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Promotion/Demotion and Yusho Discussion Kyushu 2025
Reonito replied to Tigerboy1966's topic in Honbasho Talk
On the Juryo side, we have injury victim Mita, who is ticketed for a division drop all the way from J3e. Beyond the above-mentioned Himukamaru, the other most-endangered incumbents are J10w Tohakuryu (3-7), J14e Shiden (5-5), and J10e Hakuyozan (3-7), who need 3 wins apiece for mathematical safety, though 2 wins will probably end up being enough in practice. -
Promotion/Demotion and Yusho Discussion Kyushu 2025
Reonito replied to Tigerboy1966's topic in Honbasho Talk
In Makushita, Ms3w Dewanoryu (5-1) now has the first promotion zone record that's guaranteed to compute into Juryo after he defeated endangered incumbent J13e Himukamaru (2-8), who can't afford any more losses. Ms1w Kyokukaiyu (3-2) can join him tomorrow by beating Ms5e Kazuto (3-2). Ms1e Takakento (2-3) and Ms15w Kazuma (5-0) must win tomorrow to stay in contention. Even two wins by Ms2e Otsuji (2-3) may well not be enough, while everyone else is either mathematically or effectively out of the picture. -
Promotion/Demotion and Yusho Discussion Kyushu 2025
Reonito replied to Tigerboy1966's topic in Honbasho Talk
It's pretty likely that there won't be a ton of promotion pressure anyway. Kyokukaiyu and Dewanoryu are the only guys in the promotion zone who could potentially afford another loss, and even they would be left with marginal cases unless they win out. -
Juryo: 32 instances of 14-1, 5 instances of 15-0 (6.4 ratio). Makuuchi: 203 instances of 14-1, 78 instances of 15-0 (2.6 ratio).
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I didn't want to jinx him. And yeah, even Terunofuji didn't manage a juryo zensho, going 13-2 and then 10-5 before his 13-2 makuuchi yusho from M17.
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Maybe that's why none of the replays showed that angle Although after they didn't call hansoku in the famous Ama v Goeido "that right hand is a bit of a worry" bout, I think it's a foul on paper only. I've actually never seen hansoku called for anything other than a hair pull, despite the long list of kinjite.
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Promotion/Demotion and Yusho Discussion Kyushu 2025
Reonito replied to Tigerboy1966's topic in Honbasho Talk
Aki champion Ms2w Shimazuumi is 1-4, Ms3e Endo retired, Ms4e Daiamami is 0-5, while Ms4w Miyanokaze is 2-3, and even a 4-3 final score is very unlikely to see him go up from that rank. -
Promotion/Demotion and Yusho Discussion Kyushu 2025
Reonito replied to Tigerboy1966's topic in Honbasho Talk
On the makushita side, no clear promotion cases yet. I have Ms1w Kyokukaiyu (3-2) as one win away, as well as Ms3w Dewanoryu (4-1), the only kachi-koshi in the promotion zone. Dewanoryu will try to bolster his case on day 10 when he visits juryo to fight J13e Himukamaru (2-7), currently the most endangered incumbent. Ms1e Takakento (2-3) and Ms15w Kazuma (5-0) are in the same position: they go up if they win out, but any loss drops them from consideration. Ms5w Seihakuho (3-1) can stay in the running for a numerical promotion case by beating Ms10e Kotokenryu tomorrow; Ms2e Otsuji (2-3) and Ms5e Kazuto (2-2) must win out and hope for favorable banzuke luck, while everyone else is either mathematically or effectively out of the picture. -
Any chance of a peek at Takahara's next bout? I generally don't get to see anyone below makushita.
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Total Juryo 15-0 yusho: five. Makuuchi rikishi with five or more 15-0 yusho: five.
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A totally resistible force meets an immovable object
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Thank you for the Kaki bonus!
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Math checks out, 5 basho for a komusubi run.
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Oh, it makes complete sense, I'm just shocked it got said publicly. I don't remember such comments about e.g. ex-Terunofuji when he was fighting Jonidan opponents at the start of his comeback.
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This is one of the most remarkable comments I've ever seen.
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All sorts of career trajectories out there, we'll only know which ones our two current yokozuna are on with the passage of time. Personally, I'd love to see both compete at high fitness as often as possible and for as long as possible.
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Okay, sub in Chiyonofuji and his 1-2-12 "floor." Seriously though, I'd separate the frequency of being injured from performance when fit to fight, though obviously both are factors in the overall career success.
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Promotion/Demotion and Yusho Discussion Kyushu 2025
Reonito replied to Tigerboy1966's topic in Honbasho Talk
Fujiryoga? The recently retired Endo is the only guy to ever get promoted from that low a rank, but if he can run the table... -
I mean, if you count absences, Hakuho's "Yokozuna floor" was 0-0-15
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I wonder if Aonishiki was taking notes.
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Hoshoryu's absences undoubtedly play into it, but in the last 4 basho each completed, the score lines are Hoshoryu 13, 12, 12, 13 and Onosato 12, 14, 11, 13. Onosato has 3 yusho though, to Hoshoryu's 1.
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Promotion/Demotion and Yusho Discussion Kyushu 2025
Reonito replied to Tigerboy1966's topic in Honbasho Talk
The earliest the topic has been started in my memory, but I'm here for it. -
If possible, a bonus Kaki bout video would be greatly appreciated.
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"No room for error" is a rather extreme way of putting "can afford another loss and still assure himself of no worse than a playoff if the other contenders run the table."
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We all saw that one coming, right?