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  2. Posted · Edited by Doitsuyama

    On 26/02/2025 at 19:23, Asashosakari said:

    Not really a bug report at this stage, more a note to self and maybe others for further investigation: Today I stumbled upon a match in 1944 that ostensibly had Takasago-beya rikishi on both sides of the dohyo, which made me check if there are further cases in the DB. There are, quite a few in fact. I would guess that most (all?) of them are a matter of incomplete heya histories that obscure that two rikishi actually weren't in the same heya at the time of their torikumi, but that's going to require research into each case. For now, all heya for which the bout query turned up results other than playoff matches:

    Dewanoumi - various sekitori matches from 1909 to 1940, then two lower division matches in 1966 and 1968 (with a common rikishi)
    Futagoyama - three matches in 1982 with a common rikishi, two more in 1992 and 1994
    Irumagawa - one match in 1913
    Isegahama - one match in 1992
    Isenoumi - three matches in 1968 and 1970, all with a common rikishi (Nagasawa = Kiyozakura)
    Kitanoumi - one match in 1989
    Kokonoe - one match in 1970, another in 1994
    Kumegawa - one match in 1937
    Minezaki - three matches in 1910 to 1912 with a common rikishi
    Takasago - 15 matches with a common rikishi from 1925 to 1934, 8 more with another one from 1944 to 1947
    Tatsunami - 14 matches from 1924 to 1928, all with a single common rikishi

    Not sure what's going to be easier to investigate, the questionable sekitori matches of old or the more recent cases in the lower divisions.


    (And last not least, one case that we know to be true and real: Asahiyama - a maezumo match in 2019, noted as a screw-up as it happened.)

    I looked at all these cases and could clear up most of them, for rikishi who reached makuuchi the japanese wikipedia has a heya history, but sometimes with unclear time of the change - here the kabu history in sumo reference often was very helpful, leaving only a few debatable cases where I assumed the time of the heya change. Some lower division cases I could solve because they were obviously part of a bigger heya move and it's clear from the shikona convention which of the two involved rikishi moved. There still are some cases left where I have no clue, four with a single bout (Isegahama, Kitanoumi, Kokonoe and Kumegawa), the remaining case in Dewanoumi with two bouts and the Isenoumi case with one common rikishi in 3 bouts.

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  4. Posted

    5 hours ago, mugatake said:

    Is this of any use?

    (There may be other missing banzuke in there, but let's start with the one.)

    The banzuke itself is not that great to read indeed. I guess I could add the missing banzuke down to M4, just need a good bit of time to write all this down.

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  5. Posted

    On 08/11/2024 at 07:35, mugatake said:

    There's something odd with some of the very oldest banzukes in the database (accuracy aside). The plain banzuke view seems to have an error which causes no navigation arrow to be provided for years in which only one basho is listed. However, one of the two intended arrows does appear for Fuyu 1761 - and the issue does not affect 1946 at all, despite it also having only one basho.

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    The navigation arrow is missing when the banzuke is not known for the basho in question. In your screenshot for example there should be a banzuke for 1761 Haru but I don't have it (and maybe noone has it anymore), so there is a broken link by design. You still can navigate with the drop down selection.

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  6. Posted

    On 30/10/2024 at 01:15, Asashosakari said:

    Is it intentional that the query doesn't pick up makuuchi debuts that happened to be in sanyaku rather than at a maegashira rank? Yokozuna Miyagiyama does not show up in a query for 1927.01 debuts, while the other five rikishi who merged in from Osaka do (plus one "normal" makuuchi debut via promotion from juryo).

    (Double-checked with Aioi in 1911.02, the last rikishi to debut as komusubi, so it's not just an isolated matter affecting Miyagiyama alone. No sanyaku-on-debut rikishi show up in general.)

    That's a known issue and a database limitation. I have only markers for rank debuts, not division debuts, and the "Makuuchi debut" feature actually uses the maegashira rank debut which is in general ok since not many makuuchi debuts are higher than maegashira...

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  7. Posted

    On 09/09/2023 at 22:10, Kaitetsu said:

    Should Kuniazuma's english page show when he changed his shikona kanji? Or somehow is this just an error in the japanese page?

    No, shikona kanji changes are only shown on the japanese page. The english page only shows changes in readings. 

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  8. Posted

    3 hours ago, Oskanohana said:

    A suggestion that would require a change of rules but may ease the coding burden (although a code change should be made):

    What if the sub replaces the highest kyujo rikishi from your line-up on each day?

    This way instead of the rules being longer than an EULA, it'd just state this simple fact. The sub value will go up, and I measure his value right now to be quite high. It's a little bit of chaos compared to the way subs work in games like paper oyakata, but I kind of prefer the Hoshitori way.

    (Clappingwildly...)

    Interesting idea, but the current way still must be supported in terms of database and reporting, so it doesn't sound like it is making my life all that much easier.

  9. Posted

    On 24/05/2024 at 11:10, Pandaazuma said:

    Not that bothered but thought I should mention this interesting Hoshitori bug because, with all the kyujo, quite a few other players may be affected too.

    This is my Hoshitori line-up

    https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Hoshi/HoshPlayerBasho.aspx?p=810&b=202405

    The useless Tobizaru filled in for Takayasu as he should have and then Wakamotoharu when he went on a drinking holiday but it begs the question why he isn't filling in for Kirishima in the 4 slot. Does he dislike him that much??

    @Doitsuyama

    Well, the code for these fill-ins already is pretty complicated, so it is limited to two fill-ins per basho. Maybe it would be better to officially state this in the rules to reflect the scoring, but this is way it works, sorry.

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  10. Posted

    17 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

    Fixed-the wizard has visited us and all is well. Too bad he can't fix my 2-11 record as well.

    But of course I can fix your 2-11 record. I will PM you my bank account. (Beinghypocrite...)

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  13. Posted

    Ms1w Takerufuji lost on day 6 to Hakuyozan which was the first time he lost to a rikishi without university background. Before that his career record was 39-5 with all losses coming to university rikishi. I'm not sure how to put that into some kind of record, like most bouts to start the career without losing to a non-university rikishi, but it seemed remarkable to me.

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  16. Posted · Edited by Doitsuyama
    Solved the display problem

    On 12/04/2023 at 06:31, Chiyotasuke said:

    The shikona given name changes for Haru 2022 are not updated. I assume it was set aside because of Kaiyuma's name mystery.

    The mysterious kanji seems to be 祐 indeed.

    EDIT: If the kanji doesn't work or you're not sure, can you at least update the other names?

    It had nothing to do with this kanji, I just somehow missed it. The names are updated, but weirdly the new kanji displays the same as the old kanji on the SumoDB website - if you copy it and paste somewhere else it is visible as new kanji. Probably it is a matter of the font, but I'm not sure how to fix this.

    Edit: I modified the website to use a different font-family if Japanese language is on and it displays correctly now. Not really happy with the result yet, but I will have another look later.

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  17. Posted

    It's not very often that the Juryo yusho winner has more wins than the makuuchi yusho winner, but it's not super rare as well as this basho was the 27th time in the 15 day era that it happened. But it is the first time that this happened two basho in a row as it already was the case in Hatsu 2023. And it's only the third time after Haru 1954 and Kyushu 2007 that not only one, but two Juryo rikishi had more wins than any Makuuchi rikishi.

    While I'm on this topic, last basho and this basho were the 5th and 6th time in the 15 day era that the Juryo yusho winner had two more wins than the makuuchi yusho winner and the first two times featuring 14 to 12 wins (Haru 2006, Kyushu 1961, Haru 1955 were 15-0 by future Ozeki and Kyushu 1996 had a 5 rikishi tie at 11-4 in Makuuchi).

     

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  18. Posted

    23 hours ago, Koorifuu said:

    I did think the idea was something like "the time is NOW" but that's better.

    HOWEVER, I hope the kanji don't read Agoura instead of Agora, as it changes from "now" to a form of the verb "to jinx". (Agourar/agoirar)


    (To the language nerds, that's the indicative present, third person singular form of "to jinx" i.e. he jinxes something.)

    The kanji read Agoura, but apparently this means something very different from what you think it means. The "ou" in Japanese transcription means a long "o", there is nothing of the "u", while the "ou" in Agourar is an o and an u, something completely different. 

  24. Posted

    1 hour ago, Akinomaki said:

    I forgot that Asahifuji even graduated  - he reentered Kindai while being active - he was officially in the sumo club there https://kindaipicks.com/article/002123

    He was 20 when he joined ozumo and was close to two years member of the club, shouldn't that be enough then to have it on his page, like here: https://sumo-guide.com/kinki-university#i-24

    Sure, that's enough, so I added it now. It's pretty similar to Miyabiyama after all. 

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  25. Posted

    15 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

    Is being no graduate no reason to exclude the rikishi (for now)? Asahifuji is not listed as from the Kindai sumo club, but Suyama, who has not graduated yet, from Todai.

    Being a graduate is no requirement, just officially being in the sumo club of the university.