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58, not that great considering. Too many misses and hits (non-bullseyes) wore me down. They were a lot nicer to Tochinoshin and Kotonsho than I though. But I really don't understand the Daieisho decision at all! I wonder if anyone guessed K2W for him?

It'd be really harsh if they demoted Kaisei; he was out through no fault of his own, and dropping to juryo would mean a loss of salary for something that he had no control over. It's possible they could do it but it'd be immensely unfair.

My guess, pretty similar to a lot of others. I kept moving around guys like Kotoshoho and Tochinoshin a lot, M7-M13 or so is where all the variation is, but I imagine this will be a much higher scoring game on average than the last one! Things will come down to getting the half rank/1 rank differences we all have correct or not. I'm less happy with my guess now than I was originally but it'll do OK I think.

Was wondering where the GTB thread was! I'll be submitting my entry as soon as I'm happy with it, I keep second guessing myself about the mid-table. I'm guessing they won't be moving any of the COVID-kyujo guys from January even though they said some of them may be moving; I presume they're talking about the upper part of juryo, which is a bit of a mess.

I wasn't intending to complain, sorry if it came across that way; them's the rules and I was well aware of this potentially happening (see my earlier posts in this thread second guessing myself about 2 or 4 komusubi). Just having a wee public venting session, I'll direct any future complaints to the banzuke committee for making the banzuke wrong! Also yeah, the site doesn't appear to show the updated results for me either yet.

Only 30 points this time, (fairly sure) I went with 4 komusubi (which I still feel like there should be, really can't agree with only 2 but ah well). Consign this one to the trash with the rest of 2020! If I'd put just 2 komusubi I would have had 51 points (I think). Very irritating to have one decision ruin the entirety of my guess, 51 would have been well into kachi koshi territory and almost what Reonito scored just now. This is kind of an unusual case I guess but it does feel like a "gap" in the rules, that I can get the order of everyone mostly right but because they're all one rank out I get nothing. Ah well, see you in February I suppose!

The same situation in Aki 2019 (10-5 at M2W) lead to K2 ranks, so I don't see why it wouldn't here. I've just been scarred by the madness of 2020 and now I just assume that the opposite of what I expect to happen, will happen. But I think I'm going to die on this hill, K2 or bust!

This entire GTB is going to hinge on if they add extra sanyaku slots or not. If you guess that aspect wrong, your entire entry may as well be scrapped haha. It feels really harsh to not add the extra slots, right now I'm thinking they will add them but as time goes on I become less and convinced... Will be interesting either way!

Fairly sure I've got 59. I didn't think they'd put Kotoshoho up that high, and that messed up my middle a little but that's like 19 points better than my previous guess, so pretty happy with that. Looking forward to seeing the full results!

Interesting, I never knew it was different below juryo. I was sure I'd seen a mizu-iri below juryo, but on looking through a bunch of videos I couldn't find a single one, every one of them was a torinaoshi. Added to my list of trivia!

Ah, of course, the classic consultant fee move! Thanks for clearing it up guys. I asked because I sort of had the impression based on things I'd read in passing that the practice continued, but at the same time all "official" rules and info I'd read said it was still banned. Thank you both!

So does that mean no? When did that change happen then if that's the case? Sorry, kind of an esoteric question and I guess not many people really know but this is one thing where you read one thing in one place, and something else in another. Was hoping one of you could answer it definitively!

Hi all, Sorry if this has been answered somewhere else. There's a thread from when the NSK became a "public interest corporation" in the wake of the yaocho scandal in 2011 and some posts since, but I can't find anything concrete on this issue. As above, in the wake of the yaocho scandal in 2011, the NSK became a "public interest corporation" and prohibited the buying and selling of elder stock, with the kyokai deciding who the next holder would be, based on the recommendation of the retiring oyakata. Is this still the case today? Has there ever been any friction between a retiring oyakata and the NSK in terms of who would inherit a kabu? And how does this work for borrowed kabu? I understand this practice still occurs, but does everything have to go through the kyokai now? Including borrowing and guys swapping kabu? Any info or input would be appreciated, and if this has been answered definitively somewhere else, I apologise and please direct me to that thread. Thanks!

Thanks for the warm welcome guys! I'm from Sheffield, not far from Cleethorpes at all, used to go there on holiday as a kid in fact. The only place outside the U.K. I've been is Japan in fact; if you're gonna do something, may as well go big, is my motto!

I scored 40, which I'm pretty happy with considering the overall split of scores this time. Must have been an open bar at the banzuke meeting. I feel like Ikioi really got a bad deal here, and Ichinojo was incredibly lucky. Well done to anyone who predicted that!