have full confidence in the accuracy of the article. I think it's unreasonable to say there is [absolutely] no yaocho. There is no reason for me to tone down my writing in the future.

    Hm. Yeah, that sounds like a good reason to write detailed articles: Surely it must exist, eh? (Showing respect...)


  10. I beg to differ. The existence of the OBSC can never been proven, only the non-existence, and for that a single stray bout might suffice.

    But there are never any stray bouts, because the premises always change when such one occurs, so that it can be explained away. Of course, this is how any conspiracy theory works, so nothing strange with that. But it makes disproving it impossible.


  11. :-D B-) I am happy,content, and generally positive. I just hope this isn't his swan song.

    Yes, I agree. I think I'd like to see Asashoryu in reasonably great form for a few years more and I think sumo would be better for it, but his career does in many ways resemble that of other great yokozunas in which case this could well be "that final showing"... (Whistling...)


  12. Bittersweet basho with Kitazakura dropping to makushita and little brother probably going to makuuchi for the 8th time. I sorta expected the former, but the latter is a huge surprise for me.

    That would make it 5 rikishi aged 35+ in makuuchi at the end of Haru basho...I wonder if that's a modern-day record.

    Somewhat always a question of what you mean by modern-day...

    It is not a record if meaning post-1958, or post-WW2. I haven't done a systematic search in any way, so I don't know what the record is, but I found that around the end of the 50s there was quite a number of old-timers active simultaneously. The size of the Makuuchi-division then is of course part of the reason for the uneven comparison...

    See for example 1958.03 which includes

    Kw Kitanonada born 1923.02.01

    M03e Tamanoumi 1923.01.02

    M03w Wakasegawa 1920.02.20

    M07e Hajimayama 1922.04.23

    M10w Wakabayama 1922.11.09

    M14e Mitsuneyama 1922.02.07

    M14w Hirosegawa 1919.02.28

    M21w Hiodoshi 1922.08.22

    M22e Ononishiki 1922.03.20


  13. Edit: Eh, alternative suggestion removed upon further consideration...

    If this alternate explanation was that "grouchy ol' Yubi obviously fails to live up to his own expectations in some other area and therefore takes his frustration out on some random poster in the Sumo Forum" you would not be completely wrong (Sigh...)


  14. I' a bit at loss what you are expecting from the statistic. It says that 2008 was a poor year in terms of Ozeki performances, no more no less. For the reasons you cite, and others.

    I expected some sort of point. A random statistic as this pretty much says nothing, so I don't understand what that point was.


  15. Here is a stat on my own -- the average number of Ozeki wins per basho per year. Only completed bashos were counted.

    In 2008, the Ozeki won on average 8.8 fights per basho (Kotooshu 9.6, Kotomitsuki 9.2, Kaio 8.4, Chiyotaikai 8.0). This is significantly below the long-time average for Ozeki (9.9 for 1958-2008) and actually closer to the long-term average for Sekiwake (8.2). It is also the lowest Ozeki-score since 1980 (a special year, when the only two active Ozeki, Takanohana and Masuiyama, went intai). Typically, when the Ozeki average comes down close to 9 or lower one or more Ozeki went intai, but not in 2008.

    I'm somewhat surprised that this hasn't been commented on, but I really think it should, since this statistic is completely useless and says nothing in its current form.

    Any year where there have been a lack of "soon-to-be-Yokozuna"-Ozekis will have lower average numbers since no one getting really strong numbers will be there. Comparing that to average Sekiwake-numbers doesn't say much either since such numbers inevitably includes Ozeki-promotion-streaks, which will make them higher than what can normally be expected from a typical Sekiwake. In other words, it is comparing apples and oranges. It will also fluctuate quite wildly depending on what type of Ozeki happens to be present a particular year or for that matter, whether an Ozeki has decided to step out from tournaments or not when being injured/in bad shape.


  16. 1,75/105 at 14 looks good. He'll grow probably around 1,80-1,85 and around 150 at 18-20. Good size for speed and technique. And if he's really hard working then maybe we'll see him in 3-4 years as sekitori.

    Admittedly I'm very rusty as to this, but 3-4 years is rather short, isn't it? Unless he turns out to be Ozeki material, isn't 6-8 years more probable (and even that takes a bit of talent)?


  17. I do not see him making Yokozuna, although I do believe he'll one day make Ozeki (heck, I said he'd make Ozeki pretty much when he entered Makuuchi, so I'd be quite the coward if I suddenly took that back when he actually starts hitting on the Ozeki door...).


  18. Does anyone consider it just giving up? Saying his appetite is stronger than his willpower?

    It isn't the willpower that is lacking in such cases. Overweights who can't get thin have pretty much the same strength of will as others (so we all have a lack of willpower, if you will). We all say that it's unbelievable how some overweight friend simply can't eat less, while we smoke away happily, since of course it's much harder to quit smoking than lose weight. Or don't clean our apartment. Or don't start exercising. Or don't write that job application. Or whatever happens to be hard for us to do. While of course those problems others have would have been trivial. It's the human nature.

    But I'm very happy Konishiki has taken this seriously. (Sign of approval...)


  19. I think a straight on hit at tachiai, followed by a quick shift for an advantageous position would be considered good sumo by most oyakata and coaches.
    Tochiazuma used to be criticized by fans for the same thing.

    No, I'm pretty sure most who criticized him for that wasn't fans :-P