Yubiquitoyama

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    Tomioka Hachimangu Shrine

    Thanks! Ah, but at least I now know who were the last Ozeki to be on the slab two years ago... It seems, looking a bit more on the web, that they (Takanonami and Musouyama) were still not inscribed mid-summer this year, and I suppose we would know if it had happened since then. Maybe it has simply not been planned. Btw, following the answer to the first question, does anyone know why it took so long to bring in new slabs (for the Yokozuna monument) when the old ones were full (must have taken 20 years or so)? Was this practice at the Tomioka Hachimangu shrine simply forgotten during those years?
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    A few difficult questions

    Or so I think. Anyway, reading "Grand Sumo" by Lora Sharnoff (somewhat dated, 1st edition from 1989, so also a few errors), I came upon a few things I wondered about (whcih I don't think can be found by using the search function). A. It is said that in some stables the training ends with a novice or two being asked to recite the sumo code of honor. Is this something someone being at keiko have seen, and then at which heyas? And of course, exactly how goes the "sumo code of honor"? B. It is also said that some heyas even end the day by standing up and singing the official Sumo Association song. Again, does this exist anymore? Has anyone seen this happening and in that case where? And how does the official song of the Sumo Association go (I only require an mp3 file with perfect singing of course) :-) C. Another question is about head chefs (cooks). How common are they in heyas and does anyone know of any former rikishi in this post? Any former sekitori? D. I heard Dewataira (I think it was) and Umenosato are trainers paid by the heya owners. Does anyone know of other former sekitori in this capacity? E. Finally, does anyone have the full list (preferrably in kanji) of the traditional 48 hands (techniques) of sumo? I'd be happy for any answer shedding some light on one or a few of these questions... (Shaking head...) EDIT: Added labels on Adachinoryu's suggestion. EDIT: In the book, the "sumo code of honor", is said to be something like ("I will show respect to my elders;I will take the initiative to perform various chores...")
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    A few difficult questions

    It is fully ligit to be paid by the heya owner to be a trainer and certainly known by most in the sumo Kyokai. Why shouldn't you be allowed to spread that information? I very much doubt it is work anyone would be ashamed of doing either. (In a state of confusion...)
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    Proposing SumoForum.Net's Own Sumo FAQ

    Indeed, and I won't be the one taking the lead, but I am the one opening up this thread again (despite forum rules), since I'd like to know if this is still something that there are interest in. For various reasons, I am back rereading some old sumo material, so I'd be very willing to participate in this. Is there still interest from others? EDIT: The reason I never responded initially was that it came in a time where my reading the forum was severely limited. I just found it while searching for something completely different...
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    Origin of the Danpatsu Shiki

    Good question... It has been done as a ceremony for at least 70 years, but I don't know how much longer than that... EDIT: Well, logically it should have happened at least back to the 1870s, since that's about the time when rikishi were but non-rikishi were not allowed to wear top-knots, but whether it's been a ceremony like now all that time or not is more than I know...
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    Discworld fan club

    Somewhat akin to this thread: Wintersmith (the third of the series with Tiffany Aching) has been released. Has anybody read it yet? I'm trying to get my local library to get it right now, but I'd still like to see some review or opinion or such... Edit: Ah, I missed Jezz's last post... Anyway, it's all still true...
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    Wakanoyama's Danpatsu Shiki

    Thanks, great report and pics! One question though (to anyone who might be able to answer). If I understood you correctly neither Fujishima (Musouyama) nor Musashimaru was there. I haven't contemplated it before, but it struck me that I can't recall lesser oyakata (being mentioned) taking a snip unless they were former shisho or the like. Is there some kind of practice or even unwritten rule that only the shisho takes a snip as representative of the oyakatas of the heya? Can someone recall how common it is for some run-of-the-mill oyakata of the same heya to do a snip at a danpatsu-shiki? (Laughing...)
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    New criteria for founding a new heya

    I don't know, using Natsu 1994 as the point of comparison smacks of cherry-picking on Mainichi's part, as that was right after 3 unusually strong shin-deshi seasons. In Natsu 1991, the number of rikishi was only 771, less than 10% more than today. And as I mentioned above, the number of heya was 49 in mid-1994, so surely it must have been pretty close to 50 (and thus comparable to today) back in 1991. So over the last 15 years or so, the number of stables has increased by perhaps 6 or 7 (I'm discounting the soon-dead Isegahama-beya). If somebody wants to seek reasons for the big increase in heya count over the "thirty-something" from the mid-1980s, perhaps they should look to the late 1980s for explanations instead. The number of heya in 1991 was 44. New heyas tend to come in clumps and 1992-93 was one of the worst yet, when 6 new heyas were established. Over a longer period though, the increase in heyas was rather steady during the 1980s and 1990s, going from 32 at the beginning of 1980 to 42 at the beginning of 1990 and 54 at the beginning of 2000. It's ironic that the rules change just when it has been a rather constant number of heyas for some time.
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    New criteria for founding a new heya

    Ironically enough, I think in the short run we'll see the exact opposite phenomenon, if Moti's follow-up information holds up: That's gonna lead to even more competition for the services of talented college rikishi, I'm willing to bet. And oyakata like Isegahama and Oshiogawa were already complaining that too much money is involved in acquiring those guys... Yes, that's true... And another effect could well be that those intending to start a stable will do more legwork in persuading already established rikishi and for that matter established sekitori to leave along with them. I doubt it will actually dissuade anyone bent on starting a stable of their own... I wonder why this heya issue emerged now and not earlier. Is it just Mihogaseki who got pissed on losing all his talent, getting a bit of support for the notion that college oyakata may be good at snatching the best college talent, but they can't form a proper rikishi? Or is it the first step in introducing more toshiyori positions while maintaining the number of heyas (since of course more oyakatas would mean more potential heya owners)? It doesn't sound completely impossible, but I guess I'm mostly rambling. I can't really get a grip on what triggered this. EDIT: Btw, Asashosakari, those six heyas you were uncertain about were indeed established by the current oyakatas. MORE EDIT: I wonder if Kitanoumi is really the one to talk about how to bring up rikishi ;-) EVEN MORE EDIT: Another irony is the implication that the reason for these rules is that rikishi do not learn the proper behaviour by these new-generation college oyakatas. The rikishi I can recall having had more or less "bad behaviour" of late is Roho, Kotokanyu, Asashoryu and Kotooshu. All of which belong to heyas whose owners would be allowed to start a stable of their own... YET AGAIN: Is this a good or bad rule? Well, I agree with Jonosuke that this is all subject to change. But it seems to me that if it was mostly an economic issue it would be much better to limit the number of heyas, to say 55 or 50 or whatever seems reasonable. This way the rules HAVE to change for those not likely to inherit a heya, or they will never have their chance to be a stable-boss. So unless this is just some first step in a more complete remake of the heya/toshiyori rules, I'd say it's a pretty bad rule, or at least inefficient.
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    Discworld fan club

    Thief of time. No? Indeed, but there's been 7 books (4 in the main Discworld series) since that (Whistling...) Maybe I should have said "another" Death book soon... ;-)
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    New criteria for founding a new heya

    I tend to think that's it. But maybe it is also a roundabout way to reduce the number of college rikishi. Maybe they think that when there are (eventually) fewer heya owners with a college background, there will be fewer recruits below the top tier from that recruiting ground. It doesn't sound all that impossible, if there would indeed become fewer heya owners with a college background, but if that's actually the result remains to be seen. Anyway, I would be very very surprised if this rule isn't changed again within the next five years, ten tops.
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    Adoptee Reports

    My adoptee Takamaru got a 3-4 at Sd6w which basically maintains him where he's been for more than 5 years... I strongly doubt he'll ever be making much of a move upwards, but one can only hope. Sandanme yusho in Kyushu!!!
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    Discworld fan club

    There is another short story about Granny Weatherwax called "The Sea and little fishes". I think it has evolved over time, but one version (which might be the one I read a couple of years ago) of it can be found here: The Sea and little fishes As regards to "when was Pratchett best", I agree with several above that the best books are some of the later one, preferrably those without Rincewind (I still consider Last Continent the worst ever), and I personally very much like all other books around that era, from "Maskerade" to "Thief of Time". I do hope Pratchett writes a Death (eh... Susan) book soon...
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    Takanohana's last Yusho

    At least there are rikishi actually publishing books, which I kind of stumbled over last night (and I think hasn't been mentioned here. It seems ex-Onokuni (Shibatayama-oyakata) recently published a book of sweets and cakes from all the corners of Japan. Not really "the way of Taka", or for that matter "the weight of Taka". ;-)
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    Happy Birthday Asashosakari!

    Happy birthday! (Punk rocker...)
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    Urban legends

    The rikishi in question is Taikoumaru. Try this thread. And everyone from the Nordic region doesn't hate Asashoryu. Dislike might be a better word... (In a state of confusion...)
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    Discworld fan club

    I am an avid fan as well, and I definitely appreciate the more serious parts of the books. However, I think some of the last few books like Going Postal and Monster Regiment simply weren't really up to par. Thud! was somewhat better, but no career highlight. In fact, of late the "childrens books" have been much better (although he doesn't seem to let up much of his seriousity just because he is "writing for children"). I can't abide the Patrician. Just don't like him. Vimes and Granny though...
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    Kotokanyuu retires

    Such a pity to see the old guy retire. He has been remarkably close to his all-time high for so long, but of course it can't last forever. I just hope his stunt (which I can't help but feel is a bit strange, or at least that not all information about it has been divulged) which brought it all on won't make extra trouble for him after retirement. I really hoped for him to be involved to teach the next generation of rikishi in some capacity as he has been one of my favorites for years.
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    Most Enjoyable Rikishi

    As usual, this kind of question tends to be more than one, so it's up to the repliers to decide what to answer. For example, is it the rikishi I think bring joy to my own sumo watching, or the rikishi I feel make sumo more attractive in general? Personally, Tochiazuma is always a rikishi whose matches I watch even if I don't have time to watch any other matches, but it's obvious that I am in the minority to actually enjoy his sumo. Even among them liking Tochiazuma, it seems many find him boring. I also enjoy watching Chiyotaikai, Miyabiyama, Hakuho, Kakizoe, Baruto, Kotomitsuki, Kokkai, Iwakiyama, Ama, Takamisakari, Hakurozan, Tosanoumi, Homasho, Hokutoriki, Tochinohana, Wakanosato, Toyonoshima, Tokitenku, Kaiho, Kitazakura, Toyozakura, Otsukasa, and probably a few more. As for the more general question of who brings life into sumo, it's impossible to ignore Chiyotaikai, Baruto, Ama, Takamisakari and Baruto, and as much as I hate to admit it, Asashoryu. I also think the -zakura-brothers bring in their share of fans, probably Hakuho and maybe even Kyokushuzan. Kaio brings light to sumo just by being Kaio, but he has faded in more than his sumo the last few basho.
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    Banzuke Surfing Aki 2006 (2nd Wave)

    Sd27w Sakaizawa
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    Banzuke Surfing Aki 2006 (1st Wave)

    Ms41e Towanoyama
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    Interesting trivia fact

    Well, I don't completely agree. I think Asashoryu fans should savour these days when he is so dominating. I personally think he will suddenly stop winning more than a stray basho (whether because of some injury or something else) and although it could come tomorrow or in five years it could well be rather abrupt. It has happened before. At this point I don't think Asashoryu will beat Taiho's 32 yusho but rather end up around 26-27. Which means at least 3 more years of good service.
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    Quotes from Day 14 - Nagoya 2006

    This is a rather interesting comment I think. A year and a half ago me and Maguroyama discussed Chiyotaikai's "deader than dead" basho quotes and counted the days to his retirement. This comment rather sounds as if it comes from some 23-year-old new Ozeki just burning for learning new things to apply in the future... Maybe just a one-off, but interesting notwithstanding... (Clapping wildly...)
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    Banzuke Surfing 2nd Wave Nagoya 2006

    Sd40e Dewanofuji Sd39e Kagemaru
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    Banzuke Surfing 1st Wave Nagoya 2006

    Ms56w Saita