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Posts posted by Reonito
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And oh yeah,
13. Daieisho
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3 minutes ago, Gurowake said:I've never read the source material, but I like the idiom.
It's good if you like scifi #offtopic
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Apparently the shimpan were mentioning Terunofuji-Abi
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3 minutes ago, Gurowake said:On the gripping hand
A Mote reference!!!
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22 minutes ago, Gurowake said:After that it doesn't seem plausible. (Sadanoumi - M12e, Chiyoshoma - M12w, Kotonowaka - M13e still have tiny chances if enough spots open up and they win out)
I've provisionally kept just Chiyoshoma on my list, as he's sort of in the joi.
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6 minutes ago, Sue said:Why are Fukai and Kanno at two wins out? They're outside the Ms5 promotion zone, and should have needed a zensho to advance.
There are exceptions, when they really need to fill slots in juryo.
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The nightmare scenario if they don't promote Mitakeumi this time is neither he nor either of the current Ozeki get 8 next time (and Takanosho's "run" fizzles) ... it's really hard to see who'd be the second Y/O in May.
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6 hours ago, Ryoshishokunin said:November (not in Kyushu)
O Takakeisho → M4 Tobizaru (9) →K Terunofuji (10) → End (Loss in playoff to Takakeisho doesn't count, right?)I thought we decided playoffs count, but I may be misremembering @Eikokurai
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50 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:if we take for granted that Shodai will lose all remaining bouts - he is not yet kadoban
lose one of his remaining bouts—he's at 7 losses
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Day 11
San'yaku: K1w Daieisho (3-8) has opened up the first slot. K1e Meisei (4-7) is within one loss of opening a second, and faces the Yokozuna tomorrow. With S1e Mitakeumi at 10-1 and S1w Takanosho at 6-5 with some tough bouts to come, the possibility of all four slots coming open is still very much alive. M6w Abi (9-2) is the leading promotion contender, and he faces Takanosho tomorrow.
Juryo: J2e Kotoshoho (9-2) is the first to stake a real promotion claim. J1e Kagayaki (7-4) is one win away from joining him and would of course have top priority with a KK. Absent Hidenoumi's Makuuchi slot is the only one available at the moment, but Tsurugisho, Kaisei and Chiyonokuni all need more wins than losses from here on out to be safe.
Makushita: Everyone who was in action today and needed a win got one, which means we still have 6 rikishi ranked in the top 10 with a shot at promotion. Ms5e Ryuden (6-0) continued his march through the third division by defeating Akiseyama; his opponent in the yusho-deciding bout will be collegian Ms35 Nishikawa. Ms2w Shimazuumi (4-2) has clinched a salaried slot by blowing away J13 Kotoyusho; he can finish no worse than 3rd in the promotion queue. Ms3e Takakento will have his fate decided tomorrow when he visits Juryo to take on Hiradoumi. Ms1w Atamifuji (3-3) will be first or second in line with a win, but eliminated with a loss. Ms4w Tochimaru (4-2) probably needs help from others, although a win would go a long way to help his chances, while Ms4e Kairyu (3-3) must win and hope for losses by others. J13 Chiyoarashi (2-9) lost today, ensuring that a 4th slot is available if needed.
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I don't like where this is going
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Ryuden should be ahead of Karyu no matter what, and he'll be ahead of Tochimaru if the latter loses. With 4 likely promotion slots, I think the only way he misses out is if he somehow loses both of his remaining bouts, Atamifuji wins, Shimazuumi and Takakeknto get their KK, and Tochimaru wins out. Or if Chiyoarashi wins out, leaving one less slot, but I'm guessing the scheduling will not make all of this possible.
Broadly agree on the rest; I'll chime in as the various exchange pictures get a little clearer in a day or two. I think Kotoshoho's done enough already, unless he completely collapses again and a lot of other results go against him.
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2 hours ago, Sakura said:I remember explaining the schedule on Tachiai during Tochinoshin's Ozeki run in an effort to counter some misinformation about scheduling, but I'm not sure the person who posts the bout previews noticed.
I've tried too, but I think my fellow blogger likes the idea of narrative-driven scheduling too much.
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Yeah, now it's 12. Shodai
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11. Meisei
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4 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:Tamanoumi’s zensho at M14 must have been the easiest ever. He faced only two sanyaku guys: a Komusubi and a Sekiwake.
Looking at that banzuke, the scheduling must have worked very differently in 1957, as they had plenty of higher-ranked options to throw at him.
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10. Mitakeumi (though the other popular choice is totally plausible also)
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9. Terunofuji
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51 minutes ago, Oshirokita said:8. Mitakeumi
I can see how Tamawashi is also likely, but I am puzzled by how the Day 13 & 14 sanyaku match(es) will go if so.
I feel like there are a couple of scheduling options that lead to Mitakeumi, and only one that leads to Tamawashi, though I don't know if it's fair to treat them all as equally likely.
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I still think it's more likely to be
8. Mitakeumi
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1 hour ago, Godango said:They may well want a third basho from him even though he hit 33, as they did with Takakeisho when they deemed his 9-13Y-11J to be not impressive enough.
At that point, Takakeisho had only been in the top division for 2 years, and had a total of 4 san'yaku appearances, the first of which ended after a 5-10 performance at komusubi. I think that's why they asked for another double-digit performance. Mitakeumi is pretty much the polar opposite of this scenario.
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Hmm, I think I see what my fellow yokozuna are thinking, and I'll probably regret this, but:
7. Ichinojo
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Well, it sure isn't boring anymore.
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32 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:sometimes 32 is enough, sometimes 34 isn't
The only time 34 over 3 basho in san'yaku wasn't enough was when Miyabiyama was trying to regain the rank. Otherwise, it's been a stone-cold guarantee.
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Hatsu 2022 discussions (results)
in Honbasho Talk
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It hasn't been tested, at least not since 1958. The only time the Y/O numbers dropped as low as 2 was Hatsu 1993, and Takanohana was (uncontroversially) promoted after that basho.