Reonito

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  2. Posted

    29 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

    You can't compare that to other cases, esp. not Takakeisho. There is the "fix" unwritten rule: 3 times double digits at sanyaku and 33 wins is the exact precondition for a promotion, lately repeated by the top Takadagawa. The logical result is that they have to promote him to sekiwake, if he wins 10, because he is on official ozeki run then and they can't/won't promote him from komusubi to ozeki directly.

    The "rule" isn't a rule, it's a guideline, and you can find at least one counterexample. They don't have to do anything. And he isn't on an official ozeki run until they say so after the second basho of such a run, and give a target for the third, which they obviously won't do if they opt not to promote him this time.

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  3. Posted

    14 minutes ago, Katooshu said:

    What does Onosato need to hit to make ozeki for November more likely than not? Would 12-9-12 (33) without a yusho on the second 12 be so different from Takakeisho's unsuccessful 9-13-11?

    They'd have discretion to go either way with that result. Quality of the sumo and timing of the losses matters: Takakeisho got absolutely demolished by Goeido on day 15, and apparently the shimpan were heard saying, "not with that sumo." I'd guess Onosato is more likely than not to be promoted with that result, and anything more would all but assure it.

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  4. Posted

    1 hour ago, Gurowake said:

    I suppose this also raises the issue whether even if he does get 33/3 from Sekiwake whether it will be good enough, so they might be fine with not promoting 33/3 from Komusubi anyway.  10-10-15 though would seem like an iron clad promotion as long as he was at Sekiwake, and they should at least consider it a possibility.

    We chatted about this before the basho. Given that this is his first stint in san'yaku, and he's fairly new to makuuchi, I don't think they'd hesitate leaving him at komusubi if there's no pressing reason other than the potential ozeki run to promote him. If he then pops off in Kyushu, they'll just ask for double digits at Hatsu. They famously didn't promote Takakeisho after 9-13-11 at K-K-S (with 10 at M3 before that run), so I don't see an issue here.

  5. Posted

    2 hours ago, dingo said:

    In the ozeki-contenders' match Hiradoumi proved to be no match for Onosato. Onosato was a bit more aggressive than usual, perhaps trying to prevent Hiradoumi getting into an attacking position and thus neutralising his main weapon. Out of those two the ozeki lookout is definitely favouring Onosato who doesn't seem to be too much bother neither by his yusho leader position nor the ozeki perspective. Let's see if he remains so carefree until the end.

    Onosato is actually on an Ozeki run with a good chance to complete it this basho. Hiradoumi may have started one last basho, and only if he can get to Sekiwake this time.

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  7. Posted

    11 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

    It looks like 3 juryo spots will be opening up through injuries, and a few wrestlers at the lower end of the division have got off to poor starts: I'm guessing that 5-2 would do the trick.

    Looks like Kaisho should be his next opponent on day 6...

  9. Posted

    3 hours ago, Kachikoshi said:

    I have an outrageously inconsequential topic to discuss concerning what happens if exactly one person enters maezumo.

    As far as I can tell, this hasn't happened since the 1940s.

  11. Posted

    10 hours ago, Kaito said:

    Yeah, I thought Tobizaru had obviously won live. But not a single person from a group sitting ringside thinks it's even worth another look. That call could easily determine the yusho.

    Yeah, I really, really hope it doesn't.

  15. Posted

    1 hour ago, Yarimotsu said:

    Before I vote, perhaps a little discussion on how I browse this forum. In the first month I discovered this haven of sumo information, I was kind of put off by the old-fashioned forum interface that buries information behind many clicks. Since then, I have figured out that the pace of this forum as a whole is very manageable and have been browsing at least once a day via a bookmark to the "Activity" or "discover" page, which simply lists all thread activity across the forum for me to pick and choose what I read as I like.

    Does anyone else browse this way? Are there advantages to actually interfacing with the category system I am missing?

    Thanks

    Yeah I just browse via "Unread Content" except for a couple of individual topics I want to follow closely during a basho, like Promotion/Demotion.

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  16. Posted

    Hi all, having sat out the last 3 tournaments and considered my situation carefully, I am hereby declaring my intai from this game (Bow...) I enjoyed playing for the last few years, and learned a lot about how the torikumi gets put together, but I simply no longer have the time to devote to playing a daily game at the highest level. It was an honor to reach the highest rank, and I am happy to go out with a yusho in the last basho I was able to finish. I will still be on the forum and will lurk in this thread, especially when contemplating torikumi options late in a basho. And I am not ruling the possibility that some day, Reonito II might make an appearance in mae-zumo. But for now, (Sadgoodbyes...)

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  17. Posted

    1 hour ago, Joaoiyama said:

    I never understood why the hardest training sessions come at the week before the basho, i feel like they should rest the week before the basho and only keep the body fit. In most combat sports the bulk of the hard training is done about four to two weeks before the day of the fight, last week meant only to recover and keep the motors going. 

    In sumo it's the total opposite, even worse because it's 15 straight days. It'll never change though so no reason to overthink about it.

    Maybe this'll be part of Nakamura beya's more modern approach, along with eating breakfast, taking rest days, etc.

  18. Posted

    3 hours ago, Tochinofuji said:

    Looks like we haven't had a komosubi promoted directly to ozeki since 1938, so would be interesting to see. 

    Not gonna happen. In the very specific and highly unlikely scenario in which he gets exactly 10 at Aki, misses out on promotion due to lack of openings, and then goes nuts and gets 13+ at Kyushu to go 33/3, they'll be perfectly happy asking for another double-digit basho at sekiwake at Hatsu.

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  22. Posted

    16 minutes ago, Wakawakawaka said:

    I think it would be fun to have a post-GTB poll to present the headscratcher award.. there's always at least one, and there's plenty of candidates this time around.

    I nominate Nishikifuji.

    He's the clear winner, closely followed by Hokutofuji.

  23. Posted

    Okay, I did the search by hand. Since 1958, we've had a handful of rikishi moving from the east to the west side with a 6-9 (most recently, Kotoshoho in 2023). But keeping the exact same rank happened only 3 times before this banzuke: Kainoyama M8w in 1962, Hirowaka M4w in 1967, and Tochinohada M14w 2011 (the technical examination tournament). So you have to either go back ~six decades or look at the basho* right after a bunch of rikishi were forcibly retired for match-fixing to find a precedent for what they did with Hokutofuji and Nishikifuji.

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  24. Posted

    1 hour ago, Asashosakari said:

    Elsewhere I offered the half-serious theory a few weeks ago that the ridiculously small demotions we've been seeing the last few years are their attempt to have some sort of kosho replacement, the logic being that "MK = was more injured than the average rikishi" holds true in most cases these days.

    But not for those whose injuries were actually severe enough to sit out some bouts I guess...

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