Andreas21

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  1. Andreas21

    Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Hatsu 2021

    Regarding Terunofuji's chances to regain Ozeki rank next basho, I'd like to remind to Miyabiyama's non-promotion in 07/2006 at 10-14D-10. It is pretty much agreed that the main negative factor was that he fell from the Ozeki rank before. As repromotions to Ozeki are very rare, Miyabiyama is the only good yardstick that we have, and that tells us 10 wins next basho is probably not enough. My opinion is that 12 will seal it, and 11 is unpredicatable.
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    Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Haru 2020

    Ozeki Asanoyama! Being a fan for over two years now, I'm really happy he finally took the big step. From the beginning, I enjoyed his "smart" flavour of Sumo. Now, I wish him to become Yokozuna. To me, he's the top Yokozuna candidate once Hakuho retires (but of course, I'm not objective).
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    Haru 2020 Basho Discussion (SPOILERS)

    Completely agree! The way I see it, he dominated Kakuryu but the witty Yokozuna got away with it. Hakuho dominated but the defense of Asanoyama on the edge was so strong, Hakuho was lucky in the end. The other losses came to Mitakeumi who can beat anybody on a good day and yusho when in-form, and his old buddy Yutakayama who knows him well enough to hurt him once in a while. The rest - decisive wins throughout. So basically, Yokozuna sumo. I think, Takasago is just being pedagogically here. Rightly so! Overconfidence is never a good attitude.
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    Haru 2020 Basho Discussion (SPOILERS)

    I also wondered, why is this Torinaoshi. Daeisho touched down earlier, clearly. So is it dead-body, then? Presumably, Enho took the passage to dead body at exactly the same time when Daieisho touched down.
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    Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Hatsu 2020

    What ugliness of the Banzuke? A depleted rank is skipped, that's all. The dignity and the beauty of the ring-entering ceremony are important, but they are very flexible with that - a position will be substituted by the one with the next highest position which is available. How would they deal with a situation with no Ozeki and Yokuzuna left? No Dohyo-iri of the Yokozuna part, but apart from that - everything can proceed as normal. Even in this case I do not believe that they rush any promotions if no proper candidate of promotion is available. In fact, this is a totally realistic scenario with Hakuho and Kakuryo gone, Takakeisho injured and demoted, and the rest alternating good and bad Bashos. The Banzuke would range from Sekiwake East to M19w - there is no real problem with that. Of course, some social/religious events would then have to reconsider - they would have to do with former Yokozuna. This will later be known as the Sumo period with no Yokozuna/Ozeki! I could imagine that they loosen the conditions slightly, but not to the point that they simply selecting the best available and give the title to him. Sorry, Asanoyama, I'm afraid you really have to fight it out!
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    Hatsu 2020 Basho Discussion (SPOILERS)

    Similarly to last basho, I'd like to criticize the Torikumi makers. It is a major blunder to omit the matches of the East Ozeki and the West Ozeki, as well as omitting East Sekiwake against West Sekiwake. These are crucial matches, omitting them defies the original idea of a ranking tournament. If the basho were held only for a single day, for a single bout for each Riskishi (and once upon a time, it was!) then those were to be chosen - the match between the East and West side of the same rank. What are the priorities of the Torikumi makers? (By the way, also M4e vs. M4w are omitted) I can well understand the matches Takakeishi-Tokushoryu and also Asanayoma-Ryuden on the last day, for given the preference of a similar score. The mistakes had been made earlier, for instance in days 11 and 12, when Takakeisho was matched to Takarafuji and Tochinoshin. At that point Shodai and Tokushoyu were in the lead, and it was obvious that Goeido would not be in the Yusho race, so they could have easily did the Ozeki matchup then, leaving space for a possibly necessary Hiramaku matchup. To me it seems, they fail to foresee the situation, and then run into unsolvable Torikumi situations which force them to make choices which hurt the actual objectives. I know, Kyujo, same stable Rikishi, brothers, Hiramaku forerunners can sometimes complicate the situation a lot, but I would state they could often make a better job. Here's what I think the objectives of the Torikumi are Pair Rikishi of a similar Banzuke position to substantiate an appropriate next Banzuke - the closer the positions, the more relevant Postpone the matches beetween the top ranks down to Sekiwake to the final days for greater thrill at the final days As the Basho develops, prefer matches between Rikishi with a similar score even at considerable rank differences with special emphasis to the Yusho race Understandably, these objectives are sometimes contradictory - the last one interferes with the first two. Here, some creativity and logical thinking is necessary. Also, the consideration of scenarios is helpful. Is it still so that some Oyataka convene as the Torikumi committee, and determine the pairings of the following day just with the help of a Banzuke board and some stones to mark the Rikishi? Anyway, they should 1. Invite a mathematician to the committee for the logical thinking - the oyataka could then concentrate to tell what they want to achieve, and the mathematician could then tell them if that is possible and which Torikumi problem this would create on a later day. 2. Make the Torikumi after the results of the matches of the day, in particular in the second week. This would cut the possible scenarios greatly and simplify the complexity of the task.
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    Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Hatsu 2020

    With Goeido intai, (at least) two Juryo will go up. In addition to Nishigiki there is J2e 8-7 Kotonowaka J6e 11-4 Daiamami J13w 13-2Y Terunofuji By the numbers, I tend to give preference to Daiamami as he had about the same strength of opposition as Kotonowaka. I'd be happy for Kotonowaka for a lucky promotion as the Makuuchi debut would be a great reward for his consistent results, he's on a Kachikochi streak of 7. He would be the youngest Rikishi in the Top division then! J13 is too low for a promotion with only 13 wins. I doubt that Yusho makes really a difference here. I'd really like to see Terunofuji in Makuuchi again but the finish was sooo underwhelming. He might get as well get in shape with another Juryo Yusho before he can hold up to the top division. My prediction is he will struggle in mid Meagashira.
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    Guess Hokutofuji's Aite January 2020

    My result makes it clear, I'm totally clueless what the Torikumi makers do and what they are trying to accomplish! I've recently seen a Sumo documentary which included a scene of the Torukumi meeting in the 90s, which was sort of a revelation. Apparently, the only tool used was a Banzuke board with stones which marked the Rikishi already paired. All is work of the mind and possibly gut feeling involved. I'm thrilled, but to me it seems hopeless to predict.
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    Guess Hokutofuji's Aite January 2020

    Day 15 Tokushoryu
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    Hatsu 2020 Basho Discussion (SPOILERS)

    We're heading into a Shodai-Tokushoryu showdown at Senshuraku, and poor Takakeisho can crush Goeido and Asanoyama and still has no say in it. Assuming, the leading duo can win their bouts which is quite possible at the moment, and the committee sticks to the usual Ozeki schedule, and Goeido does not kyujo. (a handful of "if"s!)
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    Guess Hokutofuji's Aite January 2020

    Day 14 - Tokushoryu
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    Guess Hokutofuji's Aite January 2020

    Day 13 - Takarafuji Guess they save Mitakeumi for Senshuraku - but what do I know!
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    Guess Hokutofuji's Aite January 2020

    Day 12 Endo
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    Guess Hokutofuji's Aite January 2020

    Day 11 - Enho
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    Guess Hokutofuji's Aite January 2020

    Day 10 Daieisho
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    Guess Hokutofuji's Aite January 2020

    Day 9 Daieisho
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    Guess Hokutofuji's Aite January 2020

    Day 8 - Takayasu
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    Guess Hokutofuji's Aite January 2020

    Day 7 : Asanoyama
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    Hatsu 2020 Basho Discussion (SPOILERS)

    To the contrary, I see Asanoyama as a great defender. However, he often relies on that too much for my taste. Only if he learns to get the initiative more often, he will be ready for Ozekihood. And for Abi, you're so right! You simply can not have him make his own game - he will be unstoppable. It's the same with Kotoshogiko, once he has his preferred position, you cannot defend it - Kisenosato, also with a rather passive, reactive style, had so much trouble with him. After the Yokozunae have gone Kyujo, Takakeisho is the highest ranked remaining Rikishi, and in my opinion the top candidate for the Yusho right now. However, the competition is so close, anybody out of possibly 10 rikishi could make it - what an excitement!
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    Hatsu 2020 Basho Discussion (SPOILERS)

    I have to say that I thoroughly enjoy the basho. There are so many spirited bouts, and rikishi at the top of their game. In my opinion, we're seeing the best ever Shodai, Kagayaki, Terutsuyoshi, Endo, Hokutofuji, Yutakayama, Asanoyama, Enho, Daieisho, Takanosho, Kiribayama and the best Terunofuji, Kotoshogiko, Takakeisho in a long time. I don't really think that the struggling Hakuho, Kakuryo, Goeido, Takayasu are so weak - it's just that they can't snatch the victories in the jo-i as easily as they used to because they have fierce opposition where 90% is simply not enough. I can clearly remember the escalator Rikishi who moved from mid-meagashira to up to Sekiwake and back - and the Yokozunae would have basically just to turn up to get the win.
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    Guess Hokutofuji's Aite January 2020

    Day 6 : Abi
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    Hatsu 2020 Basho Discussion (SPOILERS)

    Interesting. In the Utchari wins I recall in the last years, I remember the thrower up in the air too, sometimes more "dead body" than here. Back then, I accepted that they make an exception on the Shinitai for a well-executed Utchari. Although the final decision is clearly within the rules, I still think, it is unlucky for Kiribayama as the throw was really great given the awkward position he was in. This, or my memory is blurred
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    Guess Hokutofuji's Aite January 2020

    Day 5 - M1W Myogiryu
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    Guess Hokutofuji's Aite January 2020

    Day 4 - Hakuho