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    YDC convenes as usual

    I think you'll find that less than 8 is a mk for any sekitori
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    Ooshima beya-future?

    I guess that Kyokutenho had it right all along, didn't he? Amazing turn up for the books. I wonder what Oshima oyakata thinks of this?
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    ESU VS Ukraine lawsuit

    My understanding of the ESU statutes is that the position is not tied to maintaining a position in your own national federation. Some relevant statutes are: 10.3. The members of the Directing Committee shall hold office for at least four years in the position to which they were elected. At the expiry of their term Committee members may offer themselves for re-election.   Article 11 - President 11.1. The President is elected by the Congress. He directs the ESU and represents it before third parties. 11.2. In case of absence of the President by reason of resignation or for any other reason the Presidency shall be assumed by the first Vice President. The interim President shall serve until the next Congress where the Congress will elect a new President. 11.3 The President must comply with the ESU Statutes, Rules, Regulations and decisions. The President chairs Congresses and DC meetings. The President has the right to entrust DC members and Commissions to solve specific problems and to appoint, with the approval of the DC, temporary Working Groups. Long-time ESU President, Gunther Romenath, was not (I believe) the head of the German federation for all of his tenure as ESU President
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    Women's sumo Japan

    This was actually the second of such tournaments held in Hokkaido. Both sought to play on the previous obscurity of women performing sumo (prior to female amateur sumo in the mid-90s). Kawayu Onsen held an annual tournament from 1972 to 2003, and Fukushima began their annual tournament in 1991 in a bid to harness the appeal and the rarity of women performing sumo to attract visitors.
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    gyōji dress

    From memory, the outfits that the gyoji wear at honbasho are styled on outfits that the Ashikaga shogun wore. This means we are talking the period 1336–1573. These styles were chosen to give sumo a visible sense of antiquity but only appeared in the early 20th century. I believe it was around 1909/10, when a number of other developments took place in preofessional sumo. Prior to that, gyoji wore the formal attire of the day, with winged shoulders. Check out examples here
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    Bulgarian Ozeki & Family

    I love the little kesho-mawashi.
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    ESU VS Ukraine lawsuit

    I'm going a little off topic, but the Olympics did away with exhibition sports in the 1990s and moved to the two tiers of fully recognised and provisionally recognised sports that occur now. Broadly speaking, the fully recognised sports have the Olympic Games and the provisionally recognised sports have the World Games. Exhibition sports used to be brought in by the host city/nation and was a pathway for certain sports to obtain a spot in the Olympic programme. This gave the host nations a major role in the sports that appeared in their Olympics and (possibly) thereafter. Although it was never an exhibition sport, judo's place in the Olympics owed everything to Tokyo being the host in 1964. The IFS was working under this illusion when they made announcements that Olympic bids by Osaka (for 2008) and Tokyo (2016) would be positive for sumo. These decisions are now made centrally by the IOC and decided 7 years ahead of the Games in question. This also explains the flagging interests in some quarters of amateur sumo when it was announced in 2001 that Beijing, not Osaka, would host the 2008 Olympics.
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    Natsu Basho 2012 - Discussion

    Well, Chiyotairyu did start in makushita, so he didn't have to go through the lower ranks like Boody will have to. This will add some time to Boody's rise, even if he is wildly successful in each basho and climbs quickly. Chiyotairyu also had 4 years of college sumo behind (which would be the equivalent of lower makushita IMO), so he came in with much of the skill required.
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    New recruits-May 2012

    Not much of a qualification for heading into ozumo. Fifth grade would have been about 7 years ago for him. I wonder what has happened since? Hopefully he has some fundamentals from that experience.
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    Isenoumi beya moves to Tokyo - Bunkyo ward

    Does anyone know where exactly in Bunkyo-ku this is? It was my stomping ground for a while, so I'd be interested to know its whereabouts for future reference.
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    Surplus Snark from Sumo Books written in English

    (OT) My apologies for replying in a locked topic. I had the reply window open prior to the topoic being locked as I was writing my response in MS Word because of the different quotes. I then copied what I had written into the open window and posted. I'm not sure if it was because the window was already open, or because I have Mod powers, but the reply got through.
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    If Chris is really retiring from the Sumoforum, then I'm sorry to see him go. As I replied in the other thread, I feel my comment on his self-publishing might have contributed. I hope also that there really is not a problem with hypertension or, if there is, that it can be controlled by medication. Working within medical insurance, I come across some of the effects of uncontrolled hypertension and how it affects those with it.
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    More UKSA....

    That’s a shame that you deleted the email without opening and therefore didn’t have a chance to answer my questions. I’ll paste it here instead: Hi Mark, Following on from the SF thread, I'm interested to know who in Japan (and the UK) recognises the UKSA. I take your point about a number of the national federations being in name alone, but the Rules of the IFS clearly set out how a federation can lose its qualification and how another can take over. Similarly, the same rules also state only one federation per country. I presume the definition of country would fall under IOC guidelines now that the IFS is part of the wider Olympic Movement. This means the the BSF and UKSA would be in direct competition. I realise that the UKSA's goals are rather broad and do not relate solely to amateur sumo, but Goal #3 on the UKSA website states: "3. To be recognized as the representative organization of sumo in the UK by relevant domestic sporting authorities and to work with such authorities to further promote #1 above." This implies some desire to replace the BSF, if I am not mistaken. Aside from bringing the sport into disrepute or being insolvent, the key way for a national federation to be expelled is inactivity. With a rather generous 5 years in which to only be active at a continental level, the British Sumo Federation would not qualify to be expelled, would it? Regards, Howard
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    Surplus Snark from Sumo Books written in English

    It seems I might have touched a nerve with Chris. I don’t think there is any criticism of his content, the fact that he has written the books, or jealousy on my part. I merely suggested that a publishing house editor would have tightened the copy, based on the pages that I read via the preview. To be honest, having been back on the forum only 2 days for the first time in about a year, I didn’t put two and two together to realize that Sotonokuni was Chris. I certainly don’t have a problem with people looking at my writing, and I must add that Chris (and Mark) have edited my work on the contributions I made to the Sumo fan Magazine. make sure you do it mind. Don't say it is being done, on its way and not do it! Not good form that. Eh Howard? See below The email never stopped working, but the user did for a while! (My university email did stop, but you were copying to my Hotmail address as well). It's a shame that you didn't want to answer my queries about the UKSA. I'll deal with that in the other thread, but will address what you are referring to in respect to the Amateur Angles column of Sumo Fan Magazine. I think I’d run out of ideas for the time after having contributed 25 columns and having become increasingly distant from the world of international amateur sumo. I didn’t put anything forward for SFM issue #34 but I’ll also put my hand up and say that I should have been more forthcoming in my communication around mid-December 2010 and January 2011 regarding not having much to contribute at that time. Sorry, it was a busy time, and we all get that way occasionally. So, perhaps more ‘honesty’ in that sense, but I didn’t promise the earth and not deliver. I guess I’ve done the same with the SF over the past 12 months, and probably for a while before that as well. Life had other priorities for that time. Again, my apologies for not being more communicative, and I fully support your decision to move on. I’d mostly been a bit difficult in making deadlines, and then needing to be chased (thanks Chris). Fully support the SFM and hope it goes well. I must confess I haven’t read it for a while, but I’ve explained already that I’ve also been off the forum.
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    Sumo Books written in English

    Did I miss something here? I thought it was Sasanishiki who was complaining about lack of editing in someone else's book. Orion Yes, you are correct. I was referring to the parts of Chris' books that I read through the preview function. Interesting material but needs tightening. I have no plans to write a book just at the moment - once bitten, twice shy with the PhD thesis! Family, my regular employment, and a side business are not conducive to finding enough quality time to write. I'm pinching time from all quarters as it is to get through what's on my plate. I'm plodding through co-writing (with Katrina) a book chapter that is to be part of a volume of examples of Japan and internationalisation. This stemmed from a conference we presented at last year. That's the only thing related to sumo that I'm working on.
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    More UKSA....

    Will email you. You are right about a number of the national sumo federations that are recognised by the IFS. However, the rules for a federation being expelled, thus having its qualification revoked, and the for another federation to be recognised are covered off in Chapter 3 in the Rules on the IFS website:
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    More UKSA....

    Ok, now I'm interested. Do you mind divulging who recognises the UKSA in the UK and Japan? Which does the IFS recognise?
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    Sumo Books written in English

    Self-publishing can be quite interesting, especially if the writing is good. I had a quick scan through the free-view pieces of the first book. Interesting inside content but it wanders in a "and then...and then... and then..." kind of way. It would have been good to see an editor really pare this back to make it punchier. You can tell also from the very elongated contents pages in both books that it needs to be tightened, or at least would be if released by a publishing house.
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    World Championship 2011 in Egypt cancelled?

    I really think the IFS needs to consider moving to having the SWC every second year and making sure it is a fabulous event. That said, I expect that everything will be fine next year with it being scheduled for Hong Kong. Mr Mak, the head of HK sumo, is very well respected by the Japanese members of the IFS executive (which is about all of them) and will secure the necessary funding to back up the event.
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    Sumo in Nigeria

    Nice. Mr Tanaka and Nichidai took him under their wing prior to the Sumo Worlds and were pleasantly surprised that he won a medal. Mr T wrote about him in his autobiography.
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    Olympic sumo- new hope?

    I wrote about this in my thesis, and may possibly have written the same in Sumo Fan Mag: the goal of the Olympics gives the IFS legitimacy as well. By having everyone band together to strive for a (very distant) goal, it allows the IFS to maintain its hold on power, and perhaps stops everyone from realising how horribly undemocratic the institution is. If the focus is on the Olympics, and the IFS top table are the ones who are striving to deliver that, then everyone is expected to fall in behind. The implicit threat is that, if you challenge the status quo, then you risk a) bringing the Olympic dream done by having a fractured organisation, and b) miss the chance for your federation to be involved when sumo beccomes part of the Olympics (cough, cough). What I would like to see is much more effort put into the here and now to build the base (the #1 in Asashosakari's post). With this in place, amasumo will be strong and will stand on its own. If this occurs, it makes the possibility of the Olympics much stronger but also creates a meaningful existence until that becomes a relaity (if it will at all). What is often lost in this is, why did amasumo become international? Was it a groundswell of support in other countries demanding the chance to compete in and against Japan. Basically, no. Aside from competitions in Hawaii, the west coast of USA and South America, built around Japanese diaspora) amasumo largely did not exist, and was not formalised in the way we know it today. Japan invited these groups in order to foster international ties. Then someone came up with the idea of having international tournaments. These ran through the 80s and involved invited countries competing in tournamnets alongside prefectural teams from Japan. This model then evolved into the Sumo World Champs in 1992. One of the reasons to internationalise amasumo was to make it appealing to Japanese youth. I've specifically seen it written in Chikara, the magazine of the Nihon Sumo Renmei, some time in the 80s that Japanese youngsters had options of other sports that had international opportunities (baseball in particular, but soccer was also considered) and so it was good if sumo could offer the same opportunities. Now that we have parts of the world interested in amasumo, it is time to nurture that, make it sustainable and grow from there. What also needs to be reflected in this is the participation of a number of countries, and that goes into the administration and halls of power as well. Unfortunately, the Olympic dream has attracted people who wanted to use the sport for their own ends. There is no coincidence that a number dropped out in 2001 when it was announced that Beijing, not Osaka, would host the 2008 Olympics (despite the flawed assumption that japanese host city = sumo's inclusion - as I have said above).
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    Female Sumo in Mongolia

    Aside from the "Mongolians have entered professional sumo and been successful" angle, that article could be written of any country that has female amasumo athletes. Nothing particularly new, except to hear that there are good numbers in Mongolia. Can anyone enlighten as to whether there is female Mongolian wrestling (naadam, is it?) or whether that has always been a male-only pursuit? If it is male only, I wonder if the rise in females in amasumo is putting any sort of pressure on female participation in Mongolian wrestling?
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    Amasumo in Eastern Europe-the big boom

    Send a PM to kenzo. He should be able to confirm the contact details. I don't know how far you are from Rotterdam, but that is where the Dutch team trains (used to anyway - not sure on their numbers now). Again, kenzo will be able to put you in the picture.
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    European Sumo Union Presidential Election

    Being held today, I see. I think probably Stoyanov for president. I'm interested in the VP role. Mr Antonov has been around for a while, but I think the ESU members might vote for the Frenchman.