Reonito

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  1. 1 hour ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

    I was going to make the same point, but it can happen if the bottom falls out of juryo as it did in January 2015 and January 2018. That's only twice in 60+ basho so I guess "extremely unlikely" is the appropriate term. He might also be helped if a couple of kabu-owning wrestlers in juryo decide to hang up their mawashi.

    Yeah, I was reacting to: "Six wins or better in May ought to be enough for the Isenoumi stable youngster to reach jūryō"

    We know it's possible, but it's certainly unlikely, though we can quibble about the most appropriate intensifier to put in front of "unlikely"


  2. 3 hours ago, Fashiritētā said:

    Part of his punishment for bullying perhaps.

    I don't think so; they can rank guys on the low end of "normal" banzuke math for that, but not break things like "you shouldn't be ranked lower than a guy who was ranked lower than you and had the same record." As @Bunbukuchagama says, they can ensure a big demotion by making him sit out.


  3. 10 hours ago, Hoshotakamoto said:

    Here's the final - actual - list of promotions for makushita. All signs point to them targeting a cohesive set of promotions for 4-3, 5-2, 6-1, 2-5, etc and then just filling empty spots with whoever is available that had a 3-win MK.

    The demotions look a lot more uniform across the division than the promotions, which get bigger as the ranks get lower.


  4. 8 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

    Biggest surprise for me is dropping Daiamami in favour of Tomokaze.

    Or was it in favor of Takarafuji? Daiamami was (just) demotable by the numbers, and the other two were (just) promotable ... maybe a coin flip, but not a big surprise, especially since otherwise they'd have to decide which one of them to promote.


  5. 8 hours ago, Gurowake said:

    I accept the fact that at least in English the same word is used for both, but is this the case for other languages?

    In Russian "сон" is "dream" in the sleep sense but "мечта" is "dream" in the "personal aspiration" or "fantasy" sense.

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  6. 9 hours ago, Yarimotsu said:

    Following Godango's lead I won't quote the whole thing, but just wanted to say I was happy to read your contribution even if Asashosakari immediately had a correction to make. Explorations of the more historical side of sumo are exactly the kind of thing this discussion should promote (to me, anyway) and while your eventual approach is effectively the opposite of the one I came to use I think it's probably more of a true comparison.

    I think there's a dichotomy here between what the actual Mount Rushmore represents and what people mean when they say "The Mount Rushmore of X", which pretty much universally means the four greatest of all time, regardless of whether or not that's a historically accurate metaphor. E.g., Google Mt. Rushmore of basketball and you get Wilt, Russel, Kareem, and Jordan, with occasional suggested substitutions, but you don't get James Naismith, who invented the sport, or other central early figures. So if people interpret the question as the four greatest wrestlers of all time, or of a certain era, or of the ones they've seen fight, that's perfectly consistent with how the term is generally used.

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  7. 3 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

    Well, we had K Abi against M10 Mitakeumi and M12 Shonannoumi last basho, and that didn't appear particularly unusual.

    They were both technically in the yusho race late and so got pulled up. In the 144 basho since 2000, only 33 had a meeting between a komusubi and someone ranked M10-M12. Most of those had only one such meeting; there were only 9 basho with 2 or 3, including this past one...


  8. On 20/03/2024 at 10:37, Katooshu said:

    From not being able to win a title in high school or college, not even getting a single sandanme tsukedashi qualification, to blasting out makuuchi elite like nothing. Incredible transformation for Takerufuji since turning pro. My only worry is that his traps may soon swallow his head.

    What were his best results in college in terms of SdTD qualification? I recall reading that he beat Nakamura/Onosato a couple of times; was that in smaller tournaments or earlier rounds?