Koorifuu

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  1. And yet again, gaijin really shining on the press.
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    Curious lists...

    No-one else replied and interest for this thread is dying, but for the sake of not leaving things incomplete I'll just post what my list was about: Rikishi who, debuting at M1-M4, managed to KK. Extras being the amount of consecutive KKs afterwards. In practice, I wanted to see who survived the joijin meatgrinder when first having a taste of it. :-D Honorable mention goes to Asashoryu. Narrowly missed the criteria as he jumped from M6 straight to sanyaku - even if he did survive it.
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    Curious lists...

    Pretty much! Should I say my criteria right away since that's 90% correct or wait a little more?
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    Curious lists...

    Shortening this list for names since 2000 (date of achievement); Hayateumi Takamisakari Kokkai Hakuho (w/ QUADRUPLE extra for good measure) Kotooshu Futeno Ama/Harumafuji Kisenosato (w/ extra) Kotoshogiku Baruto Toyonoshima Wakanoho (w/ extra) Tochiozan Aran Okinoumi Aoiyama Shohozan We'll see if anyone can get this right. The list turned out to be full of future stars and failed big hopes. I've added the info on Hakuho to help a little. :-D
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    Curious lists...

    :-D Argh! Pity that small mistake took the shine off my whole realization. But still, the list was impressive indeed. Of course it's unthinkable these days, the abundancy of yokozuna 20-30 years ago helped a lot. Definitely! And thanks to having Wajima's number, his monthly paycheck's number was much higher aswell. On a side note, I'm getting an idea for a new list. Probably harder.
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    Curious lists...

    Here it goes; everyone on the list has taken kinboshi from 6 different yokozuna! Except Dewanishiki.. Who did from 7 different ones, something unthinkable these days. Mitsuneyama: Terukuni (3) Akinoumi Maedayama Azumafuji Kagamisato (2) Chiyonoyama Kitanonada: Azumafuji Yoshibayama (2) Tochinishiki (2) Chiyonoyama Wakanohana Asashio (3) Dewanishiki: Maedayama Terukuni Haguroyama Kagamisato (2) Wakanohana (2) Asashio (2) Taiho (2!!!!) Ozutsu: Wakanohana (4) Mienoumi Wajima Kitanoumi Chiyonofuji (2) Takanosato Takamiyama: Sadanoyama Kashiwado Kitanofuji Wajima (7... Seriously, Jesse had Wajima to thank for a lot of his paycheck) Kotozakura Kitanoumi Akinoshima: Onokuni (3) Chiyonofuji (4!!) Hokutoumi (3) Asahifuji (4) Akebono Musashimaru
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    Curious lists...

    Correct! That was indeed what my list was meant to be. Akinoshima's feat was even more impressive when it was 5 yokozuna apart. As for yours, all of those have a massive amount of kinboshi taken so I assume the topic stays the same. Yet, my first suspicion was incorrect and I'm still working out the possibilities. :-P EDIT; I think I'm getting there. Only the last 2 of the list need confirmation. And this is indeed impressive.
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    Curious lists...

    Here's a list from me: Hananoumi Takamisugi Akinoshima Kyokudozan Terao Dejima Akinoshima (again! I guess this is a strong hint) Kyokutenho Toyonoshima Okinoumi
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    Asashoryu to fight Hakuho again

    A disgraced former top rikishi might find this an useful source of fame and money, but would a current one risk shaming the kyokai?
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    Kyushu Basho 2013 discussion thread

    Well, I like Baraki (his name reminds me of a fighter from Mortal Kombat 2 - I was good fighting with it - some 15 years ago) Oy, of all things, to be remembered of that game on THIS forum! Expecting Baraki to survive in makushita next time around is stretching it a bit.
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    New recruits for Hatsu 2014

    That much I knew, I remember reading about it on this forum. The recent crop of tsukedashi has been brilliant in rising up. Myogiryu, Chiyotairyu, Daikiho, Endo...
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    New recruits for Hatsu 2014

    I'll assume this is the first time ever that a maezumo kyujo will grant a massive promotion to Ms15TD!
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    YDC on the next yokozuna run

    And a few months ago it was even more intolerable.
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    Kyushu Basho 2013 discussion thread

    My experience with overall Japanese culture is much more limited than most members of this forum, but aren't bows related to the prominence of the individual? Not just in sumo but in all the country. I mean, it's expectable when someone with a higher rank doesn't really give a pronounced bow to other person who's ranked below. While it would be disrespectful and rude on the opposite way. It would make absolutely no sense on a Japanese culture way, to warn a top ranker for not bowing properly to his lesser prominent counterpart.
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    after Kyushu 2013 ...

    My personal opinions are; 1) Most likely. Unless Kise's Sato holds his own on the first days or Harumafuji stays healthy. 2) He's only a step away and he might get over the mental blocks. 3) Depends on the severity of the injury. A healthy Geek could easily get 10 wins by bumptyhumping. A Geek with any kind of injury on his legs is a plain makuuchi. 4) I would say it was, given the apparent lack of interest in getting more wins than necessary these last few years. However, those reports that he's revoking his Bulgarian citizenship in order to focus on the Japanese one make me hope there's more to see from him. 5) He's being consistent enough with tough opposition. I expect him to keep KKing long enough until the upper-ranks clear and he finally notches the needed count of wins through 3 basho. 6) Nah... Maybe I'm not right but it feels he's hitting his own wall as a joijin. 7) If he bulks up meanwhile, adding that to his natural skill, he's going far soon. If he keeps getting blasted away at power contests (we can't be sure if that's lack of proper built strength or injury) it's not going to be a fast rise. 8) In 4 months. He's good. Very good. He's used the juryo cast as toilet paper everytime he's been there. I think his issues at makuuchi are psychological. For the good of himself and the sport, he oughta sort them out soon. 9) Who knows. Boody's shown the extremely rare combination of will power, natural talent, work rate and adaptability to a 100% different culture. If he doesn't derail meanwhile and keeps improving at this rate... He's going places. 10) An unexpectacular debut. A fairly reasonable and average score. His growth has been slow and steady. I don't think he's going to either shine or flunk. 11) Terunofuji was already a stand-out as he was an upper makushita without any serious training. That heya absorption gave him the progression possibility to uncover his vastly hidden skill and it's showing. Damn fast, I might add. I hope his attitude improves, but besides that, he's looking great. 12) You can never tell when Kokonoe's fellas are injured more often than not. Without injuries he could be. Not as an upper-half though. 13) No. Wakanosato has been offered some excessive leniency this basho from his opponents and his downward spiral is extreme. Unfortunately for the eternal ozeki-deserving sekiwake, not getting younger means it's unlikely things will change. As for Hochiyama.. I don't rate him any higher than those juryo-makushita dwellers like Kimikaze or Kizenryu. 14) Maybe even in 2 months! 15) No. 16) For eternity... I like the lad a lot but I have no idea how he managed to stay this long on the juryo yusho race. 17) Tochinoshin is a top maegashira when healthy. However, gaijin have shown lesser resistance to serious injury blows than nihonjin. See Baruto, Aran et al. He's going to wipe makushita folks at ease if he's healthy and willing. If any of those two conditions fail... Then we're bound to see the next casuality. 18) I think so! 19) Nah. The sekitori have him figured out. There's a reason he dropped out of there in the first place. 20) Hopefully not! There aren't many prospects behind him and even if he gets the occasional MK he's going up sloooowly but surely. 21) Amuru, yes. He's fast-rising on the lower ranks. Kizenryu? Oh well. 22) No. The upper ranks of makushita are on a much higher standard than they were when he did juryo (not long after the Great Purge). 23) Exactly the same as Irie. 24) They're all skilled and young. If their mentality also grows and becomes more mature.. All of those are certain to be sekitori mainstays. 25) Very. I just hope he doesn't get past the 5-man bunch I've mentioned above too fast. That could ruin their mentality improvement process. 26) As Asashosakari said... he doesn't look THAT convincing. 27) In January. All of those are talented, but neither has shown the skill to be -definitely- above the tier they're about to get into. 28) Watanabe / Takamai. 29) Henka more often. 30) In sandanme I expect a 6-1 rather than a 7-0.
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    Persistence Watch - 2013 edition

    Ladies and gentlemen, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdRYNeL7Dhw We've witnessed history!
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    Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Kyushu 2013

    Related to your current topic, I've went out to check some unqueriable data. And what I found out is interesting. There are only 3 current makuuchi rikishi to have failed so far to take any yusho at any division. Tochinowaka, Fujiazuma (!), Aminishiki (!!!!!). At juryo: Kagamio Azumaryu Yoshiazuma (not surprising since these 3 have had a pretty slow rise up the ranks) Chiyoo (!) Oiwato (being a makushita TD who never got demoted to sandanme helped) Kotomisen (even less surprising than Yoshiazuma) Chiyomaru So it's pretty much confirmed that yusho's at lower divisions are a good sign to ever getting sekitorihood.
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    Kyushu Basho 2013 discussion thread

    And for the first time this basho, I actually enjoyed some extra-bout action. Kisenosato shoving Harumafuji a little after the latter stepped out, to be paid back with a deft slap to the back of the head. Then it's all merry and nice and there we go to the post-bout ceremonies as usual. It didn't come across as rude or disrespectful to me. More like a show of intentions like a smirk.
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    Rikishi Status Kyushu '13 - Final

    That "initial" scared the heck out of me. I happened to read it too fast and wrongly at first. His injury proneness is denying him a makuuchi regular spot and there aren't any signs it's going to change. :(
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    Kyushu Basho 2013 discussion thread

    A little more aggression during the matches would be nice indeed. Problem is, this is happening after the matches...
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    Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Kyushu 2013

    With so many uncertainty on the top of makushita, Arawashi aside, and Wakanoshima's failure to take the 7 wins... I even figured the Ms9 pair of Amuru and Kansei (both 4-1 at the time) had a chance if they got 6-1. Both duly lost on the day afterwards. Now there's no way around it: even if Kihonoumi seals promotion with a 5-2 (with a juryo visit to prove his worth!) at least one out of Takanoyama, Tochihiryu, Kawanari and Sakigake is going up with an unconvincing 4-3. I'm going to cheer for Tanzo, though. If he put the fighting spirit to save his mummy self's sekitorihood, crushing Kawanari's and Sakigake's juryo dreams (for now) he sure deserves it. EDIT: A pair of makushita matchups I find interesting: Ms13e Takatoshi 3-3 Ms15w Iwasaki 3-3 Ms16w Kyokutaisei 3-3 Ms14w Dewahayate 3-3 Two promising young juryo pretenders will be still within reach in January, another two will have to settle for a minimum of two (overachieving) bashos. In a few hours we'll see.
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    Kyushu Basho 2013 discussion thread

    Good to hear someone who agrees me in two different points! About the former, I didn't really want to get on this boat, but I wish they'd include the top guys on the reprimands. I respect both of them a lot but this time they're overdoing it. They'd better reprimand the yobidashi who was obviously asleep. Poor guy probably expected it just as much as Akiseyama.
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    Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Kyushu 2013

    And indeed, that's what's happened. The jonidan 6-0 pair has been pitted against each other. So Hochiyama has been fed a 5-1 Ms55 in form of Rendaiyama while Shineiyama and Baraki tussle it out for the zensho (and possible yusho in case Hochiyama falls) despite the massive 70 ranks between them. This is going to be a very interesting day 13 for lower divisions.
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    Kyushu Basho 2013 discussion thread

    Leading juryo are Chiyootori and Chiyomaru! It's going to be lovely if they carry this on to kettei-sen. Brothers AND same heya.
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    Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Kyushu 2013

    Off-topic, but heck. Things are really extreme opposites, on the banzuke's extreme opposites.