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Posts posted by Reonito
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1. They haven't said a word about it (unlike in Terunofuji's case). 2. The Kyokai is loath to do anything they've never done before. 3. Daieisho only has 3 prior san'yaku appearances, 2 ending in MK, with the most recent being a 5-10 campaign at Sekiwake, and has never been mentioned in the same sentence as "Ozeki" before, so he is not the kind of rikishi who's likely to get the benefit of the doubt.
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31 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:The one counter there is that his M1w rank this time was something of a false rank.
I don't think it works that way. Rank is rank, and there's no "memory" in the system of the circumstances under which it was achieved. Wakahanada was very unlucky to go from M4 to M3 after a 9-6, and could have easily made san'yaku on a different banzuke, but them's the breaks. In his case, a 14-1 yusho wasn't enough to force the issue; I wasn't following then but I doubt it even came up.
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1 hour ago, robnplunder said:I think they may open up an extra spot for Daieisho in the next basho. That will be my GTB play.
There's absolutely no question they will. I believe @Asashosakari concurs.
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1 hour ago, Jakusotsu said:Still, Daieisho might be a special case because he'd be Komusubi if not for extremely bad banzuke luck.
If it's not on the banzuke, it didn't happen.
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31 minutes ago, Kashunowaka said:I wonder what happens if Daieisho wins tomorrow and then gets say 12 wins next time from sekiwake?
There's never been an Ozeki promotion in the 6 basho era without at least the last two tournaments ranked in san'yaku. The closest parallel is Wakahanada in 1992-1993, who went M4 9-6, M3 10-5, K 14-1 Y and did not get promoted. He also went S 10-5 in the following basho without getting promoted, before finally forcing the issue with S 13-2 D. So I say not before May.
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3 hours ago, Sakura said:You should have taken the hail mary
Went with probability over intuition but at least my non-pick was on the record.
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8 minutes ago, Gurowake said:Also, a tomosen gives a very slight advantage to the 2 people in the first bout
There's actually a whole research paper about it!
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23 hours ago, Reonito said:While I'm at it, and assuming it's not against the rules, I'm going to pencil in
15. Tamawashi
I guess, with Endo also taken, I'll just stick with this and take the likely tie, rather than throw a Hail Mary like Ichinojo (who is hard to throw ).
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Newbie question here, but how do the final results this time translate into the rankings for the next basho? Trying to figure out the risk/reward ratio for my possible picks.
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looks like you need to trim some text from yesterday's post from the end of today's
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While I'm at it, and assuming it's not against the rules, I'm going to pencil in
15. Tamawashi
But I reserve the right to change my mind based on Day 13 results and Day 14 torikumi.
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Tamawashi makes a lot of sense, but it sounds like I'm supposed to pick someone different than the other co-leaders, so let's go with
14. Endo
(I'm 17 time zones behind Japan)
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The wildcard is what to do with Tochinoshin.
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13. Tokushoryu
I can see what @Gurowake is thinking though, and it wouldn't surprise me if the Kyokai did something else entirely.
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8 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:What? I'm not refusing to entertain the notion that he could finish 0-15, but that he could actually get demoted on it. Losing today, or tomorrow, or the day after, isn't going to change that.
I see. Recent precedents aren't super-encouraging, but they all involve withdrawals, so who knows.
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Trying to work out my pick but the db is down.
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19 hours ago, Asashosakari said:With him having 14 ranks to spare, I'm refusing to acknowledge that as a possibility.
Tick-tock. (I like him and sincerely hope he can pick up the one win he requires, and ideally a couple more for good measure.)
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Kachi-koshi!
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4 hours ago, Asashosakari said:Three low-ranked maegashira entered Day 10 with the opportunity to save themselves (at least by the numbers),
Isn't winless Kotoshoho also still in danger of demotion, despite being all the way up at M3?
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12. Tochinoshin
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13 minutes ago, Yamanashi said:1:15 Shonanzakura stands, hugs his opponent, and gets waltzed to the edge; then gives a little head shrug like "well, better luck next time".
The name change really did wonders for him
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11. Takarafuji
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26 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:Joke theft! I made an unappreciated joke about his akua-marine mawashi in November.
I think he knows full-well: "His shikona is a reference to the Aqua World aquarium in his home town."
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2021 "Kozumo" Hatsu Basho discussion thread
in Honbasho Talk
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Fair enough, though that's literally never been done by someone ranked below Ozeki in both tournaments.