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  1. The other issue to deal with is how the world will be post corona virus. Even if they say everything is okay again I doubt everyone is going to be rushing out to be in large groups of people anywhere for a long time.  Even if everything is safe you can't play to half empty venues, no matter what the form of entertainment, for long.

    Athletes, Movie stars, Entertainers in general are going to have to get used to making a lot less money than they used to.

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  2. Minus ODDS mean what you would have to Bet to win 100. So at -145 you would need to bet 145 to win 245, the 100 you win and your original 145 back.

    Plus ODDS are the opposite. +115 mean you bet 100 to win 215. 115 plus your 100 back.

    I'm not surprised to see this and there is nothing NSK can do about it. It's a foreign country. The same way betting on politics is illegal in the US but Brits can bet on the winner of an American election. With the large scale cancellation of sports matches everywhere betting houses will move into other things to bet on.


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  3. 3 hours ago, Kaito said:

    Wait, the rules posted on the Toto site are outdated? It says fewest X's used is the first tiebreaker for yusho. I'd been wondering why the rankings didn't seem to accurately reflect the rule.

    Yes, they are. That isn't the only one. Basically if you are on a game site and it links to another old site for archived rules you can bet part of it is outdated.

  4. 14 minutes ago, Athenayama said:

    Thanks for giving me some explanations. I have actually never picked "X" since I started playing Toto. I have that as "my own rule". :-)

    Anyway I'll just trust the game administrator for the final standings and if any master points won so I'll stop my silly questions here. 

    You're fine. There is no issue with asking anything. As for Master points you 3 tied for 8th and as such the total Masters Points for those potions, 6, will be divided among you with each receiving 2 points. Congratulations. Masters points do not use the game tiebreakers for anything except the Yusho.

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  5. 39 minutes ago, Athenayama said:

    No, I am sorry for not getting it in the first place. And thanks for the taking the tim to reply.  But isn't Gino-sho based exactly on the total bouts over the basho? There I have 305, Damimonay 304.5 and Susanoo 304. Unless I'm missing something.

    Yes, you did. The total bouts don't effect your standing overall. The total score you got picking Makuuchi bouts only count toward tie-breaking a standing. Which we don't know but it seem you finished behind they in picking just makuuchi. In other words you did better than them picking Juryo. If you had tied for any Master points you would still get a split so it doesn't effect that.

    Frankly why using only Makuuchi was ever used for this I have no idea. if it was for not conflicting with sansho then they should have come up with a different criteria for Gino-sho. The yusho is way more important than any sansho and discounting 1/3 of all the matches in determining a tie-breaker just seems silly to me. They also count the Makuuchi bouts you picked a X for in makuuchi bouts, that is matches you didn't actually pick, for tie breaker too. (Eh?)

  6. 1 hour ago, Jakusotsu said:

    I'm still sticking to my to my four-months-old opinion that nobody around here could actually know what's troubling him, either physically or mentally, especially in the current situation of Corona Basho. Having a bad basho doesn't always need an obvious explanation.

    I would agree. I do not understand what all the kvetching is about Takakeisho this basho. I think he is over the injury and it effects him about as much as an injury effects anyone else. After all you are never really the same again after a big injury. It's how you deal with it which in his case seems to be fine.

    Takakeisho was 1 win from a KK. Did he look lousy? Sure. But if you look at  his career prior to the run up to Ozeki he had a tendency to go 2 basho on and 1 off. This, and his 1 dimensional sumo,  are the main reasons I thought he would never be Ozeki. He also has come back quickly from injury. Since coming back from this latest injury he went 3 basho before  a poor one, which is actually an improvement.

    Is the 1 dimensional sumo holding him back? You bet it is. He won't win a Yusho in a basho which has both Yokozuna in it till the end. But that 1 dimension is still strong enough that I do not see any other rikishi beating him on a regular basis any time soon. People have had him figured out for a long time now. They just can't handle his thrusts.

    I expect him to come back strong in May, if there is one, and KK at the very least. Most likely contend for the yusho. Especially given the high likelihood at least 1 if not both the Yokozuna will not show up for May regardless.

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  7. 2 hours ago, Wakaebala said:

    I saw a tweet from NSK, in which they announce the three sansho-winners... (without any conditions). 
    I might be wrong but haven't they say that they won't give special prizes because of the coronavirus?

    Anyway, the tweet said:

    Shukun-sho: Onosho
    Kanto-sho: Takanosho
    Gino-sho: Aioyama


    Isn't this voted on by the press corp? How could they meet to vote?

  8. 21 minutes ago, Dapeng said:

    Sure, Takakeisho is already a big disappointment. But I have a feeling that Asanoyama will make a better ozeki than Takakeisho.

    Outside of very obvious injury Takakeisho is 39-20 as Ozeki. 3 KKs and  a possible 4th tonight. 2 of those were double digit wins and one was a jun yusho where he lost a playoff for the yusho. What exactly have you been watching?

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  9. Very rough night, but I figured it would be. It would have helped a lot if Yutakayama had kept his feet and beat Tochinoshin as he should have.  Did well in H2H. Win in SG for KK and almost pulled out a miracle in Bench. I'm going to need a good Day 15 to get me over the KK line in some games. No points anywhere except Norizo where I might have an outside shot if Tokushoryu  doesn't win by tsukidashi. I don't know how common the exactly 2 wins for the special question is. Probably not anyway given I don't have the yusho winner.

    8 hours ago, Pandaazuma said:

    Lost TTT as Daishomaru inexplicably became good as Midorifuji inexplicably went to absolute shit.

    I know right? WTH? I'll never understand how matches like these turn out the way they do.

  10. 45 minutes ago, dada78641 said:

    Ishiura breaking the dohyo, and the dohyo being sprayed with water so it'll...grow back? (Last Tuesday)


    Not grow, stabilize it till they can repair. Dohyo looks particularly dry this basho. I'm wondering if the lack of people has caused the humidity in the room to drop a lot resulting in the dohyo drying out faster than usual. The top looked particularly wet and slippy the other night. They may be trying to compensate. 

  11. If you picked: Nishikigi (2.11), Chiyotairyu (3.59), Tochiozan (2.13), Myogiryu (2.11), Takarafuji (2.14), Aoiyama (5.88) in ODD tonight.

    Total Quota = 1285.14


    I think that would clinch the yusho. 

  12. 16 minutes ago, Pandaazuma said:

    Oracle Day 13:

    Leader: Pandaazuma
    Choshu-Yuki -4
    Norizo -5
    Gansekiiwa -8
    Chishafuwaku -10
    Jejima -11
    ScreechingOwl -15



    Yeah, yusho winner looks to be among the top 4 right now. I will be happy to hang onto a KK.


  13. 21 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

    Judges' department head Fujishima oyakata on the Ozeki promotion: "We'll have to see at the end. I have nothing to say at this time."

    4 double digit win basho in a row? 5 of the last 6 along with a Yusho and Jun Yusho? Say hello to Ozeki Asanoyama everyone. Sumo, and fans, needs some good news.

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  14. 1 minute ago, robnplunder said:

    Just google media articles on Japanese Coronavirus testing qualification.  There are plenty of articles that discuss this topic.   Also, I don't know if you read Japanese news.  I do daily.   There have been cases and reports of people who was bounced from one doctor/clinic to another for a week before being allowed to be tested.   I think one such person was in his 70s.   For him, it is one week of missed hospitalization where he could have gotten the needed care.  If such instances increase, who is to say that it will not lead to unnecessary death?   Of late, there are some isolated movements to ease the testing qualification.  I think that is a good move.  At least, be flexible and apply common sense.   That's my point.

    Not being tested does not mean that they are not being treated if they have flu symptoms.  They won't be hospitalized to be treated unless they need intensive care even if they test positive. They will be given medicine to take for their symptoms, told to self quarantine and sent home. They don't immediately hospitalize people that test positive. If the media is reporting this as some kind of failure then they are being irresponsible.

  15. 1 hour ago, robnplunder said:

    I don't think Chiyomaru was qualified to be tested.  He only had 3 days of high temp.   There were media reports of those who had multiple symptoms and didn't get tested for days.  They were eventually tested positive and no doubt a few of them will die because of the delay.   


    Chiyomaru qualified to be tested because he was symptomatic and he was exposed to large numbers of people on a daily basis. The NSK had to know because they already committed to shutting down if 1 did test positive.

    I have no idea why you would suggest anyone will die as a result of  a delay in testing if they are displaying symptoms. They are going to be treated for their symptoms based on their severity. A positive diagnosis doesn't change the treatment for flu, regardless of the type. Their is no drug to cure this.  They simply mitigate the symptoms as best they can to give you the best chance at surviving long enough for your body to deal with the virus. The need for wide spread testing is to find people who are asymptomatic and positive to get them in quarantine and stop them inadvertently infecting others.

  16. I'm just hoping to hold out for a KK in Oracle.

    Boy the placement, or not, of Takakeisho last night was critical on the H2Hs. Kind of surprised to see some place him so high. I would have benched him if Aoiyama was not facing someone he never faced before. Shocked to see him as @RaeucherLax pick for Chain. But at least he got sole Jun-Yusho. Congrats!!!!! (Clappingwildly...)(Clappingwildly...)(Clappingwildly...)

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