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It is kind of amazing that the article didn't mention Takakeisho and Atamifuji.
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On 15/06/2023 at 21:43, mugatake said:11th yokozuna Shiranui's personal name is given as "Kotsuemon" in both the English and Japanese version of the page.
I'm not sure what is wrong here?
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On 12/04/2023 at 06:31, Chiyotasuke said:The shikona given name changes for Haru 2022 are not updated. I assume it was set aside because of Kaiyuma's name mystery.
The mysterious kanji seems to be 祐 indeed.
EDIT: If the kanji doesn't work or you're not sure, can you at least update the other names?
It had nothing to do with this kanji, I just somehow missed it. The names are updated, but weirdly the new kanji displays the same as the old kanji on the SumoDB website - if you copy it and paste somewhere else it is visible as new kanji. Probably it is a matter of the font, but I'm not sure how to fix this.
Edit: I modified the website to use a different font-family if Japanese language is on and it displays correctly now. Not really happy with the result yet, but I will have another look later.
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It's not very often that the Juryo yusho winner has more wins than the makuuchi yusho winner, but it's not super rare as well as this basho was the 27th time in the 15 day era that it happened. But it is the first time that this happened two basho in a row as it already was the case in Hatsu 2023. And it's only the third time after Haru 1954 and Kyushu 2007 that not only one, but two Juryo rikishi had more wins than any Makuuchi rikishi.
While I'm on this topic, last basho and this basho were the 5th and 6th time in the 15 day era that the Juryo yusho winner had two more wins than the makuuchi yusho winner and the first two times featuring 14 to 12 wins (Haru 2006, Kyushu 1961, Haru 1955 were 15-0 by future Ozeki and Kyushu 1996 had a 5 rikishi tie at 11-4 in Makuuchi).
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23 hours ago, Koorifuu said:I did think the idea was something like "the time is NOW" but that's better.
HOWEVER, I hope the kanji don't read Agoura instead of Agora, as it changes from "now" to a form of the verb "to jinx". (Agourar/agoirar)
(To the language nerds, that's the indicative present, third person singular form of "to jinx" i.e. he jinxes something.)The kanji read Agoura, but apparently this means something very different from what you think it means. The "ou" in Japanese transcription means a long "o", there is nothing of the "u", while the "ou" in Agourar is an o and an u, something completely different.
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2 hours ago, Akinomaki said:Miyabiyama is the third
Well, I meant the other two besides Miyabiyama as he was mentioned in the post just above mine..
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21 hours ago, Wakawakawaka said:Fun fact: If Takakeisho gets promoted after the March tournament and Terunofuji doesn't compete, it will be the first time since at least 1927 that someone got promoted to Yokozuna without facing, let alone beating an Ozeki/Yokozuna.
You can't really count Miyagiyama as he became Yokozuna in 1922 with Osaka sumo which merged 1927 with the NSK.
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The other two are Wajima and Musoyama.
Jokoryu came very close to do it from mae-zumo as he went 27-0 before losing the yusho decider from Ms15e.
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Hmm, a bintsuke perfume would be interesting, no?
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3 hours ago, Chartorenji said:Would make him the first TD to win on his debut in I think 20 or so years?
Last time was Shimoda in Natsu 2006. The banzuke was crowded and so he didn't get promoted to Juryo. Sadly it turned out that he'll never got to the paid ranks.
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1 hour ago, Akinomaki said:I forgot that Asahifuji even graduated - he reentered Kindai while being active - he was officially in the sumo club there https://kindaipicks.com/article/002123
He was 20 when he joined ozumo and was close to two years member of the club, shouldn't that be enough then to have it on his page, like here: https://sumo-guide.com/kinki-university#i-24
Sure, that's enough, so I added it now. It's pretty similar to Miyabiyama after all.
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15 hours ago, Akinomaki said:Is being no graduate no reason to exclude the rikishi (for now)? Asahifuji is not listed as from the Kindai sumo club, but Suyama, who has not graduated yet, from Todai.
Being a graduate is no requirement, just officially being in the sumo club of the university.
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On 08/01/2023 at 09:31, Katooshu said:Toseiryu is a graduate of the Kyushu Institute of Information Sciences
Ok, but do they have a sumo team and was he part of it? Being a graduate is no reason to include it in the DB, there were other graduates before where the university had no sumo team or the rikishi wasn't part of it. They do have a sumo team, so the question is if he was a member?
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0-2 Kosei against 2-0 Kazenoumi and 0-3 Shokeima against 2-1 Kotosato? Switching Kosei and Kotosato would make standard mae-zumo pairings. Also you stated that only Kazenoumi is done at 3-0, but with your results Kotosato also would be done at 3-1. I guess we'll see today.
Ok, I have to agree that the video is proof enough. Very weird match-making indeed.
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4 hours ago, Yubinhaad said:West Side Story in the third session. Kazenoumi moved to 3-0 and done, tomorrow should be the last session for the rest.
X Kosei Kazenoumi O X Shokeima Kotosato O X Tsuru Negishi O X Toriyama Okano O X Sakuraba Kazeeidai O
Did you perhaps mix up Kosei and Kotosato here? 0-2 Kosei against 2-0 Kazenoumi is unusual for mae-zumo and Kotosato would also be finished at 3-1.
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This is only the second time that all makuuchi rikishi have a loss after day 4. The only other time was Kyushu 1969 and there were only 34 makuuchi rikishi back then.
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3 hours ago, Nantonoyama said:Thanks for the speedy repair!
I still wonder why it was like this... Could be because he was Ms15TD in Aki...
I didn't synch the four recruits from Aki properly with the Sumo Reference DB. Usually this gets fixed itself after a basho or two when this happens, but Kawazoe was already high up so it's tangentially related to his Ms15Td start.
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I fixed the Kawazoe bug, and added the 6 records to the DB.
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15 hours ago, Gurowake said:It wasn't too hard to fix once I started stepping through the routine in debug mode to see what it was doing. But I never thought I would need to change anything.
If you are not happy with my site, feel free to grab from the official NSK site. But be warned, you have absolutely no idea how often I had to change my code to adapt to changes on the NSK site.
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Yeah, the Japanese surely don't have such a national sport with long heritage to draw inspiration from. /s
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1 hour ago, Kaitetsu said:Aki 2022 was the first time since Hatsu 2018 (coincidentaly, Tochinoshin's maiden Yusho) that Kasugano stable had 4 sekitori.
With the almost certain demotion of Tochimaru back to Makushita, I theorize that it will be a long while until Kasugano gets 4 sekitori again, not even counting that both Tochinoshin and Aoiyama may be looking at retirement in the not-so distant future...
This seems like a dangerous bet with Tsukahara threatening to get to Juryo pretty soon.
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If the number of sanyaku gets slimmed down by two (which seems pretty likely at this point), there even will be a full maegashira 17 rank added to the bottom and I wonder what effect this will have on possible demotions...
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On 13/07/2022 at 20:10, Akinomaki said:I think it's weird that there was only one bout on day 4, why would Okuyama and Otani sit the day out? They didn't meet on day 5 as well, and it doesn't make sense to not have them meet at all as both are 2-0 against the other two. They also aren't from the same heya. I'm going to assume that they met on day 4 and that Otani won...
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23 hours ago, Ganzohnesushi said:That's funny.Why on earth did I see it on the DB already at 1:00 p.m.?
Ganzohnesushi
The database for most games is different from the Sumo Reference DB and has its own torikumi. Oh, and Golynohana's games have another database with their own torikumi. They all draw the torikumi from the main DB, but the process sometimes needs to be kicked.
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Ms1w Takerufuji lost on day 6 to Hakuyozan which was the first time he lost to a rikishi without university background. Before that his career record was 39-5 with all losses coming to university rikishi. I'm not sure how to put that into some kind of record, like most bouts to start the career without losing to a non-university rikishi, but it seemed remarkable to me.