Reonito

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  4. Posted

    30 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

    That rikishi A and B might do similarly well when they compete against schedule X and also when they compete against schedule Y doesn't tell us much of anything about how A fighting X and B fighting Y should be compared. That's down to the characteristics of X and Y, not A and B.

    Completely agree, though I'd argue that unless there's a good way to quantify X and Y, it's basically impossible to compare A and B. What useful information could you get from their records if one fought 15 bouts against prime Hakuho and the other against Shonnanzakura? :-)

  5. Posted

    17 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

    The quality differences between bottom maegashira and top juryo are of course negligible for the ones who tend to be paired up for these matches, mostly the first 3 ranks on each side, but their respective full schedules extend much further into each division.

    That's fair, though the head-to-head results suggest they might fair similarly with similar schedules.

  6. Posted

    10 hours ago, Yamanashi said:

    essentially, equality (2000 to present)

    Suggesting that the practice by the banzuke committee to favor lower-makuuchi rikishi over those in upper juryo with similar rank-record combinations "by the numbers" may not be as justifiable by strength of schedule as one might think.

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  12. Posted

    Assuming Asanoyama decides to stick it out and fight back, the trajectory should look something like this:

    7.21 O -> 9.21 S -> 11.21 M10 -> 1.22 J5 -> 3.22 Ms5 -> 5.22 Ms45 -> 7.22 Sd25

    On the way back up, assuming 7-0 in the lower divisions, and 12 wins as sekitori, I get:

    9.22 Ms16 -> 11.22 Ms1 -> 1.23 J12 -> 3.23 J3 -> 5.23 M12 -> 7.23 M1

    So he could return to the paid ranks in early 2023, and the joi about two years from now. He won't get his rank back until 2024, and that's assuming Terunofuji-like dominance.

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  14. Posted

    1 hour ago, Eikokurai said:

    Common wisdom is Kisenosato was promoted largely off the back of just one calendar year – 2016 – in which he got the most Makuuchi wins and four JYs, among them two 13-2s.

    My impression was that the promotion came because this built on several previous strong years (like 4 straight JY in 2013), but it's hard to know the ways of the NSK/YDC.

  16. Posted

    1 hour ago, Gurowake said:

    Kotoshoho next (although his swift departure makes him more likely to become another Asasekiryu or Chiyootori)

    I'm still holding out hope that he'll be back up quickly, and that his next stint will be more lasting, once his ankle fully heals.

  19. Posted

    24 minutes ago, Yamanashi said:

    Quote from the article: "Takakeisho is a grafter, so I expect him to continue getting better and stronger."

    Does anyone know what this means?

    "Graft" is one of those words that has pretty much opposite meanings in British and American english:

    US: "make money by shady or dishonest means."

    UK: "work hard."

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  23. Posted

    1 hour ago, Asashosakari said:

    Tochimaru won the KK playoff against veteran Kitaharima, but barring a surprise sekitori retirement announcement in a few hours he'll be stuck in makushita again for Nagoya, making him one of the very few rikishi who had three consecutive kachikoshi in the Ms1-Ms5 range and still didn't get to juryo.

    Even restricting to rikishi starting at Ms5 and only managing 4 -3 each time, he's unlucky by modern standards.

  24. Posted

    38 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:

    Still, all the more reason for Terunofuji to have beaten Kise at least once, his own health concerns notwithstanding.

    Yeah, it was hard to believe at the time the whole thing wasn't a "work."

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