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Posts posted by Muhomatsu
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Yes - there are a few transfers like that where the "legacy" lives on under a new name:
Think: Irumagawa to Ikazuchi
The old Naruto to Tagonoura, on the death of the former Naruto and the weird succession crisis with the stock certificate.
Hanaregoma was Nishonoseki was Matsugane.
Tokiwayama was Chiganoura.
Nishonoseki was Araiso briefly.
Oshima did close - was merged to Tomozuna - and then re-emerged independent after being shuttered for years.
Even Taiho to Otake is like this - with an ichidai toshiyori twist.
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Sakaigawa is 62 - so less than three years away from mandatory retirement age.
The new Furiwake could be a successor to the heya, if he does not think Sekinoto (moto-Iwakiyama) or Yamashina (moto-Toyohibiki) are worthy to inherit the stable. Of course, he could let Furiwake branch out, since he has enough top division basho to do it - and that would ensure Sekinoto or Yamashina could have their own stable. And maybe moto-Hochiyama could get his own kabu.
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What are the odds for a trade between Keisho and Tochinohana of kabu at some point in the future - so that he obtains Hatachiyama and can re-open that stable in the old premises? There could be some money exchanging hands in such a deal, but that would all be done under the table.
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Here is the list:
1: Chiyonoumi- Kokonoe ‘s former Jūryō former NSSU did damage in lower divisions not so successful in a few sekitori basho
2: Arauma- Isenoumi Mongolian slot open former Dōshisha University
3: Tokisōma- Tokitsukaze Mongolian slot open
4: Ōki - Shikoroyama former Jūryō Was winless in his only sekitori appearance
5: Teraoumi- Shikoroyama never even made Makushita during his long career
6: Daishōmune- Oitekaze also never made makushita despite a long career - but came close
7: Kototora- Sadogatake another lower division lifer
8: Kenyū- Isegahama another lower division lifer - former Miyagino
9: Takabahō - Isegahama and another ex-Miyagino rikishi is gone
10: Asabenkei - Takasago Former Jūryō a big man who spent many tournaments in the paid ranks
11: Oyamazakura- Shikihide A young recruit , oft injured
千代の海(九重)荒馬(伊勢ノ海)時蒼馬(時津風)王輝、寺尾海(以上、錣山)大翔宗(追手風)琴虎(佐渡ケ嶽)絢雄、高馬鵬(以上、伊勢ケ浜)朝弁慶(高砂)小山桜(式秀)
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Seems Isegahama-Miyagino’s Takabahō has also retired post bashō.
https://x.com/chanco_mattun/status/1804123164970016939?s=46&t=HBPauvM-UWrZDJhlhbhfWg- 1
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Nishonoseki X (Twitter) introduces us to their recruit Furuta, from Takehara City in Hiroshima Prefecture. He is coming out of Takehara High School and should be joining in Nagoya.
https://x.com/nishonosekibeya/status/1803357426869325986
We will have one opponent for him, at least, as the Natsu Basho introduced us to a Mongolian recruit out of Hokkaido for Takekuma Beya (Bataar Munkh) (https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=12889&l=e). I have heard his shikona is 豪聖山 (GŌSEIZAN).
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1 hour ago, Koorifuu said:SumoDB is down for me, so I can't confirm the exact timeline;
But he fluked a sandanme yusho very early in his career, got absolutely battered in makushita two months later, and sadly never looked like he was even close to getting another chance in more than 10 years. Hope his post-ozumo life goes well.
I think he was only in the playoffs. Hōchiyama won that Sandanme yūshō and promptly retired afterwards.
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I like to think of 尾車 as “caboose”.
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You still have a lot of loyal sumo viewers - even if Rumble's ads are from some sort of weird dystopian nightmare.
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The lack of the Oitekaze “翔” in Daimasakari may be further proof of his future in a stable led by Daieishō (maybe as Takashima Oyakata). Speculation high, but we heard he was an uchi-deshi for Daieishō and Takashima had a weird cross ichimon move.
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I do not often look at the signatures for changes. I was wondering if it was something hot springs related until I read it and first wondered if you had gone mad. Then it hit me...
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Not sure if I should take Kintamayama's new signature personally or not...
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It’s all over the Japanese media now.
I loved watching him in the 90s! He and his rivals helped me get into the sport! -
3 hours ago, Kamitsuumi said:He is now listed as san'yo.
As is Hanakago.
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He is still listed as as 役員待遇委員 here. https://www.sumo.or.jp/ResultRikishiDataSumoBeya/detail/10016/ and on the official duties list.
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9 hours ago, Yamanashi said:I think Asanoyama's infraction may have involved a snack hostess or two, but as the COVID years move off in our rear view mirrors, it may seem less evil to sneak out during curfew than to harm inferiors and display psychopathic behavior. And Hokuseiho has been a Sekitori for at least ten basho, so he should have figured out how to comport himself (if that were possible).
It’s not in the rearview mirrors for those who love immune-compromised friends and family members.
Most don’t want to think of Covid as a problem anymore. I get it. I wish I could do that, too. I think most people don’t want to think of the pandemic as a problem because, if they do, they know they will have to change the way they act and how they live. Or recognize the complete failure of public health across the pandemic. Of course, there are other solutions. Instead of “as we look back on the pandemic”; keep it in the current tense and advocate for measures to help- clean air in schools, offices, and health care- access to PREP medications, and additional sick leave.
pretending the problem no longer exists won’t help anyone- 3
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14 hours ago, MrGrumpyGills said:Whorehouse? IIRC they went drinking with supporters, which yes, was forbidden at the time and they were appropriately punished for it. As for putting people's lives at risk, certainly not literally, most likely not even figuratively.
You obviously don’t live with elderly family members with lung cancer and immune problems. Or at least wish such people don’t exist, so you don’t have to think about how certain behaviors do put people’s lives at risk.
Grrr. This mentality makes me so mad. Look at excess deaths. Look at excess illnesses. The figures are there. The deaths occurred and are occurring. Lives are at risk, even if that fact makes you uncomfortable.
Edit: one more word- Shōbushi (勝武士).
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It is this one. 峰
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And Takashima moving to Oitekaze could be the answer to the Daieishō kabu question. We know Daieishō picked up his first uchi-deshi in January.
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And (at least yesterday) the total wins in Hatsu 2024 did not equal total losses. Thus, there is an error somewhere in the records of rikishi in the current basho. The error was +2. So, it is likely a victory was given to both rikishi in a bout.
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Rikishi will be asked what stable they want to join.
all per an interview in this article
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/expert/articles/da77cdf7badf15726b9e58372458eea1b51093d3
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Shinzan has retired, as has Raō and Miyakogawa.
Hidenoyama-beya
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I have a question about Sadogatake-beya after these four uchi-deshi moved to join Hidenoyama-beya. I recall a few years' back (pre-Covid) that Sadogatake was one of the heya with the most rikishi in it and I have the impression that it has massively shrunk in size. It has 18 wrestlers now, making it still a large stable - but it has lost many wrestlers since the start of the pandemic. I count 6 retirements in 2020 (including Kotoshogiku who stayed as oyakata), 10 retirements in 2021 (a large wave in May 2021 and also Kotoyuki, who stayed as oyakata), and 12 retirements from 2022-24 (including Kotoeko and Kotoyusho, who stayed as oyakata and wakamonogashira, respectively). This means 28 wrestlers retired during that period.There have been only eight recruitments since that time, four of whom were uchi-deshi of Hidenoyama - so only four "Sadogatake" recruits over the same period. That means the stable has shrunk by 24 rikishi over the period 2021-2024 - or by more than 50%. I wonder if the stories of serving rotten meat and poor treatment of wrestlers are true and taking their toll over time.