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  1. Amamaniac

    Kensho Nagoya 2022

    I am having trouble figuring out how Daieisho reached 30 kensho on Day 11. His last win of the tournament was on Day 9, where he picked up a tidy 7 kensho, reaching his kensho total for the tournament. If he were listed at 30 on Day 11, why did he not appear on Day 9's list with 30 kensho? He lost on Day 10 and had a fusensho on Day 11 (no kensho gain). My total for Daieisho is 21. Happy if someone could set me straight.
  2. Amamaniac

    Kensho Nagoya 2022

    By my calculations, Day 10's Top Ten list was as follows: 182: Terunofuji 81: Abi 79: Takakeisho 67: Kotonowaka 55: Ichinojo 39: Shodai 32: Hoshoryu 31: Kiribayama 29: Wakatakakage 28: Ura https://www.sumo.or.jp/pdf/honbasho/kansen/torikumi/2207_10.pdf
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    Bout-Length Nagoya 2022

    Day 13 ------ J4w Mitoryu (8-5) fusensho M14w Tsurugisho (5-8) 02.5s M15e Oho (8-5) uwatedashinage M12e Terutsuyoshi (5-8) 08.5s M11w Midorifuji (8-5) hatakikomi M16e Yutakayama (6-7) 04.7s M14e Myogiryu (9-4) oshidashi M10w Meisei (7-6) 06.7s M15e Onosho (8-5) yorikiri M10e Chiyotairyu (6-7) 34.3s M17w Chiyomaru (5-8) uwatedashinage M9e Shimanoumi (1-12) 00.9s M13w Chiyoshoma (6-7) uwatedashinage M8e Tochinoshin (7-6) ------ M17e Nishikifuji (9-4) fusensho M6w Tobizaru (8-5) ------ M5w Sadanoumi (5-8) fusensho M16w Daiamami (2-9-2) ------ M12w Takarafuji (7-6) fusensho M5e Endo (3-10) ------ M3w Ura (6-7) fusensho M3e Tamawashi (5-8) ------ M2w Ichinojo (11-2) fusensho M8w Nishikigi (8-5) 07.5s M1e Kiribayama (6-7) kotenage M7e Okinoumi (4-9) 01.7s K1w Abi (7-6) hikiotoshi M7w Hokutofuji (6-7) 04.1s K1e Hoshoryu (8-5) kotenage M4e Wakamotoharu (5-8) ------ M6e Aoiyama (6-7) fusensho S1w Daieisho (6-7) 05.5s O1e Takakeisho (10-3) oshidashi O2w Shodai (8-5) 03.5s Y1e Terunofuji (11-2) oshidashi S1e Wakatakakage (7-6)
  4. Amamaniac

    Bout-Length Nagoya 2022

    Day 12 13.3s M16e Yutakayama (6-6) yorikiri J3e Kagayaki (6-6) 01.9s M15e Onosho (7-5) oshidashi M13w Chiyoshoma (5-7) 11.2s M12w Takarafuji (6-6) yorikiri M16w Daiamami (2-8-2) 03.9s M17w Chiyomaru (4-8) yorikiri M11w Midorifuji (7-5) 04.0s M14e Myogiryu (8-4) oshidashi M10e Chiyotairyu (6-6) 19.3s M10w Meisei (7-5) oshidashi M15e Oho (7-5) 01.9s M8e Tochinoshin (7-5) tsukiotoshi M17e Nishikifuji (8-4) 15.2s M5e Endo (3-9) yorikiri M9e Shimanoumi (1-11) 09.6s M5w Sadanoumi (4-8) sotogake M12e Terutsuyoshi (5-7) 05.8s M3e Tamawashi (5-7) oshidashi M14w Tsurugisho (5-7) 22.4s M2w Ichinojo (10-2) oshidashi M6w Tobizaru (8-4) 07.8s M1e Kiribayama (5-7) hatakikomi M3w Ura (5-7) 07.4s K1e Hoshoryu (7-5) uwatenage M7w Hokutofuji (6-6) 03.3s K1w Abi (6-6) hikiotoshi M4e Wakamotoharu (5-7) 08.3s S1e Wakatakakage (7-5) yorikiri M7e Okinoumi (4-8) 07.9s O1e Takakeisho (9-3) oshidashi M8w Nishikigi (8-4) 02.5s O2w Shodai (8-4) oshidashi M6e Aoiyama (5-7) 04.4s Y1e Terunofuji (10-2) oshidashi S1w Daieisho (6-6)
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    Bout-Length Nagoya 2022

    Day 11 01.3s M15e Onosho (6-5) tsukiotoshi M16w Daiamami (2-7-2) 10.2s M13w Chiyoshoma (5-6) yorikiri M12w Takarafuji (5-6) 06.1s M12e Terutsuyoshi (5-6) ashitori M17w Chiyomaru (3-8) 26.7s M11w Midorifuji (7-4) shitatenage M14w Tsurugisho (5-6) ------ M16e Yutakayama (5-6) fusensho M11e Kotoshoho (5-6) 15.0s M17e Nishikifuji (8-3) yorikiri M10e Chiyotairyu (6-5) ------ M15e Oho (7-4) fusensho M9w Kotoeko (5-6) 05.4s M14e Myogiryu (7-4) hatakikomi M8w Nishikigi (8-3) 16.6s M8e Tochinoshin (6-5) yorikiri M10w Meisei (6-5) 13.1s M5w Sadanoumi (3-8) yorikiri M9e Shimanoumi (1-10) 07.4s M7w Hokutofuji (6-5) watashikomi M4e Wakamotoharu (5-6) 07.1s M3w Ura (5-6) tottari M7e Okinoumi (4-7) 09.2s M3e Tamawashi (4-7) hatakikomi M1e Kiribayama (4-7) 05.1s M2w Ichinojo (9-2) okuridashi K1w Abi (5-6) -------- S1w Daieisho (6-5) fusensho M2e Kotonowaka (7-4) 02.3s M6e Aoiyama (5-6) hatakikomi S1e Wakatakakage (6-5) 08.0s O2w Shodai (7-4) yorikiri M5e Endo (2-9) 14.3s O1e Takakeisho (8-3) hatakikomi M6w Tobizaru (8-3) 45.4s Y1e Terunofuji (9-2) yorikiri K1e Hoshoryu (6-5) (Just lending a hand, Misahiro)
  6. Amamaniac

    Kensho Nagoya 2022

    Watching the kensho parade for the final bout of the tournament, I was reminded of the good old days with Hakuho. His final day bouts generally reached the 60 prize cap, and today the total was 57. Tidy little purse for the co-junyusho winner. I suspect he would have won even without this healthy incentive! (That is to say, I doubt Takakeisho was in it for the money.)
  7. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    That seems to be the million-dollar question. Given that he was 1-1 versus Makushita opponents in the tournament suggests that sticking it out in Makushita would probably not help his cause. Don't get me wrong. I admire the man and the wrestler. But at this stage in his career, he looks pretty beaten up. No one can really appreciate the pain professional athletes subject themselves to, but seeing all the cupping marks on his back and how readily he seems to give up in certain situations, makes me think that he will follow Shohozan's example. Shohozan started in sumo in March 2006, whereas Kaisei started in September of the same year. I'd say retirement is definitely in the cards. But will Kaisei do it before the next banzuke is set? Shohozan's announcement came too late, and so he ended up taking a spot on the latest tournament's banzuke. No doubt, it is a difficult decision.
  8. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    Mainichi Newspapers presented a sample championship portrait with Ichi in one of his debut keshomawashi. That suggests to me that they weren't expecting an Ichinojo yusho, and dug up an old file photo for the occasion ... rather last minute. Will the final portrait match the sample awarded today, or can Mainichi update the photo? That's something I've never kept track of.
  9. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    Agreed, but I was under the impression that double-digit wins was almost a prerequisite for consideration...
  10. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    OK, I know few people are really all that interested in the rikishi that seem perennially trapped down in sumo hell. But I decided I'd draw a little attention to Asabenkei here. Since the torikumi schedule was so far behind today, I was treated to Sandanme bouts when I woke up at my regular time for watching the start of Juryo. And then I witnessed the Makushita bout between Tochinobori and Asabenkei. Asabenkei has been around forever (i.e., March 2007), and despite his size and determination, he has struggled to get a strong foothold in the sekitori ranks. Knee injuries are his Achilles heel. Today he was fighting for his kachikoshi with a 3-3 record. His bout involved a torinaoshi, which proved costly for him: (1) he ended up losing the bout, (2) he was handed a makekoshi demotion, and (3) he was left incapacitated with a left knee injury, which could well set him back yet again. You'd think that a wrestler with his history would make a habit of wearing knee supporters, but no. I guess he likes to live dangerously. And when you live dangerously, you often end up paying the price. Sigh. I've been a passive follower of Asabenkei, so it hurt me to see him hurt yet again. But the main reason I decided to post this report is that after the broadcast was over, I went to the Baur Foundation to view their special exhibit on Japanese Prints 1860-1890. Included were a couple of prints featuring Musashibo Benkei (Benkei to his friends ) and I was reminded about the history behind Asabenkei's shikona.
  11. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    I wasn't aware of that tradition. Care to elaborate?
  12. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    So here is a hypothetical question for the sumo pundits on this forum: The Top Division matches for day 13 were set presumably before the day 12 bouts were even fought. Then came the sluw of Covid-related forced kyujo (7 wrestlers in total). What would have happened if both wrestlers in one torikumi match-up had been forced to withdraw? How would that have been handled in terms of white star and black star decisions?
  13. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    In the case you describe, I think that clearly the wrestler (A) executing the oshidashi or tsukidashi deserves the win, because there is a clear kimarite involved. But in these close cases at the bales, there are usually two kimarite being executed simultaneously. That is why the boys in the video review booth always have a kimarite handy for either gumbai or monoii decision.
  14. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    Against Tamawashi? The mono-ii said that Tsurugisho was flying (therefore implicitly dead) by the time Tamawashi touched ground. It's close but I buy it. Over the years since I began watching oozumo, there was a time when jumping at the bales while simultaneously forcing one's opponent down onto the ring was awarded with a white star, especially if the jumping wrestler did not cross below the plane of combat. There seems to have been a conscious decision to reconsider the act of jumping as the start of a loss (implicit dead body, as Seiyashi points out). So "robbed" he was by the old (i.e., pre-Isegahama) standards. But in today's oozumo world, not at all. I miss those desperation jumps!
  15. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    Seppuku? Or Letter? I don't know whether to join in the long-standing face-palming when it comes to the current Shikimori Inosuke's bumbles, or to thank him richly for causing a piece of sumo history! That was the most amazing mess that I've ever seen (worse that the Onomatsu decision on the Asanoyama vs Tochinoshin bout in May 2019)!! Sumo fans will remember this fiasco for decades to come forever!!!
  16. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    Robots have more personality than Endo! And I am not talking about state-of-the-art robots, but those from ... let's say 40 years ago.
  17. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    By 2025, oozumo will be entirely mechanised with robot wrestlers. Last time I checked, robots can't get Covid.
  18. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    I realise that it would be completely dishonourable, but ... Mitakeumi knew he probably would not be able to escape demotion being kadoban in this tournament. His best strategy would have been to (try and) get Covid just before the tournament started so that he could recover from his injury more while not being immediately demoted. Happy to see that he didn't opt for my horrible advice, albeit belated! Shame on me.
  19. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    Not that I am fan of his, but we need to keep in mind that he got married very recently, which can sometimes be a big distraction (I'm talking about you, Takakeisho) or at times a big support (think Okinoumi/Nishikigi, although I am sure someone will choose to debate that). Furthermore, is it just me, or does Shimanoumi appear to have lost weight? We'll have to "wait" until September for the "weight" update!
  20. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    Three Top Division championships suggest that his current "issue" has not always been an issue. Mitakeumi has traditionally blown hot and cold. But that seemed to be more of a mental issue rather than a physical one. It is worth noting that he has only pulled out of a tournament once (i.e., back in January of 2019), and on that occasion he returned to action after only four days, coming back to upset ... Yokozuna Hakuho! All that to say, he doesn't give up easily, he's willing to fight injured, and even when injured he is dangerous. Given the situation he is in now (i.e., kadoban), there is huge pressure on him to try and get his status saving KK. Sadly, the likelihood of him getting 8 wins and then being able to withdraw are looking slimmer than Shonanzakura! Honestly speaking, I really feel for Mitakeumi.
  21. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    Looks like Nishikifuji got the nod to serve as Terunofuji's dew sweeper. With Terutsuyoshi's terrible 1-4 record, little wonder why the Yokozuna didn't want him around ...
  22. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    I suppose you mean/meant Ikioi.
  23. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    Gotta say that Ichinojo is looking good so far this tournament. He has faced five of the sanyaku elite, and smoked them all. There are only two more sanyaku left. Tomorrow he faces Ozeki Mitakeumi after which he will have to fight Abi. Mitakeumi is not 100% this tournament (to put it mildly) and Abi might be a great thruster, but how effective will his thrusts be against the man mountain that is Ichinojo? Going forward, Kiribayama has an outside chance of handing Ichi a loss, Takanosho less so. But Ichinojo might be able to win the championship with a 13-2 record (14-1 might be asking for too much). Keep in mind that Ichi had a whole tournament to rest up. No signs of long Covid that I see. I see a back-in-form, potential champ at the moment! (P.S., who is Ikoi?)
  24. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    Sorry, but I'm playing catch up today. The bout between Yutakayama and Tsurugisho was ruled a uwatedashinage (overhand pulling throw) win for the former. I've watched the replay numerous times (albeit Abema's single angle view), and I fail to see Yutakayama's hand getting any kind of grip on Tsurugisho's mawashi... Anyone care to defend the kimarite ruling? Please explain.
  25. Amamaniac

    Nagoya 2022

    At 4-0, I'd say Ryuden is well on his way to returning to the Top Division in September. The bigger question is: what is he going to do once he gets there? He reached Komusubi in one tournament (Nagoya 2019). Will he make it back and beyond? He seems to be a rank-and-file staple, and he's not getting any younger.