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  1. Jomangor

    Year end awards 2023

    The Weeping Gyoji award! Then the Rikishi who has had the most mono-ii go against him wins the Weeping Rikishi award. What do we call the award for the Rikishi who wins the most torinaoshi? The Double or Nothing award? And how about the award for the most torinaoshi losses? The No means No award?
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    What makes a great ozeki?

    That's correct. Here's the wiki link and here's the Ozeki-discussion-relevant passage from the beginning of the article: The phrase "I know it when I see it" is a colloquial expression by which a speaker attempts to categorize an observable fact or event, although the category is subjective or lacks clearly defined parameters. The phrase was used in 1964 by United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart to describe his threshold test for obscenity in Jacobellis v. Ohio.[1][2] In explaining why the material at issue in the case was not obscene under the Roth test, and therefore was protected speech that could not be censored, Stewart wrote: The expression became one of the best-known phrases in the history of the Supreme Court.[4] Though "I know it when I see it" is widely cited as Stewart's test for "obscenity", he did not use the word "obscenity" himself in his short concurrence, but stated that he knew what fitted the "shorthand description" of "hard-core pornography" when he saw it.[5] Stewart's "I know it when I see it" standard was praised as "realistic and gallant"[6] and an example of candor.[7] It has also been critiqued as being potentially fallacious, due to individualistic arbitrariness.[8][9]
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    Natsu 2023 discussion (results)

    Maybe signing all those Tegata was good practice.
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    Making a comprehensive list of sumo terminology

    Just for reference, here's the link. The Wikiwand Glossary of terms isn't as complete, but it does list the words in Japanese, which might be helpful in other ways.
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    Multiplication of Sekiwake

    A Splendour of Yokozuna An Ambition of Ozeki An Excessive of Sekiwaki A Hopeful of Komusubi A Number of Makunouchi
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    Miyagino/Hakuho extra activities

    So do rats and mice...
  7. Since we're picking nits, Konishiki seems to say 'chomange' instead of 'chonmage'. Obviously he knows what's correct but I wonder if that particular metathesis is common. Looks like Katasukashi to me:
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    Rare kimarite watch

    This old Japan Times Kimarite List reference mentions that "[tokkurinage] was also called gasshohineri but that name is now used to describe a variation of tokkurinage." I don't know how old the website is. This seems to explain the confusion/disagreement.
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    Hiro Morita’s “Sumo Prime Time”

    There's more than one way to iri your dohyō.
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    Sumo goods

    It looks here as though still done by hand, though this video is a bit old at this point. Since new e-banzukes are being made, perhaps it's still relevant.
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    Sumo Ranfurly Shield History

    Ok, I've completed my own spreadsheet through 1929 inclusive, based on the posts of Gurowake and Sakura. Interesting to note: Onishiki successfully defended the shield on average the most but only held it the once, where as Tochigayama successfully defended it the most often overall. Kiyosegawa and Dewagatake won the shield from others most often (five times each) with Dewagatake slightly better at holding on to it. Rikishi Awarded Won Successfully Defended Ave. Defenses per Possession Akutsugawa 1 4 4.0 Asahibiki 1 2 2.0 Dewagatake 5 7 1.4 Fukuyanahi 1 0 0.0 Hatasegawa 2 8 4.0 Hitachidake 3 2 0.7 Hitachishima 3 5 1.7 Hitachiwa 1 7 7.0 Hoshikabuto 1 0.0 Ichinohama 1 0.0 Imizugawa 1 1 1.0 Kagamiiwa 1 1 1.0 Kiyosegawa 5 5 1.0 Komaizumi 1 3 3.0 Manazuru 2 2 1.0 Misugiiso 2 1 0.5 Miyagiyama 1 7 7.0 Nishikinada 2 2 1.0 Nishinoumi 4 5 1.3 Noshirogata 3 2 0.7 Onishiki 1 14 14.0 Onogawa 2 7 3.5 Onosato 2 5 2.5 Oshio 1 3 3.0 Shinobuyama 1 1 1.0 Sotogahama 1 0.0 Tachihikari 3 11 3.7 Takaragawa 1 0.0 Tamaikari 1 0.0 Tamanishiki 4 2 0.5 Terukaze 1 1 1.0 Tochigayama 1 1 20 10.0 Tsunenohana 2 7 3.5 Tsurugahama 1 0 0.0 Wakabayama 2 2 1.0 Yamanishiki 3 3 1.0 Yoshinoyama 3 1 0.3
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    Sumo Ranfurly Shield History

    Since I brought this up in the crosspost, I thought I'd give a better example of what I mean. I propose the following tracking: Rikishi Awarded Won Successfully Defended Ave. Defenses per Possession Oshio 1 3 3 Onishiki 1 14 14 Misugiiso 1 1 1 Tsurugahama 1 0 0 Tachihikari 1 4 4 Komaizumi 1 3 3 I've added it at this point because it demonstrates the difference between what Gurowake has so kindly started and what I'm suggesting for cleaner recordkeeping. The issue of a shieldholder missing a bout or tournament seems analogous to a shieldholding rugby team playing an away game - that match is not counted in the statistics.
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    Sumo ‘Ranfurly Shield’ for 2022

    It seems as though we're keeping track of how many times a wrestler has defended the shield, but not how often he has won it from another wrestler. The wikipedia page on the Ranfurly Shield has an 'overall records' table that lists Wins, Successful Defenses, and Average Defenses (per possession). I can't keep up with the pace of the work being done in the other thread, but I thought it worth mentioning before we get too far along to make the tracking too onerous.
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    A Gaijin Looks At Sumo Wrestling

    This is the kind of post that makes me wish there were a 'wow' option under the like symbol.
  15. For the record, Italian has seven vowel sounds, which is certainly covered by your 'approximately', but the two 'e' and two 'o' sounds can add to some subtle confusion.