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    Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Hatsu 2020

    Going off of Asashosakari's examples 2 tournaments ago, Wakamotoharu defeated Kaisho on day 1, yet was still placed a half rank behind him on the next banzuke. And Akua defeated Kizakiumi in his fourth bought on day 6 (with the previous bout on day 5), so not a whole lot of rest, and ended up two ranks behind him. So Kizakiumi lost to Akua who lost to Wakamotoharu, and Wakamotoharu is still a full rank behind Kizakiumi. So no, I believe Asashosakari meant what he wrote. Given ( though, I would guess that this "rule" is either very new (looking at the actual 6-1 promotion in the 2013 result, I would guess this is not a new promotion criteria for 6-1 Ms wrestlers), or possibly only applicable to 6-1 and below scores or where the Juryo 8-7 is outside of the bottom two ranks ( (still, an 8-7 J12w with two of his winning scores against Ms opponents being ranked higher than an Ms1e 7-0? Highly divergent from the same in 2013 ).
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    Trump coming to the basho

    That closeup of Trump presenting Asanoyama with the trophy is the first picture I've seen of him that really shows how old he is.
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    Trump coming to the basho

    I'm glad it turned out acceptable. Hopefully this will be a positive for sumo in the US. I wish all of the commenters here could tolerate the anger and fear of fellow commenters against a polarizing powerful public figure instead of directly or indirectly making it personal against them. It's not as if the politicians are posting here, and thus in need of defense.
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    Trump coming to the basho

    When they could instead politely inform Trump that he will have to sit in the Emperor's box. Please stop inserting sumo into this political discussion.
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    The Wall - Never Makekoshi Rikishi

    Hypothetically, if a wrestler made it from jonokuchi to Ozeki or Yokozuna without MK, and then took a tournament off to recover, would this be considered hitting the wall?
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    Top 10 Sumo Records Haru 2019 Edition

    No where else relevant to put it: Hanakaze becomes the first active wrestler in 87 years to span an imperial era.
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    Banzuke Surfing Haru 2019 (15th Wave)

    Yeah, life was busy and I lost track of time. That's fine.
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    Banzuke Surfing Haru 2019 (15th Wave)

    Placeholders: Fighting: Denpoya Hiromasa Chiyooga Masaki Yoshimura Keita Injured: Terunofuji Haruo Amakaze Koichi Fukugoriki Hiroki
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    Hatsu 2019 Sansho

    1 2 3 4 Rikishi Date Rank Record Date Rank Record Date Rank Record Date Rank Record Miyabiyama 2006.03 K1w 10-5 2006.05 S1w 14-1 D 2006.07 S1e 10-5 2006.09 S1e 9-6 One of those last wins was a fusen. It happened a couple of times where the first 10+ result was from the joi: Terukuni 1940.01 M2e 12-3 J 1940.05 S2eHD 11-4 1941.01 S1w 12-3 1941.05 S1w 13-2 J Wakanohana 1993.01 M3e 10-5 1993.03 K1e 14-1 Y 1993.05 S1w 10-5 1993.07 S1e 13-2 D
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    Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Hatsu 2019

    Is this retired rikishi (oyakata) pretending they're daimyo, or is it in traditional in Japan for teachers and employers in general to have this sort of power?
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    Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Hatsu 2019

    I remember the board mentioning the surprise at the time. If true, that's a pretty sucky 'rumour'. I'd be a bit nonplussed if a coworker didn't mention they were getting married, but it's hardly an offense.
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    Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Hatsu 2019

    History also shows that for the first of those three Kaiho was not demoted. 9-6 Kakizoe M14 Kaiho 6-9 7-8 Tochiozan M15 Wakakirin 10-5 11-4 JK Baruto M16 Kasuganishiki 7-8 ↓ And there really wasn't anyone else who had close to a promotable record for the third of the three open slots (and none of the three open slots were even close to borderline, except the 7-8 in the last position on the Makuuchi rankings, but Kasuganishiki had already had banzuke luck the prior tournament with a 7-8 at M16e). Same with #2 - four must open slots in Makuuchi, and no one even close to promotable for the fourth position except the 13-2. The 201607 tournament was more of a gift. They maybe could have kept Osunaarashi or promoted Ura instead? Looking at search results though, if Ura at 10-5 at J8w wasn't promotable above Amakaze with 13-2 at J11w ( [note that Ura lost to Amakaze], yet Tokushoryo at J8e with an 11-4 was exchanged with Chiyotairyu with 6-9 in the fifth-to-the-bottom position of Makuuchi (, then maybe Shimanoumi with 13-2 at J11e is worth an exchange with Chiyoshoma with 6-9 in the fifth-to-the-bottom position of Makuuchi. Chiyoshoma did lose a bout with Ishiura (J3w), so an argument could be made for that being an exchange bout. Asashosakari has a ton more experience with these matters than I do, so let's see in a month.
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    Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Hatsu 2019

    Wow, I can't believe I overlooked that this was his first tournament as sekiwake. Thanks for the rationale Tiger Tanaka.
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    Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Hatsu 2019

    I just read the talk in the spoilers thread. Too bad for Takekeisho. At least he'll have a slightly easier time of it next basho. He's got 33 wins (no fusen) as san'yaku over the last three tournaments, including a yusho, why wouldn't he be promoted? Baruto didn't get it, but one of his wins was a fusen, bringing him down to 32 earned wins, and he had a big drop in his middle basho. Miyabiyama was a former Ozeki, so it makes sense they'd want to see if he had the staying power. Kotogahama had a record that was ratcheting down on a banzuke with 4 yokozuna and 3 ozeki already. And maybe things were different in 1957/8. 7/10 of the modern era wrestlers with K-S-S records of 33 (or below) were promoted to ozeki, including all of them who had a yusho in that streak. Plus with Takayasu and Goeido grinding, only 5 active Y/O (one of whom is kadoban), and the retirement of the only Japanese yokozuna, they need some excitement for the next basho. 1 2 3 4 Rikishi Date Rank Record Date Rank Record Date Rank Record Date Rank Record Dejima 1999.03 K1w 9-6 1999.05 S2e 11-4 1999.07 S1w 13-2 Y 1999.09 O2e 10-5 Takanosato 1981.09 K2wHD 10-5 1981.11 S1e 11-4 1982.01 S1e 12-3 J 1982.03 O1w 11-4 J Masuiyama 1979.09 K1e 8-7 1979.11 S1w 11-4 1980.01 S1e 12-3 J 1980.03 O1e 3-5-7 Kitanoumi 1973.09 K1e 8-7 1973.11 S1e 10-5 1974.01 S1e 14-1 Y 1974.03 O1e 10-5 Takanohana 1972.05 K1e 11-4 J 1972.07 S1w 12-3 J 1972.09 S1e 10-5 1972.11 O1w 9-6 Kiyokuni 1969.01 K1w 10-5 1969.03 S1w 9-6 1969.05 S1w 12-3 J 1969.07 O1e 12-3 Y Kotozakura 1967.05 K1e 10-5 1967.07 S1w 11-4 J 1967.09 S1e 11-4 1967.11 O2eHD 8-7 Mitsuneyama 1953.01 K2wHD 10-5 1953.03 S2eHD 11-4 1953.05 S1e 12-3 1953.09 O2eHD 8-7 Baruto 2009.09 K1e 12-3 2009.11 S1e 9-6 2010.01 S1e 12-3 J 2010.03 S1e 14-1 J Miyabiyama 2006.03 K1w 10-5 2006.05 S1w 14-1 D 2006.07 S1e 10-5 2006.09 S1e 9-6 Kotogahama 1957.05 K2wHD 12-3 J 1957.09 S2wHD 11-4 1957.11 S1e 10-5 1958.01 S1e 11-4
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    TORCHBEARER 2019: the picks, torch match notices, results

    So unless I missed something the torch is with jk16w Matsuyama, who is predicted to be around jd51 next basho: