Yamanashi

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  1. Yamanashi

    Natsu 2022 Discussion Thread - here be spoilers

    I assume that's a joke? Less pay each basho, never a chance at kensho. etc., etc. And after all that someone notes your Ironman stay in Juryo and the reply is "well, that's pretty pathetic after all, isn't it?"
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    Natsu 2022 Discussion Thread - here be spoilers

    "Bard: n, a poet"
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    Kabu-worthy Sekitori

    Sorry if this has been compiled already. Also, please move it to where it needs to be ... As far as I can tell, the current rules for being eligible for toshiyori status are : 1) have at least one basho as San'yaku; 2) have at least 20 basho in Makuuchi; 3) have at least 30 basho as Sekitori (Makuuchi + Juryo) Based upon the current banzuke, there are 4 rikishi eligible under criterion 1 only (Wakatakakage, Hoshoryu, Kiribayama and Takanosho), 7 rikishi eligible under criterion 3 only (Terutsuyoshi, Azumaryu, Daiamami, Akiseyama, Chiyonoo, Fujiazuma and Kyukutaisei), and 16 eligible under all three criteria. A total of 40 rikishi are eligible to look for a kabu (Endo and Okinoumi already own one, according to the db). Of course, there aren't enough to go around.
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    Kabu-worthy Sekitori

    It would be a horrible thing if Shohozan were to come up dry; almost 70 basho as a sekitori and a Komosubi five different times over five years.
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    Kabu-worthy Sekitori

    Did I miss something (computer: "yeah, dummy!") or haven't we talked about Oitekazebeya? Ex-Daishoyama was born in 1966, so not going anywhere soon. Meanwhile, Daieisho (28), Tsurugisho (30), Daishomaru (30) and Daiamami (29) are already eligible, and Tobizaru (30) and Daishoho (Mongolian, 27) are knocking on the door. Endo already owns a kabu, so he's set, and he seems to be in auto-mode at M4±4 into the future. Since there are so many eligibles and no in-house kabu for ten years, there should be some drama, yes?
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    Kabu-worthy Sekitori

    My point is that if we consider 40 "kabu-ready" rikishi and say that there are years and years to absorb them, we'll find that there are maybe 50 or 60 in a decade. I think there will always be too many I've often wondered whether the criteria are too strict or too lenient. Then I see that there are wiggle-room clauses (28 sekitori basho instead of 30, e.g., for an in-house takeover), and I have begun to realize that none of these kabu-worthies are guaranteed anything; so, as long as there are too many candidates instead of too few, there will be enough candidates to pick and choose (and wheel and deal).
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    Natsu 2022 Discussion Thread - here be spoilers

    Besides, there may be a different set of shimpan the next time. "Adjusting karma" over the next few bouts would need coordination at the group level; I assume we're not suggesting that.
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    Kabu-worthy Sekitori

    Ah, yes, but the inflow is not stopped. Tobizaru and Shimanoumi could be eligible by January, and Enho, Yago, Ura, ... are in the chute.
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    Kabu-worthy Sekitori

    Jeez, I go pick my son up from work, and when I come back there's a whole cottage industry going on here! Thanks, and I feel like maybe it was worth doing.
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    Kabu-worthy Sekitori

    That could be; I am completely swamped when it comes to the kabu wheeling and dealing because of my nonexistent Nihongo-worthiness. Of course, one can look at the kabu list in the db and see who is near 70 when they can't fight off retirement anymore, and it's more likely a kabu will be passed on to a heya member if possible.
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    Kabu-worthy Sekitori

    Actually: Mitakeumi, Takakeisho, Shodai, Takayasu, Tochinoshin (foreign devil).
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    Kabu-worthy Sekitori

    Oh, I didn't count anyone who had been Ozeki, because they were obvious.
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    Kabu-worthy Sekitori

    I haven't flagged Japanese citizenship status because I'm only considering eligibility by record; it doesn't seem to me that I should keep Aoiyama off this list from January 2015 until March 2022 when he received Japanese citizenship. My purpose was to celebrate the end of semester and cessation of 12 hours a day of grading. Also, the forum chatter about Kaisei made me wonder about how big the potential input end of the supply chain might be. I had forgotten that the best way to get on the list for consideration was to simply have a meteoric rise to Komosubi, then hang around to get thirty basho as a sekitori to pad your resume (I'm thinking about Jokoryu, who maxed at Komosubi, but has never been ranked at M1, M2 or M3). My first impression was that there are more of these guys than I thought.
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    Kabu-worthy Sekitori

    This is how I did it: I looked for Career high in Makuuchi down to J1 (I may have missed someone who spent 31 basho in Juryo only). There were 60 candidates High Mak. Juryo Sekit. San- 20 30 rikishi rank basho basho basho yaku? Mak.? Sek.? Wakatakakage S 13 11 24 1 Abi S 20 10 30 1 1 1 Hoshoryu K 11 4 15 1 Daieisho S 37 10 47 1 1 1 Ichinojo S 43 5 48 1 1 1 Kiribayama K 14 5 19 1 Kotonowaka M2 12 5 17 Hokutofuji K 33 2 35 1 1 1 Tamawashi S 76 9 85 1 1 1 Endo K 51 2 53 1 1 1 Takanosho S 17 10 27 1 Onosho K 29 14 43 1 1 1 Tobizaru M2 11 15 26 Ura M1 11 10 21 Wakamotoharu M6 3 12 15 Takarafuji S 62 7 69 1 1 1 Kotoeko M4 20 17 37 1 1 Shimanoumi M3 18 8 26 Terutsuyoshi M3 19 12 31 1 Kotoshoho M3 7 8 15 Okinoumi S 71 6 77 1 1 1 Nishikigi M2 25 17 42 1 1 Aoiyama S 62 3 65 1 1 1 Chiyoshoma M2 27 11 38 1 1 Myogiryu S 60 6 66 1 1 1 Sadanoumi M1 40 18 58 1 1 Chiyotairyu K 55 7 62 1 1 1 Meisei S 21 10 31 1 1 1 Yutakayama M1 24 9 33 1 1 Azumaryu M14 8 44 52 1 Ichiyamamoto M14 5 6 11 Ishiura M5 26 17 43 1 1 Midorifuji M10 4 9 13 Kagayaki M3 35 10 45 1 1 Chiyomaru M5 29 23 52 1 1 Hidenoumi M6 12 33 45 1 Chiyonokuni M1 34 18 52 1 1 Tsurugisho M7 9 29 38 1 Mitoryu J1 0 26 26 Ryuden K 20 11 31 1 1 1 Akua M10 6 11 17 Daishoho M9 5 19 24 Daiamami M11 10 22 32 1 Enho M4 9 14 23 Yago M10 4 19 23 Tokushoryu M2 32 30 62 1 1 Kaisei S 60 10 70 1 1 1 Daishomaru M5 19 22 41 1 Shohozan K 51 17 68 1 1 1 Akiseyama M12 4 38 42 1 Tomokaze M3 5 4 9 Jokoryu K 15 17 32 1 1 Chiyonoo M14 4 39 43 1 Nionoumi M16 1 12 13 Kitaharima M15 1 25 26 Fujiazuma M4 17 21 38 1 Amakaze M13 1 18 19 Kyokutaisei M8 4 34 38 1 Yoshiazuma M12 3 18 21 Kagamio M9 7 14 21
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    Natsu 2022 Discussion Thread - here be spoilers

    Tokushoryu had a Yusho from J11e in Aki 2018, losing only to Hakuyozan, Enho, Wakatakakage and Daiamami.
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    Narutobeya happenings

    I follow Narutobeya on Twitter and Instagram, so I'm creating this topic to record my news and views (sometimes incorrect/lamebrain; that's why I've cordoned it off in its own topic!)
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    Narutobeya happenings

    Joining Narutobeya as manager is OKUYAMA Shota, 31, ex-Sadogatake rikishi Kotofukujuno (Ms17) who retired in 2020. He joins long-time manager Daigo Emoto, 38 (ex-Kotodaishin).
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    Natsu 2022 Discussion Thread - here be spoilers

    They've clearly practiced their "stern, slightly disapproving" look for shimpan duties. My favorite is Oshima/Kyokutenho; he often seems to have a wry smile as if saying to himself "what the hell was that?"
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    Ridiculous predictions Natsu 2022

    I hear you, brother. While not mathematically impossible, I suppose it's almost impossible structurally, since you'd need 21 7-8 records and 21 potential 8-7's who get beaten by 21 Juryo opponents in cross-division bouts. Pretty darn unlikely: the committee would have to see this coming by about day 9 and also the entire lower half of Makuuchi would be better (5-4) than the upper half (4-5) at that point. Meanwhile, the gap in Juryo would need to be huge (7-2 vs 2-7) so that the committee would start feeding the top Juryo onto the 5-4 lower-rank Makuuchi. All in all, it seems like one of those hoked-up "mate in 15" chess problems. Now, just because it can't happen doesn't mean that it shouldn't.
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    Natsu 2022 Discussion Thread - here be spoilers

    Do you mean Takayasu?
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    Ridiculous predictions Natsu 2022

    Actually, at the post-basho interview he was pretty upbeat, saying he's feeling positive about Nagoya, since he'd just gotten his MK without going kadoban.
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    Ridiculous predictions Natsu 2022

    Huh, "Kingston upon Hull". You probably saw the best building in the city from the inside (i.e., the jail). It's upriver, so twice as muddy, and there's more art at the Chemical Works than at the University (bunch of prats). [Actually, I've never been there].
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    Ridiculous predictions Natsu 2022

    In this unprecedented playoff scenario, it's decided to have a marathon round-robin to winnow out the competitors. Shodai goes 0-9.
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    Ridiculous predictions Natsu 2022

    One of the Tachiai podcasters notices the Englishman and turns to his mate saying, "Say, isn't that ... ?" "Nah", says the other, "he'd never travel more than fifty miles from Cleethorpes."
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    Have a go at a Haiku!

    "But the joi haven't fought the leaders yet!" Please, don't embarrass them more.