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Everything posted by Reonito
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It's only happened 3 times, the example would be from the 1930's which I don't put any stock in, two more recent instances were 1985 when they were more generous with extra ranks, and 2007 when there was an opening. But just like not re-ranking komusubi based on wins, I think we can infer they wouldn't feel the need to force it.
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they absolutely can if he gets exactly 10 and there's no opening
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He's the clear winner, closely followed by Hokutofuji.
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Okay, I did the search by hand. Since 1958, we've had a handful of rikishi moving from the east to the west side with a 6-9 (most recently, Kotoshoho in 2023). But keeping the exact same rank happened only 3 times before this banzuke: Kainoyama M8w in 1962, Hirowaka M4w in 1967, and Tochinohada M14w 2011 (the technical examination tournament). So you have to either go back ~six decades or look at the basho* right after a bunch of rikishi were forcibly retired for match-fixing to find a precedent for what they did with Hokutofuji and Nishikifuji.
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But not for those whose injuries were actually severe enough to sit out some bouts I guess...
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I can't even think of a 6-9 non-demotion at any Makuuchi rank aside from one guy on the 2011 scandal banzuke.
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I think you predicted this almost exactly
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There's another hypothesis that I won't go into here but I also guessed they wouldn't reorder them.
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Also 58, every guess was either a bullseye or a complete miss. I have some many questions. Is this a new banzuke committee? Did anyone even consider Nishikifuji staying?
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Oh man, GTB is only nerd level 5?
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I recall it just hung instead of taking me to the new page; just tried it now and it took me there fine
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Oh I hadn't noticed that Asanoyama only had 14 bouts on the helper!
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debatable
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Leeway as in staying in Makuuchi? I don't think there's any chance that happens with 3 wins at M12. If they don't want to promote Kitanowaka, they can keep Chiyoshoma. And while it's a secondary consideration in this case, why give a Makuuchi slot to someone who's guaranteed not to fight in September?
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I think Ryan weighs the notion of a "Juryo joi" a lot more heavily in his predictions.
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I know; I wasn't going to get into nationality/residence/ancestry...
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I guess this depends on the definition of "Western."
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The link isn't working for me. I remember @Chiyotasuke had an issue with his github page and set up an alternative for July, but I don't remember where that alternative is...
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Because sitting out one tournament would only drop him to Sd40 instead of having to start at Sd90?
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Interesting! I wonder if Chargaff read his work!
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The version I know is: "That...such giant shadows are cast by such pygmies only shows how late in the day it has become". -Erwin Chargaff.
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He looked a little light in his one loss to Hitoshi; it'll be interesting to see how he fares against bigger guys. Given the rest of the records, I think he's likely to be in the promotion zone, Ms4/Ms5.
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Assuming I didn't miss any, this is the 5th basho in the 6-basho era with all 5 S/K having winning records (joining 1969.11. 1970.01, 2000.03, and 2021.03). There are other basho with 5 kachi-koshi S/K, and one with 6, but they all had other S/K who went make-koshi.
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My mistake, fixed, thanks!
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Yeah, E over W might not be enough to overcome J6 vs J10 ... but the whole thing might perplex them enough to save Onosho