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    Mukade Beya (Formerly STI) Sumo Gaming Banter Thread

    That's the fifth lowest-scoring day of all time despite the fact that almost everyone got a fusen win. (And although Goeido's kyujo wasn't announced before night in Europe, anyone who watched day 1 was aware he wasn't going to be able to wrestle.) If you subtract the automatic win, it's almost assuredly the worst prediction day ever, caused in part by losses by the top five ranked rikishi on the banzuke.
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    Bench Sumo - Day 1 emergency picks

    Screeching Owl shonichi picks: 4 Hakuho 3 Mitakekumi 3 Shodai 2 Asanoyama 2 Tamawashi Wakatakakage, Ryuden, Goeido, Takanosho, Tomokaze
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    Mukade Beya (Formerly STI) Sumo Gaming Banter Thread

    Some hard luck on senshuraku for the five score footed crew. Sagi lost a tie-breaker, falling short one point short of victory and a possible yusho. Unkonoyama also unfortunately faltered on day 15, falling two points short of the juryo yusho. In Makushita Gawasukotto won, but also fell one point short of the yusho. However, there was much positive news for Aki overall. In Makuuchi, Haidouzo finished with a victory to go 11-4 and bag a jun yusho. Sagi finished with 99 points (one short of the most for the basho) and a fine 10-5 record. And Chocshoporyu had the most AADs with 12, and also produced 10 wins. Haidouzo should find himself promoted to komusubi next basho, while ScreechingOwl will yield his place in the sanyaku. In Juryo, Unkonoyama finished 12-3, good for the jun yusho and a likely promotion to Makuuchi next time out. In Makushita, Gawasukotto finished 12-3 and will move considerably closer to Juryo, while Domichi also finished with double digit wins. Congratulations to all the SG gamers and I hope your autumn gets off to a smooth and happy start. Rank Record Points AADs Opp AADs 10 8+ 5- TB TB+ Who? SG shikona EY1 9-6 95-84 11 10 0 1 3 3 2 Simon Pandaazuma EK1 6-9 91-90 8 8 0 4 6 1 0 Douglas ScreechingOwl EM1 7-8 86-90 8 9 0 0 7 2 Miyako Chankoyama EM4 11-4 94-89 10 8 0 3 5 6 4 Scott Haidouzo WM4 4-11 84-88 6 8 0 1 8 5 0 Rupert Rupatengu WM5 10-5 95-91 12 9 0 3 3 4 3 Gary Chocshoporyu EM6 9-6 94-88 10 7 0 3 4 4 3 Jan Kuroimori EM8 7-8 83-87 7 8 0 1 6 7 3 Alexander Ganzohnesushi WM17 10-5 99-86 11 9 0 4 2 4 3 Stefan Sagi * EJ3 5-10 79-91 6 8 0 0 8 3 2 Eric Sebunshu WJ3 6-9 95-92 11 8 0 2 3 3 0 Mark Fujiyama EJ5 12-3 90-84 8 6 0 3 7 4 4 Unko Unkonoyama WJ7 8-7 90-87 9 8 0 2 5 4 1 Sergio Chishafuwaku * Wms5 8-7 84-81 7 5 0 0 6 5 1 Rocks Gansekiiwa Ems9 9-6 92-84 10 5 0 2 5 4 1 Steve Chelseayama Wms20 12-3 92-82 9 7 0 2 3 5 4 Ronnie Gawasukotto Ems25 6-9 82-93 7 8 0 1 8 4 2 Jezz Jejima Wms34 10-5 81-79 5 5 0 1 9 4 4 Dustin Domichi
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    2019 Aki Basho Discussion (spoiler alert!)

    While anything can happen, Takakeisho has to be the favorite. He has the easiest match up on senshuraku and his earlier bout this basho against Mitakeumi was very one-sided.
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    2019 Aki Basho Discussion (spoiler alert!)

    No mark on the sand, no mono-ii, and no reason not to have one. The shimpan make another embarrassing decision that effects the yusho race a mere two basho after the previous time. Maybe in a century or two they will actually use common sense and the camera angles to correct human frailty. (Note there was no visible mark in the sand from Endo's supposed step-out.)
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    Mukade Beya (Formerly STI) Sumo Gaming Banter Thread

    Day 14 finds Sagi leading the way with a strong 8. There is a five way tie for the yusho lead going into senshuraku, with the centipedes having two of the leaders, Haidouzo and Sagi. Since two of the leaders (Norizo and Trender) are matched against each other, it will require 11 victories to take the yusho. Sagi is tied with Norizo and Trender with 92 points, so he needs to both win and get at least as many points as the higher scorer between the two. Haidouzo is 5 points behind, so he’ll be playing for the jun-yusho. Pandaazuma could theoretically finish in a tie for the jun-yusho and will certainly win a lot of gaming points should he triumph tomorrow. In Juryo Unkonoyamq has 12 victories and will face the other joint leader on senshuraku, so a win will yield him the yusho. Gawasukotto is in a five-way tie for second in Makushita, and will need a win, to make up 2 points on two players, and for the leader to lose to take the yusho, which is a tall order. No one who hasn’t already achieved kachi koshi will gain one tomorrow, but there is still pride and banzuke considerations at stake for everyone, so let’s all finish the basho on a high note. Ganbare! Rank Record Points AADs Opp AADs 10 8+ 5- TB TB+ Who? SG shikona EY1 9-5 89-83 10 9 0 1 3 2 2 Simon Pandaazuma EK1 6-8 86-85 8 8 0 4 5 1 0 Douglas ScreechingOwl EM1 6-8 80-85 7 9 0 0 7 2 Miyako Chankoyama EM4 10-4 87-84 9 8 0 3 5 6 4 Scott Haidouzo WM4 4-10 79-81 6 7 0 1 7 5 0 Rupert Rupatengu WM5 9-5 88-84 11 8 0 3 3 3 2 Gary Chocshoporyu EM6 8-6 87-83 9 7 0 3 4 4 3 Jan Kuroimori EM8 6-8 78-82 7 8 0 1 5 7 3 Alexander Ganzohnesushi WM17 10-4 92-79 10 8 0 4 2 3 3 Stefan Sagi * EJ3 5-9 74-85 6 7 0 0 7 3 2 Eric Sebunshu WJ3 5-9 86-87 10 8 0 2 3 3 0 Mark Fujiyama EJ5 12-2 85-77 8 5 0 3 6 4 4 Unko Unkonoyama WJ7 8-6 83-80 8 7 0 2 5 3 1 Sergio Chishafuwaku * Wms5 8-6 78-74 6 4 0 0 6 5 1 Rocks Gansekiiwa Ems9 8-6 86-79 9 5 0 2 5 4 1 Steve Chelseayama Wms20 11-3 86-77 8 7 0 2 3 5 4 Ronnie Gawasukotto Ems25 6-8 79-85 7 7 0 1 7 4 2 Jezz Jejima Wms34 10-4 76-73 5 4 0 1 8 4 4 Dustin Domichi
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    Mukade Beya (Formerly STI) Sumo Gaming Banter Thread

    Day 13 yielded some positive notes: Pandazuma, Haidouzo, Chocshoporyu, and Gawasusukko lead the way with 9s. Unkonoyama and Gawasugokko won their 11th victories, to stay tied for the lead in juryo and makushita, respectively (although trailing in the tiebreaker of points). Pandaazuma, Choshoporyu, and Chishafu got their all important 8th wins. Let’s see what tomorrow brings. Ganbare! Rank Record Points AADs Opp AADs 10 8+ 5- TB TB+ Who? SG shikona EY1 8-5 82-79 9 9 0 1 3 2 2 Simon Pandaazuma EK1 5-8 80-80 7 8 0 4 5 1 0 Douglas ScreechingOwl EM1 6-7 75-78 7 8 0 0 6 2 Miyako Chankoyama EM4 9-4 80-77 8 7 0 3 5 5 3 Scott Haidouzo WM4 4-9 74-76 6 7 0 1 6 4 0 Rupert Rupatengu WM5 8-5 81-78 10 7 0 3 3 3 2 Gary Chocshoporyu EM6 7-6 82-78 9 7 0 3 3 3 2 Jan Kuroimori EM8 5-8 73-76 7 8 0 1 4 6 2 Alexander Ganzohnesushi WM17 9-4 84-73 9 7 0 3 2 3 3 Stefan Sagi * EJ3 4-9 68-81 5 7 0 0 7 3 2 Eric Sebunshu WJ3 4-9 83-82 9 8 0 2 3 3 0 Mark Fujiyama EJ5 11-2 76-73 7 5 0 3 6 4 4 Unko Unkonoyama WJ7 8-5 84-74 8 6 0 2 4 3 1 Sergio Chishafuwaku * Wms5 8-5 73-69 6 4 0 0 5 4 1 Rocks Gansekiiwa Ems9 7-6 79-73 8 4 0 2 5 4 1 Steve Chelseayama Wms20 11-2 83-73 8 7 0 2 2 5 4 Ronnie Gawasukotto Ems25 6-7 75-78 7 6 0 1 6 4 2 Jezz Jejima Wms34 9-4 72-69 5 4 0 1 7 3 3 Dustin Domichi P.S. Great thanks to Dustin for helping out on Day 12. I had a long day at work and although I finished the table I'm not sure I'd have had the energy to post it. For day 14 and senshuraku I'm off, so I'll attempt to post the results with Panda-like promptness.
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    Happy Birthday, Pandaazuma!

    Best wishes for a happy day for a happy dai.
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    Mukade Beya (Formerly STI) Sumo Gaming Banter Thread

    Bench is now open (9/2), so all interested parties can register for both SG and Bench. I'll be happy to help out while our international man of mystery is away.
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    21 Aki 19, The Results

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    I'm looking forward to playing and choosing Abi in Aki!
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    Mukade Beya (Formerly STI) Sumo Gaming Banter Thread

    In Bench you'd get the two leaders matched up on senshuraku (if they hadn't met previously), but in SG that rarely happens. At least Trender is a beast at that game, so anything can happen today. Good luck, Ganzo.
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    Nagoya 2019 Discussion (here be spoilers)

    Facing the higher-ranked opponents was certainly a major factor in Enho's not getting his kk last basho too. In his day 12 match, Enho was dictating the pace (and position) of his match with Shohozan and was a bit unlucky not to win. But it certainly looked like he got injured when his foot got caught awkwardly under him, and it's hard to foresee him getting a kk now, even if he doesn't go kyujo.
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    21 Nagoya 19, The Results

    1 A2 A3 X4 B5 B6 B7 A8 B9 A10 A11 A12 A13 B14 A15 B16 B17 B18 B19 X20 B21 A
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    Hakuho Applying for Japanese Citizenship

    When Hakuho married a Japanese woman was when the major drift happened. When your career (and best future career) are in, and your wife is from, the same country, it logically follows that's where you are going to stay. It would have been surprising if he didn't apply for Japanese citizenship.
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    Natsu basho 2019 discussions [SPOILERS]

    Kintamayama's discussion is illuminating. It must have been very tempting for Tochinoshin to have employed a henka in his senshuraku bout last basho against Takakeisho, when he was injured and his ozeki status was on the line, yet he refrained from doing so. Prior to injuring his knee in Nagoya in 2013, Tochinoshin often used a henka. Since his return he has seldom done so. He truly is a changed wrestler and well deserving of the repromotion he clinched yesterday.
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    Natsu basho 2019 discussions [SPOILERS]

    There have been many comments on the judging, but most of them have missed the obvious points. 1. The judges are biased. I'm not saying they are trying to make bad calls or there is any conspiracy going on. I'm merely pointing out that they are in the position of judging rikishi from their own heya. This is an active bias. There is no other sport I know of where, at the professional level, the judges are also managers/coaches/owners of the players they are judging. 2. The judges aren't professional judges. They are professional heya owners and former wrestlers. They have not dedicated years of their life to the art and/or science of judging. This is just another duty for them. Does anyone honestly think that being a coach and former player is the best qualification to be a judge? 3. Most of the mistakes the judges made aren't on video replays, but are because they don't call for a mono-ii after a very close match. It's hard to know why this occurs. I'm guessing poor positioning, poor eyesight, and poor judgment each play a role. 4. It is NOT a problem to not have the judges review the video tape. This is what happens in baseball: if a close play is challenged the umpire's call is reviewed by people looking at video replays in an office in New York. They look at the replays. They can only overrule the umpire's call if the video review is conclusive that the call was wrong. In many cases it is not conclusive: the play is too close or the angles available are not conclusive. In this case the original call stands. The same rule should be in effect in sumo. In any case, the sumo judging system is antiquated, and this won't be the last time five ill-trained, unprofessional, and biased judges make a mistake. Let's just hope it's the last one that determines a yusho.
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    Natsu basho 2019 discussions [SPOILERS]

    As to the mono-ii and reversal of the gyoji's decision of the Tochinoshin-Asanoyama match, I think sumo would benefit by looking at the larger issue involved in the judging. For what it's worth, I see no evidence that Tochinoshin touched out - no heel print, no sand displaced or kicked up - so how a gyoji's decision is reversed by inconclusive evidence seems justifiably criticized. But that decision, good, bad, or ugly, is now history. The more useful question is how can we prevent getting in this situation again. The "judges" of course, aren't judges in any accepted western or sports sense. Do you know any other sport where the judges are people with no training at judging, no qualifications as to eyesight (and it's pretty clear some of them don't see that well) or judgment, and no objectivity, but are instead judges based only on the fact that they formerly were players. Does anyone want Maradona refereeing a World Cup game? Or any other former great player at any sport being a judge or referee based on his being a great (or merely good) player? And yes, those are rhetorical questions, because the clear answer is "no". Moreover, not only aren't the sumo judges qualified in any objective sense, they aren't even objective - they all have members of their heya wrestling. By definition you couldn't be in a more biased position. So the whole system is out of whack - the judges are middle aged men who have no business judging the bouts and, as we've seen time and time again, aren't especially good at it. You don't see former rikishi as gyoji. Let's have sumo move into the 21st century and actually use trained, qualified judges. I'm not holding my breath on this one, of course. Maybe we'll be lucky and it will be another 50 years before they screw up another key match. But I'd bet under the current system they'll make another mistake in makuuchi next basho. And the ones after that, until the system itself is improved.
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    Natsu basho 2019 discussions [SPOILERS]

    I usually find Gurowake's comments well=reasoned and incisive, but couldn't disagree with him more on his take on yesterday's debacle more. While it's true that Tochinoshin hasn't looked like an Ozeki in his last three bouts - although he certainly did in his first eight wins - that's completely irrelevent to whether he will or should become an Ozeki based on this basho. If he wins 10 matches he gets automatically repromoted - how he looks has nothing to do with it. As for his "gut feeling" that Tochinoshin won't be able to sustain Ozekihood again for 9 basho (anyone want to bet that Goeido will make another 10? Takakeishi? Takayasu?) that's fine. But if it doesn't happen it actually does mean he's wrong. In fact, it's the very definition that he's wrong. It's fine to note that it's just one of a range of possibilities, but that's true of any prediction. And if someone makes a prediction that doesn't pan out, they were wrong.
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    21 Natsu 19, The Results

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    Happy Birthday Randomitsuki

    Alles Gute zum Geburtstag, Rando!
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    Haru 2019 SB Masters Results

    Five yusho for Haidouzo is simply astounding. Pandaazuma tops Randomitsuki's venerable most points in a basho record only to hold it for a mere one basho and have Haidouzo set an astonishing new record. As for Norizo, he wins three basho - three! - and finishes seventh for the basho in total points. I can't image that's ever happened before. Congratulations for all the top finishers who saw through the fog of the dohyo and made such great predictions.
  23. Congratulations on the great job you did in Toto. 

    1. Atenzan


      Thank you very much! It's only my second or third basho playing it, so it's extremely encouraging. 

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    Haru Basho 2019 Discussion [SPOILERS]

    It's interesting that Ichinojo will only get one prize despite being the jun yusho winner, and most likely with a very impressive 14-1 record. It's been a long time since someone has finished 14-1 and not won the yusho or at least been in a playoff for it. It's also interesting that the winner of the Aoiyama - Tomokaze bout gets a prize, while the loser gets bumpkiss. Finally, it's additionally interesting that five rikishi need to win today to avoid (likely) divisional demotion (Chiyoshoma, Daishoho, Terutruyoshi, Kotoeko, and Ishiura) and another rank demotion (Tochinoshin - and, as I believe Gurowake has pointed out, it's possible a win by Mitakeumi might save his rank as well). There will also be 8 rikishi fighting for their kk today. So there is a lot at stake in most of the senshuraku "undercard" matches.
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    Haru Basho 2019 Discussion [SPOILERS]

    Just another fortnight (plus one day) at the office for Hakuho. And he'll top it off extending his own yusho and zensho yusho record. I love it when people post here about how Hakuho will never win another zensho yusho, or how he is declining and almost finished. As if! Still, I suppose if is posted long enough some day it will come true. Just as decline will come for all of us. But mark my words, we ALL will miss him when he's gone. And we will never see another dai yokozuna as great as him. Maybe there will be one in the next century. But for people born in the year 2100, don't go holding your breath....