Amamaniac

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    Basho Talk - Aki 2017 (SPOILERS)

    Aside from the fact that Terunofuji is kyujo, the other four sekitori from Isegahama all have the same win-loss records (7-4) as at Day 11. What are the odds of that? The main difference is that Harumafuji has virtually no chance of winning a championship in the Top Division, whereas both Ami-chan and Homarefuji have outside chances in Juryo...
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    Sansho Speculation

    I agree with your assessment, but Kotoshogiku has yet to get his KK. With a 6-4 record, it seems more than possible for him to KK. However, Kotoshogiku is running hot and cold. If he ends the tournament with a 11-4 record, I'd say he seals the deal. But 6-9 is also an outside possibility... (and that would take any prize off the table).
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    Basho Talk - Aki 2017 (SPOILERS)

    Four gold stars and counting. My earlier prediction stands: if Harumafuji reaches five gold stars, he may well kyujo. But I agree with you that the NSK would prefer to see him be around on the Senshuraku to fight Goeido thereby lending some legitimacy to a Goeido yusho (especially given that the competition was was not up to snuff this tournament).
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    Basho Talk - Aki 2017 (SPOILERS)

    Sorry if my use of the word "upset" upset you. The point I was trying to make was that up until Day 8, Daishomaru was leading the pack (along with Goeido and Onosho) with a 6-1 win-loss record. His loss to Takarafuji on Day 9 did lessen his hopes to a degree.
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    Basho Talk - Aki 2017 (SPOILERS)

    Looks like Chiyotairyu stole the show from Onosho(w). Meanwhile, Takarafuji upset Daishomaru (they usually appear together in Harumafuji's dohyoiri, but today Ishiura replaced Daishomaru), doing stablemate Harumafuji a solid, not to mention Goeido. Being the first to get a KK in this tournament, Goeido is definitely the one to beat. Those with 2 losses look solid going forward. Despite that, I'm still foolishly hopeful that Harumafuji (6-3) can pull off a miracle yusho victory. The pressure is on!
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    Basho Talk - Aki 2017 (SPOILERS)

    Totally agree with you regarding the reason Ikioi took the white star. The same thing happened when Ikioi upset Hakuho in March of this year (at least in that case a monoii was called). But I have to say that the judges in the tournament are getting lazy (less vigilant). Close decisions like that deserve a monoii. It's like the judges can't be bothered to stand up and climb up on the ring. With only 18 bouts (rather than the usual 21) per day, wasting time should not be an issue! The Takanoiwa v. Kagayaki bout was a virtual slap-fest (read harite). If you watch the end of the bout again, you'll see that Takanoiwa reached behind Kagayaki's neck and yanked, following through with an extra little shove. But Kagayaki was so tired and probably half unconscious by that point, that it didn't take much to send him flying off the ring. When I thought I'd seen my full of harite for one day, Harumafuji and Shohozan exchanged about six harite each in their bout. I'd say Harumafuji got the better of Shohozan in that exchange. Ideally, no Makushita wrestler would dare slap a Yokozuna. But then harites are not exactly considered Yokozuna sumo worthy either.
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    Basho Talk - Aki 2017 (SPOILERS)

    So Terunofuji's injury is going to cost him his Ozeki status. If I heard the announcement correctly, doctors are calling for two weeks of rest (Right, he'll be as good as new after that!). And what are the odds that the same wrestler (i.e., Shodai) gets a fuzen freebie from the same opponent two tournaments in a row. Here is another query for those who know how to mine the database: has it ever happened before?
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    Basho Talk - Aki 2017 (SPOILERS)

    Harumafuji has the distinction of handing out kinboshi like candy at Halloween! This may well turn out to be a record breaking tournament in this regard. Given all the wrestlers in the elite ranks who have withdrawn, if Harumafuji stays in the tournament, he will fight 10 Maegashira opponents. He has already fought four of those ten, and surrendered 3 kinboshi! At this rate, he will end the tournament having given up around 7 kinboshi. While I doubt things will get that bad, perhaps us armchair sumo wrestlers might like to predict what Harumafuji's final kinboshi total will be, or how many kinboshi will he surrender before he decides to withdraw himself... I predict Harumafuji will end up surrendering 5 kinboshi, and may well withdraw at that point. Kinboshi-streaks aside (thanks Asashosakari), what is the standing "total kinboshi" record for one Yokozuna in a given 15-day tournament?
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    Basho Talk - Aki 2017 (SPOILERS)

    As our attention is drawn to all the 4-0 Maegashira wrestlers making a charge for the championship (with Kotoshogiku making a comeback of sorts), the elite ranks are not living up to their hype. Harumafuji's chances to win his ninth yusho are rapidly fading. He can't even count on any help from stablemate, Terunofuji! The way things are going for the 25-year-old (i.e., Teru), he will probably lose his Ozeki status by the end of this tournament. It would be ironic if a former Ozeki wins the championship while another Ozeki becomes a former Ozeki... #WackyAki
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    Basho Talk - Aki 2017 (SPOILERS)

    As a Harumafuji superfan, I was disappointed with the result of his bout on Day 3. But I will be the first to admit he deserved the result that he got. There are a significant number of tournament bouts where wrestlers pull up and stop trying as though they were doing keiko practice. I view Harumafuji's bout versus Kotoshogiku as an example. But one would expect that a Yokozuna would know better, and fight no matter what. It was obvious that both wrestlers failed to drop their hands on the ring before the tach-ai, but that being said, Harumafuji led the charge and came up too high. I think that more than anything made him try to stop the bout on the basis of a matta. He even tried to "do a Hakuho" by raising his hand to get the referee's attention, all to no avail. To be fair, however, the JSA and shimpan have long been campaigning to ensure that wrestlers abide by the rule of dropping both hands before the initial charge. So when they themselves don't enforce the rule, it seems hypocritical.
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    Natsu jungyo 2017 goatalk

    Why is it that Ura is considered as a kanban rikishi? Clearly, I do not understand the special uses of the term "kanban"... ;-(
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    San-sho Speculation:

    I see from Asashosakari's link that there have been 8 occasions where a Maegashira has faced a Yokozuna in a playoff. I had completely forgotten about the November 2010 playoff between Toyonoshima and Hakuho. So, I checked who the Sansho candidates were in that tournament, and learned that despite being awarded both the Fighting Spirit and Technique Prizes, Toyonoshima was not being considered for the Outstanding Performance Prize, even if he were to have defeated Hakuho in the playoff! So my theory about Maegashira wrestlers who defeat Yokozunas in playoff bouts automatically qualifying for the Shukunsho/Outstanding Performance Prize is faulty. That is not to say that it shouldn't be made a rule, however. And even if it were a rule, history seems to suggest that it would never actually come into effect.
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    San-sho Speculation:

    Thanks for checking. But how many of those "sanyaku opponents" were actually Yokozunas? The answer should help determine if I am right about Maegashiras who win playoffs against Yokozunas automatically winning Shukunshos...
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    San-sho Speculation:

    The NHK broadcast definitely suggested that an Aoiyama senshuraku win would secure him a Shukunsho. Misleading, to say the least. However, it does make sense. First, you should realize that Aoiyama had not faced any Yokozunas in Nagoya, and thus was technically not eligible. However, if Hakuho had lost to Harumafuji, a playoff bout would have been held. Then, IF Aoiyama had defeated Hakuho, he would have qualified for Shukunsho consideration. This had to be included in the final day's Sansho announcements, because it was a (very outside) possibility. If ever a rank-and-file wrestler defeats a Yokozuna in a playoff bout, that would automatically qualify him for a Shukunsho. That makes perfect sense to me (now that I've let this percolate). So, for anyone who knows how to mine the database better than I, was there ever a playoff bout between a Maegashira wrestler and a Yokozuna, let alone a Maegashira defeating a Yokozuna in a playoff bout?
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    Day 15 pics Nagoya 2017

    Great spot! But time and time again, the referees and/or judges have turned a blind eye to this particular fault. It just encourages wrestlers to charge, and stretch out in an attempt to push their opponents out of the ring. Even the great Hakuho has benefited from the "ankle gimme".
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    Basho Talk - Nagoya 2017 (SPOILERS)

    Did anyone out there feel that the bout between Kotoshogiku and Hokutofuji deserved a monoii, and perhaps even a torinaoshi? The issue of shinitai could well enter into the determination, but as I saw it, Kotoshogiku was already on his way down while Hokutofuji was still upright and in the ring. It looked very similar to the Ikioi versus Hakuho bout back in March. At least, there the judges held a monoii. I have to say, the judges are not fulfilling their duties IMHO.
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    Quote of the Day-Nagoya 2017

    Kitamayama, were you able to catch Hakuho's NHK championship interview? Did his comments suggest anything about his plans to seek Japanese citizenship, or did they express more pride in his Mongol heritage?
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    Quote of the Day-Nagoya 2017

    Despite the disqualification, Daiamami managed to win three times on the final day, and steal the Juryo championship away from Asa-choke-yama! Not sure whether to be impressed with Daiamami or dispise him for using a kinjite (against the beloved Aminishiki to boot)!
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    Basho Talk - Nagoya 2017 (SPOILERS)

    Tochiozan will be fighting in the Koreyori Sanyaku in the senshuryaku bouts. Obviously, many of the top-ranked/elite wrestlers have gone kyujo in this tournament, making for slim pickings. But this strikes me as one of the rare times that a rank-and-file wrester is listed in the final three bouts. (When was the last time this happened? Anyone?) Tochiozan is WM5, and technically he is not a sanyaku wrestler! While there is no rule against it, it is in my mind a contradiction in terms. Interestingly, back in the summer of 2012 (i.e., May), when WM7 Kyokutenho walked away with the championship, Tochiozan fought and lost to him in a playoff bout. What I completely forgot was that in that same tournament, Aoiyama went into the final day tied with two other wrestlers with the second best record (10-4). Keep in mind, as I've mentioned in an earlier post, Tochiozan and Aoiyama are stablemates. In both of these tournaments, these two rank-and-file wrestlers were positioned for a possible championship. Coincidence? If history repeats itself, then Kasugano Stable's contender (i.e., Aoiyama) will not win the current basho. In my mind, if Aoiyama loses his final bout against Yoshikaze (which seems to be a foregone conclusion), that will take the pressure off Hakuho in that he will automatically win his 39th championship. Will that affect his will to win his own final bout against Harumafuji? Haru won't go easy on Hakuho no matter what happens in Aoiyama's bout. Likewise, Hakuho will go all out on Haru. In short, don't stop watching until the end...
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    Basho Talk - Nagoya 2017 (SPOILERS)

    You might have to take a trip to the Czech Republic to find out ... Some of his bouts were the most amazing ones I've ever witnessed.
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    Basho Talk - Nagoya 2017 (SPOILERS)

    As if to tantalize watchers, NHK gave a statistic of rank-and-file wrestlers in the Top Division who have won championships in Nagoya in the past. Two of the five were ranked lower than Aoiyama (i.e., <EM8): Fujinishiki (WM9 in 1964) and Kotofuji (EM13 in 1991). Neither of those two wrestlers, however, had to go up against the great Hakuho! Aoiyama is one of those "I can't believe I am even considering the possibility of him winning a championship" rare occurrences in ozumo.
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    Basho Talk - Nagoya 2017 (SPOILERS)

    I've heard of dameoshi ("bad pushes"), but does what Yoshikaze did in his bout against Onosho qualify? Usually dameoshi applies to a winning wrestler giving his opponent and extra (unnecessary) shove off the ring. In Yoshikaze's case, he had lost, yet in frustration he yanked Onosho's mawashi pulling him down off the dohyo.
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    Basho Talk - Nagoya 2017 (SPOILERS)

    I suspect that tottari is technique preferred by smaller wrestlers and both Harumafuji and Ura are relatively small. You are absolutely right that the techniques were the same. In fact, after Harumafuji lost to Ura by tottari, he has turned around and used it twice. The difference today, however, was that instead of a simple arm pull, Harumafuji turned it into and arm bar (à la kotenage). IMHO Harumafuji might even try it against Hakuho tomorrow!
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    Kensho Nagoya 2017

    Harumafuji leap-frogged Takayasu and Mitakeumi today, taking the number 2 spot. The win against Takayasu (benefiting $ from Kise's withdrawal) in the final bout of the day was the deal breaker. Even if he loses tomorrow against Hakuho, he will probably stay in the number 2 position. Takayasu will have to win more that 33 to surpass him... which come to think of it, is not implausible. When I watched the banner parade for Harumafuji's bout, I was surprised to see that in the final round of 15+1, the camera was zoomed way out so that the banners were positively microscopic. That is the first time I've seen something like that. Why would NHK do that? Don't sponsors complain that they are not getting equal treatment on the air?
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    Kensho Nagoya 2017

    Yoshikaze has 41. Surely, there will be close to a dozen kensho on his bout with Aoiyama tomorrow. If Yoshikaze wins (odds on favourite), then he will definitely knock Kise out of the top ten - all he needs is 6 banners. If he loses, however, Kise is safe.