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takanosho seems very similar to tochiozan hes not good with belt and hes oshi style is not like abi chiotaikai or takakeisho he is very similar to tochiozan imo the good news for takanosho is hes opponents are teru takakeisho mitakeumi shodai hoshoryu abi kiribayama etc so he has a good chance at least 1 yusho in his career tochiozan had very tough guys hakuho harumafuji kakuryu kisenosato kaio chyotaika baruto kotoosho etc but he almost won a yusho but choked in the end and kyokutenho won it

to become a yokozuna you need a little luck and you have to won when it mattered the most kakuryu did it and kaio did not and kisenosato failed many times and he finally won when it mattered the most

dont put terunofuji on the same category with shodai and mitakeumi terunofuji was a clear dai yokozuna material before the injury without hakuho harumafuji kisenosato kakuryu they all could have been 10+ yusho its not they are that bad its just hakuho is on another level

why he retires it is obvious he has some gas left in the tank he has a chance for 50 yusho isnt it cool if wee see the yusho number 50

ok that was my bad i thougth he won early in his career but that was dejima

I dont know if this ever happened before but at 2009 haru tournament hakuho had zensho yusho and 13 of the opponents were yusho winners at some point and 2 of them had yusho play off does this kind of thing ever happened before? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFBHqfF9q8I day 1 - goedo yusho winner day 2 - hokutoriku play off day 3 - kakuryu yusho winner day 4 - kotoshogiku yusho winner day 5 - tochiozan play off day 6 - kyokutenho yusho winner day 7 - miyabiama yusho winner day 8 - baruto yusho winner day 9 - kotomitsuki yusho winner day 10 - chiyotaikai yusho winner day 11 - kisenosato yusho winner day 12 - harumafuji yusho winner day 13 - kotooshu yusho winner day 14 - kaio yusho winner day 15 - asashoryu yusho winner

i think its hard to imagine mita as a yokozuna from my angle oshi guys cant be a yokozuna you should have to be very good on the belt and you have to be good enough without belt if you want to be a yokozuna asashoryu hakuho harumafuji kakuryu they are all good on the belt and all good with oshi attacks only kisenosato is not good without mawashi

if 2 of them is in their prime and do a yotsu battle who will win what do you think i think baruto will win

yes he is arguably the goat but his belt sumo was no where near at his peak for last 4 or 5 years around 2010 if he gets the belt then the opponets were almost done no matter how big small or who they were baruto kaiyo kotooshuu even asashoryu back then he was much more powerful and always goes for the belt but now he rarely go for the belt because he knows he is not that good anymore on the belt just look at the match against ikioi he cant push ikioi out of the ring that easy even if his strength is not that good he is better than the other rikishis overall

its not about only tochinoshin hakuho is at his worst last few years hakuhos strength was not that good but at his peak his strength was incredeble he won baruto kotooshu a lot of times on the belt and iam sure baruto was more powerful than todays tochinoshin

just read this prediction from 2005 from topic who is next yokozuna nobody thought that hakuho was going to be goat back then

I agree with most of you. Just to make this discussion of a more fun, let me play with traditional mongolian wrestler's watch. (I learnt it from our elders) A wrestler is truly great when following 4 characteristics are all met in an outstanding manner: 1. Body build 2. Talent 3. Will 4. Intelligence There can be some ups and downs on these, and even surprises. Then: As everybody can tell, Asa has an outstanding athletism, profound will to rule, and amazing ability to calculate his bouts with deadly accuracy. In short, he is naturally talented to be a terminator. Kaio has a frame which can be compared with only that of alpha male gorilla. However, we all know, what he lacks. (no hope) Tochiazuma has utter will to win and succeed most of the time. But he doesn't know how to surprise his opponents, basically coming with the same weapon everytime. No talent. Everybody knows about his injury plagued body. (no hope) Chiyotaikai has lesser body strenght then the fellow ozekis. Again, he has only one song in his disposal. No talent (no hope). Hakuho's body build needs no attention. His will seems to be lagging behind his achievements, but will not take very long for him to figure out who he is. He is the only rikishi at present, besides Asashoryu, who can really learn from his mistakes and act differently each time around. Naturally talented. Considering his age, he is the only hope. Kotomitsuki might have some will and talent, though it is not very evident. However quick rise of youngsters like Hakuho and Oshu may provoke him enough. His ability to control bouts intelligently isn't that good. Even with the will and brain, his body build is just not enough for ozeki. (no hope) Kotooshu's body build doesn't need attention. He also showed very strong will to be the top gun. He is very gifted wrestler. It is just a matter of time that he learns all sumo tactics. He has a shot for Yokozuna in coming years, if Asa and Hakuho will allow it to happen. Miyabiama. Body is hopeless, no talent, no intelligence, no will, so no hope. Wakanasato's build is impressive except his buttock muscles. If you look at wrestlers at ozeki and above, their buttock muscles are very pronounced. That means Wakanasato has just not enough thrust. The biggest thing he lacks is will. So, no hope. Roho has a build, talent and will. But it seems that his brain power isn't just enough. He reacts too slowly. A long career in Sanyaku is waiting for him. No ozeki. Kokkai's weight has already crossed the treshold where he will no longer be able to move his body efficiently. More on that, he is not showing any sign that he is learning a thing. No talent and no hope. Kisenosato has a real talent and intelligence. His thurst for fame will come just on time. The only worrying thing about him is that his weight might increase faster than his career, eventually making him just another Iwakiyama. Ozeki post is waiting for him, if he can keep his weight in control. Ama has everything but body build. But it is just for now. His father, one of the famious Sekiwake in Mongolian sumo, has recently told reporters that Ama's body is developing exactly on schedule. Ama might be the biggest surprise rikishi, he might have a shot at ozekihood. Asasekiyu will take where Miyabyama left. Kyokushuzan has everything but will. He doesn't want to win a yousho. I mean it literally. Kakizoe would be ozeki if we can magically increase his size by just 10%. He is an excellent wrestler. I think I better stop here since there are no more hot rikishi around for the time being.

most of your predictions were right its really funny how things turned out

its ver y interesting to read about this after all these years jesinofuji was right

congrats for the fake yusho :-D