Jokkamura

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  1. That would be Amakaze at J5w as it might be a tight schedule for Kagayaki otherwise. :)

    Juryo

    Tokitenku J1 Seiro
    Tenkaiho J2 Chiyotairyu
    Asasekiryu J3 Shohozan
    Satoyama J4 Kagayaki
    Hidenoumi J5 Kagayaki
    Tamaasuka J6 Shotenro
    Daieisho J7 Wakanosato
    Asahisho J8 Daido
    Kagamio J9 Kitaharima
    Onosho J10 Chiyoo
    Ishiura J11 Akiseyama
    Dewahayate J12 Daishomaru
    Abi J13 Nishikigi
    Wakanoshima J14 Tosayutaka

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  2. With Goeido´s promotion to Ozeki, I´ve looked at statistic about changes in Yokozuna/Ozeki ranks (i. e.: ozeki promotion/demotion, yokozuna promotion, intai) since 1958. What surprised me is that average number of bashos without such a change is 2,65. I would expect much more stabile environment in upper echelons. The same average number of bashos since 2002, when I started to follow sumo, is 3.

    BTW, if I am correct, by far the longest tenure of stabile bunch of Yokozunas and Ozekis is 21 bashos since Hatsu 1995 till Natsu 1998 (more than 3 years!) with Akebono and Takanohana as Yokozunas and Wakanohana, Musashimaru and Takanonami as Ozekis. It started by Takanohana´s Yok promotion and ended with the Yok promotion of his brother.

    That stability was mainly caused by the differences in the kyujo rules. They were able to heal and regain strength without danger of demotion then.


  3. Why creating a third sekiwake slot, if not really necessary? Ok, with 11 wins only advancing from K1w to K1e is questionable, but still a promotion. Last time an additional spot was created (for a komusubi with 11 wins) was back in Natsu 1981.

    Hatsu 1990 and Haru 2003 as well.

    But in both bashos (which my query didn't found) the komusubis not only had 11 wins but also a sansho (kanto-sho).

    And as Oshirokita noted above: By not creating a third slot you avoid thinking about Satoyama, as you can keep him in maku-uchi and demote and promote the obvious ones...

    There have been some promotions to S2 with 9 and 10 wins http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&form1_rank=K&form2_rank=S2&sort_basho=1


  4. 10 say yes/could be yes

    8 say no

    So now you're counting a maybe (which essentially is 'I don't know, we'll have to see') as a yes? Allow me to chuckle.

    No, I'm not. If you'll try reading a little more slowly, you'll plainly see that I said the majority said this _could be_ the worst crisis ever. And that's exactly what the poll responses say, sir.

    Clever semanthics. You got me.

    Now it's even. Conclusions? (Neener, neener...)


  5. For as bad as it all is... one young boy pointed out to me today that "what about all of us who are not guilty of anything but training?? Why are we punished? I hate those stupid ones who have done this.."

    If that doesn't break your heart....

    I'm also very sympathetic to all those new rikishi doing "meaningless" keiko.Penalising everybody, including the fans isn't the best way to deal with the problem.Why can't those who have been found guilty, be stood down, charged or fired???The message will soon get through

    That might need some time to decide what to do. You got to be sure that you get the right ones. And you got to make sure they would not tell the whole story. Very likely some or more of the current oyakatas have taken part during active times or might have taken action to help their rikishi keep their ranks. A fired Kasuganishiki might sell his knowledge.


  6. Call me naive, but I don't like it to be cheated. I don't like the idea that I cheer for someone who already sold his bout and I feel betrayed - thanks Kasuganishiki :-(

    I have no problem if they are KK at the end of a basho and give away a win to a friend who needs it desperately. I guess there is no way for a completely clean sport. But I don't want to accept that they take money for a favour like this.

    Then they should go gachinko all the way; voluntarily withdraw their favored tax status, become a regular corporation, and attempt to survive and be profitable at the same level that other sports organizations must. They've already taken untold billions of yen from Japan's coffers when this country's annual budget is the most debt-laden in the world; in effect, stealing from me and every other long term resident of Japan.

    I don't know why Japanese people are watching Sumo. I've been watching it for that many years because of the slight hope that there still exists a sport with tradition and values (and I think I'm not the only one). Without that illusion it's only another heartless comercial show and I feel cheated.


  7. For Kyokushuzan that might be true but I think it is an unfair statement regarding Kyokutenho. He became a Sanyaku regular in his late 20's / early 30's and even now at 36, although not as strong as he used to, is still a permanent member of the joi-jin. I think he has made a lot out of his possibilities. The fact that he is now weakening should be credited to age and not to a lack of commitment to competition.

    I'm a fan of Kyokutenho and I really think that he might have had the potential for more. These first Mongolians didn't exactly have a great time a the beginning, and Kyokushuzan was forced to totally change his style after reaching upper Makuuchi. So that doesn't really help to keep your fighting spirit up. I think Kyokutenho decided to stay in upper Makuuchi and is still able to maintain his position there without taking too much risk. Who else at his age has been able to stay up there for such a long time without the Ozeki-insurance?


  8. Since Kyokutenho-zeki has been busy not fulfilling his true potential for the last couple of years (just watch his latest two bouts), I don't see any other option.

    I have had the impression for the last year or so that Kyokutenho has been doing low risk sumo with the intent of staying injury free in low-mid level makuuchi until retirement day arrives.

    It always seemed to me that he and Kyokushuzan never really did more than they needed to savely stay in Makuuchi for a very long time.


  9. Somehow it seems to me that there are "members of organized crime groups" everywhere in Japan, playing golf, watching sumo and having a great time. They are well known for being criminal and you should not be seen with them but it's ok that they are around everywhere. (I am not worthy...)


  10. Kimurayama needs a henka coach. He successfully evaded Toyohibiki, but then he just stood there instead of moving in to finish him off.

    ...

    Looked to me as if he was permanently on the run hoping Toyohibiki would somehow decide to beat himself. No big Sumo at all. (Showing respect...)


  11. ...

    Tamakasuga

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    "I was never a type of rikishi others noticed. My goal was to catch up to their progress. I think having had opportunities to compete on the same dohyo with them was my fondest memory."

    ...

    He was there when I started watching Sumo, he became Sekiwake and stayed in the upper Maegashira ranks for a very long time. So I really noticed him and I would never have thought of him as an unnoticed rikishi. (From my point of view it's much more difficult to stay there as being Ozeki and having the chance of being kadoban from time to time.)

    So thanks, Tamakasuga, and good luck for the future!


  12. Beside of all the 'problems' in the past it still was fun to simply watch Sumo. But now they've 'successfully' worked on that. And it hasn't helped much. (I am not worthy...)

    I'm losing my enthusiasm, especially without any broadcast in Europe.


  13. Nagatanien, whose largesse had accounted for Robo's windfall....

    One of the last big secrets of Sumo is solved for me today. Im watching Bashos for about 12 years now and always woundered what "Nagatanien" might mean as it sounds funny to me. Thanks for helping. :-P :-D