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  1. 9 hours ago, Yarimotsu said:

    Following Godango's lead I won't quote the whole thing, but just wanted to say I was happy to read your contribution even if Asashosakari immediately had a correction to make. Explorations of the more historical side of sumo are exactly the kind of thing this discussion should promote (to me, anyway) and while your eventual approach is effectively the opposite of the one I came to use I think it's probably more of a true comparison.

    I think there's a dichotomy here between what the actual Mount Rushmore represents and what people mean when they say "The Mount Rushmore of X", which pretty much universally means the four greatest of all time, regardless of whether or not that's a historically accurate metaphor. E.g., Google Mt. Rushmore of basketball and you get Wilt, Russel, Kareem, and Jordan, with occasional suggested substitutions, but you don't get James Naismith, who invented the sport, or other central early figures. So if people interpret the question as the four greatest wrestlers of all time, or of a certain era, or of the ones they've seen fight, that's perfectly consistent with how the term is generally used.

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  2. 3 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

    Well, we had K Abi against M10 Mitakeumi and M12 Shonannoumi last basho, and that didn't appear particularly unusual.

    They were both technically in the yusho race late and so got pulled up. In the 144 basho since 2000, only 33 had a meeting between a komusubi and someone ranked M10-M12. Most of those had only one such meeting; there were only 9 basho with 2 or 3, including this past one...

  3. On 20/03/2024 at 10:37, Katooshu said:

    From not being able to win a title in high school or college, not even getting a single sandanme tsukedashi qualification, to blasting out makuuchi elite like nothing. Incredible transformation for Takerufuji since turning pro. My only worry is that his traps may soon swallow his head.

    What were his best results in college in terms of SdTD qualification? I recall reading that he beat Nakamura/Onosato a couple of times; was that in smaller tournaments or earlier rounds?

  4. 5 minutes ago, Atenzan said:

    As I recall, I was completely stumped by that decision. I wonder what his average rank was in that basho's GTB guesses, which are invariably better than whatever crap the Kyokai comes up with ;-).

    If I can read my old spreadsheet, I think I had him at M2, can't tell which side

  5. 6 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

    It's MUCH easier to win Makushita when you are in its lower half.

    Maybe in theory, but in practice, since 2000, 96 winners have come from Ms1-Ms30 and 47 from Ms31-Ms60. Ms1-Ms5 alone was 36. Speaks to the higher quality in the upper half.

  6. It's pretty slim pickings for the top 10; here's what I've been able to scrape together:

    • Juryo: Akua (for sure), Kitaharima (for lack of better options)
    • Ms1-Ms5 KK: Kayo, Nabatame
    • 6-1: Ms13 Daiseizan (next is Ms22)
    • 5-1: Ms6 Kototebakari, Ms8 Kiryuko, Ms15 Otsuji (?) (next is Ms17)
    • 4-3: Ms7 Kotokuzan, Ms8 Daishomaru (next is Ms9)