Sakura

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  1. Posted

    6 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

    of course, does anybody still use snail mail? If someone says "send me a mail", he doesn't have to add e- to it. But there is still that old use of the word, so you are right, it should be added to the above post.

    I've never heard anyone use that to mean email. I've always heard `send me an email'

  2. Posted

    3 hours ago, Seregost said:

    Thought he entered Sandanme tsukedashi

    He did, but as a foreigner he had to sit out an extra bahso before starting though. Only 7 tournaments participated in.

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  4. Posted

    1 hour ago, Hankegami said:

    Takarafuji should be put "by the numbers" exactly to M17e, which is a spot that could be actually opened for Hatsu thanks to Shodai leaving an Ozeki spot void. 

    The number of Maegashira is determined by the number of Sanyaku. Shodai leaving Ozeki to Sekiwake has no effect on the numbers, but the shrinking sanyaku does.

  5. Posted

    The following link shows the number of times a Maegashira has beaten a sanyaku member in the basho. Aki comes to with 40, and this basho has 36. (The median amount is 26). The difference between the two is that a lot more losses are coming from the large Sekiwake and Komusubi ranks, which now need thinning out. Aki of course had two 4-11 Ozeki and a 5-5-5 Yokozuna, which had the effect of the increased Sanyaku size.

    In between we have Hatsu 2020, but that was an easy Sanyaku exchange. 

     

  7. Posted

    3 hours ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

    I agree with you in broad terms, but there's making moves to be fair and then making moves to keep from absolutely screwing guys over. A seven-man sanyaku would make several placements downright untenable, even accepting that movements aren't going to be rikishi-friendly. Eight should make it so that it's not awful for anyone except whoever gets plopped at M6W. Is that enough to make them go with nine? I don't know, but I wouldn't be shocked if they let one guy be the sacrificial lamb in order to not be excessive with their kindness.

    The current Sekiwake and Komusbi ranks (combined) are rather bloated, and they could do with reducing the numbers to avoid the problem of `what happens if they stick with 10 sanyaku and the M1s pull out great records and they have to expand some more'. Reducing down to 9 wouldn't be enough to cure that problem, but reducing down to 7 causes a lot of problems in ordering the Maegashira.

    8 would be a resonable number as you say and I think they don't have a problem with giving rikishi awful banzuke luck.

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  8. Posted

    Entries received Day 15

    Gaijingai Tamawashi Hokutofuji Kagayaki
    Tenshinhan Tamawashi Hokutofuji Kagayaki
    Athenayama Tamawashi Midorifuji Kagayaki
    Sumo Spiffy Tamawashi Kagayaki Midorifuji
    tsunamiko Tamawashi Kagayaki Aoiyama
    RaeucherLax Hokutofuji Tamawashi Midorifuji
    WAKATAKE Ura Oho Kagayaki
    gernobono Tamawashi Midorifuji Kagayaki
    Jakusotsu Hokutofuji Midorifuji Kagayaki
    shimodahito Hokutofuji Nishikigi Aoiyama
    Fujisan Tamawashi Kagayaki Aoiyama

    Standings after Day 15

    Name Base Pts Bonus Pts Total
    Gaijingai 95 75 170
    Tenshinhan 104 66 170
    RaeucherLax 78 81 159
    Athenayama 73 83 156
    tsunamiko 97 54 151
    Sumo Spiffy 79 71 150
    shimodahito 75 63 138
    gernobono 78 60 138
    Jakusotsu 73 63 136
    WAKATAKE 62 63 125
    Fujisan 72 39 111

     

    @Gaijingai and @Tenshinhan tie on points, but Gaijingai wins the tie-breaker.

    Congratulations, @Gaijingai on the yusho!

  10. Posted

    2 hours ago, Gurowake said:

    Ozeki Andoreasu had his second MK in a row and is demoted to Sekiwake; he can return automatically with at least 10 wins next basho.  Ozeki Sakura took the basho off and will remain kadoban.

    I did? Given that I also forgot to do a ChainGang pick, this is entirely plausible.

  11. Posted · Edited by Sakura

    30 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

    I'm confused. How is Tsushimanada safe in this case? Shonnanoumi's going up. Asanoyama's going up. Even if we assume that Tsushimanada wins and puts himself ahead of Kaisho in any circumstance, that means Sho and Asa are pushing Toku and Kaisho down. Tsushi's fate would be in Hakuyozan's hands then, wouldn't it?

    The first slot is Chiyotairyu's intai. 

    EDIT: Got distracted whilst writing this, and @Gurowake beat me to it.

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  12. Posted

    Day 15 torikumi

    Sanyaku

    5: Hokutofuji (vs Shodai)
    1: Kiribayama (vs Hoshoryu)
    8: Tamawashi (vs Tochinoshin)
    3: Ura (vs Tobizaru)
    2: Daieisho (vs Onosho)
     

    M1-M8

    5: Hokutofuji (vs Shodai)
    8: Tamawashi (vs Tochinoshin)
    3: Ura (vs Tobizaru)
    2: Kotonowaka (vs Ryuden)
    1: Terutsuyoshi (vs Ichinojo)
    5: Midorifuji (vs Kotoshoho)
    2: Oho (vs Wakamotoharu)
    2: Sadanoumi (vs Ichiyamamoto)
    3: Nishikigi (vs Kotoeko)
    2: Azumaryu (vs Myogiryu)
    6: Kagayaki (vs Takarafuji)

    M9+

    2: Daieisho (vs Onosho)
    1: Terutsuyoshi (vs Ichinojo)
    5: Midorifuji (vs Kotoshoho)
    2: Oho (vs Wakamotoharu)
    2: Sadanoumi (vs Ichiyamamoto)
    3: Nishikigi (vs Kotoeko)
    2: Azumaryu (vs Myogiryu)
    6: Kagayaki (vs Takarafuji)
    6: Aoiyama (vs Okinoumi)

  13. Posted

    Entries received Day 14

    Gaijingai Tamawashi Kotonowaka Sadanoumi
    Tenshinhan Abi Ryuden Kotoshoho
    Athenayama Tamawashi Kotonowaka Hiradoumi
    Sumo Spiffy Tamawashi Ryuden Nishikigi
    RaeucherLax Tamawashi Hiradoumi Okinoumi
    tsunamiko Ryuden Hiradoumi Kotoshoho
    Jakusotsu Tamawashi Kotonowaka Sadanoumi
    WAKATAKE Ryuden Tamawashi Kotoshoho
    shimodahito Hokutifuji Kotonowaka Nishikigi
    gernobono Shodai Ryuden Kotoshoho
    Fujisan x x x


    Standings after Day 14

    after 14 days @Gaijingai and @Tenshinhan are tied for the lead on points. @Gaijingai has the tiebreaker

    Name Base Pts Bonus Pts Total
    Gaijingai 79 69 148
    Tenshinhan 88 60 148
    Athenayama 60 77 137
    Sumo Spiffy 66 65 131
    tsunamiko 82 48 130
    RaeucherLax 57 72 129
    WAKATAKE 62 63 125
    gernobono 65 54 119
    Jakusotsu 60 57 117
    shimodahito 57 54 111
    Fujisan 57 33 90

  14. Posted

    Entries received  Day 13

    Gaijingai Kiribayama Kotoeko Takanosho
    Tenshinhan Kiribayama Takanosho Kotoeko
    Athenayama Kiribayama Hokutofuji Takanosho
    Sumo Spiffy Shodai Tobizaru Takanosho
    Jakusotsu Shodai Hokutofuji Kotoeko
    RaeucherLax Kiribayama Takanosho Kotoeko
    WAKATAKE Shodai Azumaryu Kagayaki
    tsunamiko Hoshoryu Takanosho Kotoeko
    shimodahito Nishikifuji Nishikigi Kotoeko
    gernobono Kiribayama Kotoeko Takanosho
    Fujisan Shodai Kiribayama Kotoeko

    Standings after Day 13

    Name Base Pts Bonus Pts Total
    Gaijingai 76 63 139
    Tenshinhan 76 51 127
    Athenayama 55 71 126
    Sumo Spiffy 60 56 116
    RaeucherLax 50 63 113
    tsunamiko 70 39 109
    Jakusotsu 57 51 108
    WAKATAKE 53 54 107
    shimodahito 56 51 107
    gernobono 54 45 99
    Fujisan 57 33 90

  15. Posted

    Entries received Day 12

    Gaijingai Kiribayama Takarafuji Kotonowaka
    Athenayama Kiribayama Wakamotoharu Aoiyama
    Tenshinhan Kiribayama Takarafuji Meisei
    Jakusotsu Kiribayama Wakamotoharu Nishikigi
    RaeucherLax Kiribayama Wakamotoharu Meisei
    WAKATAKE Kiribayama Wakamotoharu Aoiyama
    gernobono Kiribayama Meisei Nishikigi
    Sumo Spiffy Endo Takarafuji Meisei
    shimodahito Kiribayama Takarafuji Nishikigi
    tsunamiko Wakamotoharu Takarafuji Nishikigi
    Fujisan Wakamotoharu Takarafuji Aoiyama

     

    Standings after Day 12

    Name Base Pts Bonus Pts Total
    Gaijingai 73 60 133
    Tenshinhan 73 48 121
    Athenayama 52 68 120
    Sumo Spiffy 57 53 110
    Jakusotsu 57 51 108
    RaeucherLax 47 60 107
    WAKATAKE 53 54 107
    tsunamiko 67 36 103
    shimodahito 54 48 102
    gernobono 51 42 93
    Fujisan 57 33 90

  20. Posted

    Day 14 torikumi

    Sanyaku

    3: Shodai (vs Mitakeumi)
    4: Abi (vs Hoshoryu)
    3: Hokutofuji (vs Wakatakakage)
    4: Ryuden (vs Daieisho)
    1: Tamawashi (vs Takarafuji)

    M1-M8

    3: Hokutofuji (vs Wakatakakage)
    4: Ryuden (vs Daieisho)
    1: Tamawashi (vs Takarafuji)
    2: Kotonowaka (vs Meisei)
    2: Kagayaki (vs Takayasu)
    1: Terutsuyoshi (vs Ura)
    2: Sadanoumi (vs Tochinoshin)
    4: Hiradoumi (vs Nishikifuji)
    1: Nishikigi (vs Ichiyamamoto)
    4: Kotoshoho (vs Myogiryu)

    M9+

    4: Abi (vs Hoshoryu)
    2: Kagayaki (vs Takayasu)
    1: Terutsuyoshi (vs Ura)
    2: Sadanoumi (vs Tochinoshin)
    4: Hiradoumi (vs Nishikifuji)
    1: Nishikigi (vs Ichiyamamoto)
    4: Kotoshoho (vs Myogiryu)
    2: Okinoumi (vs Chiyoshoma)

  21. Posted

    5 minutes ago, Reonito said:

    Thanks, some of those are pretty eye-opening, though I want to check who would've been the best candidate for over-demotion (like, were they absolutely safe in makuuchi, or a bit borderline?)

    I suppose the Mitoryu one is one I can come up with without searching. Chiyonokuni was safe by the numbers (just) and could have been considered borderline, but was not demoted in favour of Mitoryu who went 12-3Y at J6 and that was only last year.

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  22. Posted

    1 minute ago, Reonito said:

    Thanks, some of those are pretty eye-opening, though I want to check who would've been the best candidate for over-demotion (like, were they absolutely safe in makuuchi, or a bit borderline?)

    Just checking on the last one. The 13-2Y from J7. There was an M3 with a 2-13 record that could have been demoted by the numbers, but only went as far as M13. 

  23. Posted

    7 minutes ago, Reonito said:

    If he loses out, Takarafuji picks up 2 more wins, and there are 3+ very strong promotion cases in Juryo, I don't think they'd have a choice, but I don't know what the unluckiest non-promotion from Juryo has been.

    J1's that didn't get promoted.Mostly 8-7s from J1w. Though a couple of 8-7's from J1e and four 9-6's from J1w.

    J2-3's: Worst being an 11-4Y from J3.

    J4-5's: Worst being an 11-4Y from J4

    J6-7's: Worst being a 13-2 Y from J7

    Having strong promotion cases doesn't guarantee a promotion.

  25. Posted

    19 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

    Eh... it looks like there are too many potential promotees from juryo to save Atami, even if he miraculously runs the table. Tsurugisho's the only current lock, but Mitoryu and Akua only need one more win, and Bushozan and Hokuseiho only need two. Gotta figure at least two of them will get there.

    The word is potential. It hasn't happened yet. Nothing is definite until it's definite. I don't think Atamifuji is winning out, and there is a good chance of having 3 rikishi with promotable record, but it hasn't happened yet.