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    44th Fuji TV Grand Sumo Tournament

    The just-finished 2023 tournament made me realize that the complete 2020 results were never actually posted. Juryo kyujo: Tomokaze, Irodori Preliminary Chiyootori yorikiri Hoshoryu Terunofuji yorikiri Sakigake Last 24 Kizakiumi yorikiri Kyokushuho Daiamami yorikiri Toyonoshima Sokokurai yorikiri Mitoryu Daishomaru okuridashi Kotonowaka Nishikigi uwatenage Chiyoshoma Kyokutaisei yorikiri Takagenji Asagyokusei yorikiri Hidenoumi Churanoumi oshidashi Akua Yago yorikiri Hoshoryu Daishoho yorikiri Kotoshoho Ichinojo oshidashi Wakatakakage Terunofuji tsuridashi Tobizaru Last 12 Kyokushuho yorikiri Daiamami Mitoryu tsukiotoshi Daishomaru Chiyoshoma utchari Takagenji Hidenoumi oshidashi Akua Hoshoryu yorikiri Daishoho Wakatakakage utchari Terunofuji Last 6 Kyokushuho yorikiri Daishomaru Takagenji yorikiri Hidenoumi Hoshoryu kimedashi Terunofuji Tomoe-sen final Takagenji yorikiri Kyokushuho Takagenji yorikiri Terunofuji Makuuchi intai: Goeido kyujo: Kotoyuki, (Endo) Preliminary Sadanoumi yorikiri Kotoeko Chiyomaru yorikiri Tochiozan Tsurugisho yorikiri Kaisei Ikioi hikiotoshi Tokushoryu Kiribayama kirikaeshi Ishiura Chiyotairyu yorikiri Kagayaki Terutsuyoshi hatakikomi Kotoshogiku Azumaryu yorikiri Shimanoumi Last 32 Hakuho yorikiri Meisei Sadanoumi hikkake Enho Onosho yorikiri Tochiozan Okinoumi yorikiri Daieisho Abi utchari Tsurugisho Tochinoshin yorikiri Shodai Takarafuji yorikiri Tokushoryu Yutakayama yorikiri Takayasu Takakeisho yorikiri Tamawashi Ishiura okuridashi Hokutofuji Aoiyama yorikiri Ryuden Kagayaki fusen Endo Asanoyama yorikiri Takanosho Kotoshogiku yorikiri Mitakeumi Myogiryu yorikiri Azumaryu Shohozan okuridashi Kakuryu Last 16 Hakuho shitatenage Enho Onosho okuridashi Okinoumi Tsurugisho yorikiri Shodai Tokushoryu yorikiri Takayasu Tamawashi yorikiri Ishiura Ryuden oshidashi Kagayaki Asanoyama yorikiri Mitakeumi Myogiryu yorikiri Shohozan Quarterfinals Enho okuridashi Onosho Shodai yorikiri Takayasu Tamawashi yorikiri Kagayaki Asanoyama yorikiri Myogiryu Semifinals Onosho yorikiri Takayasu Kagayaki yorikiri Myogiryu Final Takayasu oshidashi Myogiryu Kanto-sho: Myogiryu
  2. (2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015) https://www.fujitv.co.jp/events/grandsumo/index.html It's that time again for the Fuji TV-sponsored one-day prize money tournament, which will take place at the Kokugikan this Sunday, February 9th. As usual it will feature juryo division rikishi in three sections playing down to a tomoe-sen final, while the makuuchi rikishi are competing in a standard knockout bracket down to the final match. Besides the ever popular shokkiri demonstration, the bonus live programme once again features three "old boys" exhibition matches. This time: Ajigawa (ex-Aminishiki) vs Otowayama (ex-Tenkaiho) Tomozuna (ex-Kyokutenho) vs Kitajin (ex-Shotenro) Naruto (ex-Kotooshu) vs Onomatsu (ex-Daido) The first and third pairing never happened in honbasho competition, while the second stopped getting scheduled after 2011 when Kyokutenho and Shotenro became brothers-in-law. Nakamura (ex-Yoshikaze) will be joining on commentary for these matches. Update, see below. (Is this the first year since they revived the OB matches that ex-Takamisakari isn't part of them? I think it might be. Of course he's probably got bigger things on his plate right now.) In addition to the usual sale of three chanko varieties - this year presented by the Hakkaku, Sakaigawa and Takasago stables - there will also again be a lottery for ticket holders to win photo-ops with either Asanoyama, Shodai or Enho at the arena. The whole thing starts around 11:30 JST, with TV coverage as always for the makuuchi portion of the event. Satellite channel Fuji TV One will be broadcasting from 14:30 for the makuuchi dohyo-iri and the early rounds of the top division tournament, before making way for terrestrial Fuji TV from 16:05 to 17:20 for the tournament conclusion and trophy presentation. A full rebroadcast on Fuji TV One is also scheduled for 21:00 to 23:50. The draws for the two divisional tournaments were released yesterday. Juryo kyujo: Tomokaze, Irodori Preliminary Round Chiyootori - Hoshoryu Terunofuji - Sakigake Last 24 Kizakiumi - Kyokushuho Daiamami - Toyonoshima Sokokurai - Mitoryu Daishomaru - Kotonowaka Nishikigi - Chiyoshoma Kyokutaisei - Takagenji Asagyokusei - Hidenoumi Churanoumi - Akua Yago - Chiyootori/Hoshoryu Daishoho - Kotoshoho Ichinojo - Wakatakakage Terunofuji/Sakigake - Tobizaru Makuuchi intai: Goeido kyujo: Kotoyuki Preliminary Round Sadanoumi - Kotoeko Chiyomaru - Tochiozan Tsurugisho - Kaisei Ikioi - Tokushoryu Kiribayama - Ishiura Chiyotairyu - Kagayaki Terutsuyoshi - Kotoshogiku Azumaryu - Shimanoumi Last 32 (1) Hakuho - Meisei Sadanoumi/Kotoeko - Enho Onosho - Chiyomaru/Tochiozan Okinoumi - (7) Daieisho (6) Abi - Tsurugisho/Kaisei Tochinoshin - Shodai Takarafuji - Ikioi/Tokushoryu Yutakayama - (5) Takayasu (3) Takakeisho - Tamawashi Kiribayama/Ishiura - Hokutofuji Aoiyama - Ryuden Chiyotairyu/Kagayaki - (8) Endo (4) Asanoyama - Takanosho Terutsuyoshi/Kotoshogiku - Mitakeumi Myogiryu - Azumaryu/Shimanoumi Shohozan - (2) Kakuryu (I don't quite get the seeding this year... Maybe only yokozuna and ozeki are intentionally kept apart among the seeded top 8, I dunno. Or have they treated freshly-demoted Takayasu as having higher status than Asanoyama despite what the Hatsu banzuke said?)
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    47th Fuji TV ozumo tournament

    Now announced: Wakatakakage and Hoshoryu for the photo-op. Kasugayama (ex-Ikioi) vs Arashio (ex-Sokokurai) and Tomozuna (ex-Kaisei) vs Yamashina (ex-Toyohibiki) for the OB matches, Kakuryu (ex-Kakuryu) on special commentary for it. One fewer pairing than in past editions.
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    47th Fuji TV ozumo tournament

    (2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015) https://www.fujitv.co.jp/events/grandsumo/index.html It's on! After back-to-back cancellations due to the pandemic (last year's at the eleventh hour), the Fuji TV-sponsored one-day tournament is finally happening again this Sunday. No sales of heya specialty chanko varieties apparently this year (although eating and drinking is allowed in general), but other than that the event programme has essentially been brought back as it was the last time it ran: Photo opportunities with sekitori (participants not available yet) "Old boys" exhibition matches between retired rikishi (lineup not available yet) Jinku by Kitadaichi, Yuki, Kotonofuji, Mihamaumi, Tochigidake and Kototaisei Shokkiri featuring Wakazakura & Tochimitsuru and gyoji Shikimori Tomokazu The day will start off around noon (arena opening 11:00) with action on the dohyo, comprising a three-section juryo tournament that will see 26 juryo rikishi battle down to a tomoe-sen final. Followed by the aforementioned entertainment extracurriculars, it'll finally be time for the top division tournament around 14:30 when the TV broadcast picks up. 39 makuuchi rikishi will be in action there. Fuji CS TV One will also have a complete rebroadcast from 19:00 to 21:50. The tournament draws were released yesterday. Juryo kyujo: Enho, Takakento Preliminary Round Shonannoumi - Kaisho Tsushimanada - Hakuyozan Last 24 Churanoumi - Kotokuzan Kinbozan - Chiyonokuni Hokuseiho - Shimanoumi Atamifuji - Tohakuryu Chiyosakae - Shimazuumi Oshoma - Hidenoumi Terutsuyoshi - Daiamami Shonannoumi/Kaisho - Tochimusashi Bushozan - Asanoyama Kitanowaka - Akua Roga - Daishoho Tsushimanada/Hakuyozan - Gonoyama Makuuchi intai: Okinoumi kyujo: Terunofuji, Tochinoshin Preliminary Round Kagayaki - Hiradoumi Aoiyama - Chiyoshoma Ichiyamamoto - Chiyomaru Kotoshoho - Tsurugisho Kotoeko - Endo Mitoryu - Azumaryu Takanosho - Takarafuji Last 32 (2) Wakatakakage - Nishikigi Myogiryu - Wakamotoharu Abi - Kagayaki/Hiradoumi Ichinojo - (7) Kotonowaka (6) Kiribayama - Aoiyama/Chiyoshoma Hokutofuji - Tamawashi Ura - Ichiyamamoto/Chiyomaru Sadanoumi - (3) Hoshoryu (4) Takayasu - Ryuden Kotoshoho/Tsurugisho - Onosho Mitakeumi - Nishikifuji Kotoeko/Endo - (5) Shodai (8) Meisei - Midorifuji Mitoryu/Azumaryu - Tobizaru Daieisho - Takanosho/Takarafuji Oho - (1) Takakeisho Potential Waka brothers match in the second round, as well as Takakeisho-Takanosho. The third round could see Myogiryu-Hiradoumi, Chiyoshoma-Chiyomaru, Kotoshoho-Kotoeko, Tsurugisho-Endo, Midorifuji-Takarafuji or Tobizaru-Daieisho as same-stable matchups.
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    Retirements after Hatsu 2023

    Courtesy of Nikkan Sports who beat out their usual competitor Sanspo this time, the list of 13 retirements for Hatsu basho including the mid-tournament one by Okinoumi. The other 12: Hikarifuji (Isegahama) Kotonoshu (Sadogatake) Meiko (Onoe) Akatsuki (Takadagawa) Kainowaka (Oshima) Kotomyozan (Sadogatake) Ayaminato (Minato) Nishikio (Asahiyama) Mihonoumi (Musashigawa) previously known Roman (Tatsunami) banzuke-gai Hoshinofuji (Isegahama) banzuke-gai Andozakura (Shikihide) banzuke-gai I'll leave it to someone else to do the Isegahama-beya tea leaf reading. I thought Kainowaka would never retire, considering I'd wrongly expected him to do so back nine years ago to become Kaio's heya manager or something when he founded Asakayama-beya, having been the ozeki's confidant during his active days... At 43 years of age Kainowaka leaves as the 8th-oldest active rikishi and one of just 9 remaining who were born in the 1970s. I'm curious to find out what his plans are now. Kotomyozan narrowly avoided dai-persister status a decade and a half ago, having started off his career with 9 MK and 2-3 in the tenth tournament before he rallied to kachikoshi. He turned himself into a sandanme-jonidan elevator rikishi within a few years, which is a lot more than most guys do who struggle to such starts. His stablemate Kotonoshu looked semi-promising at one time, reaching makushita for the first time at age 20, but he didn't progress from there and ultimately ended up with no kachikoshi in his five makushita appearances. Akatsuki debuted as part of the famed Hatsu 2007 maezumo class which yielded 5 sekitori out of just 7 participants, of whom he was the last man standing.
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    New Juryo for Haru

    As a full-fledged Ms15 he surely would have; 7-0's, even very low-ranked ones, have gone up instead of Ms1w 4-3's many times. The worst case was after Hatsu 1977, which AFAIK caused the cutoff to be changed from top 20 to top 15.
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    YDC Post Hatsu 2023

    There were no alternating committees, just alternating rankings, and that approach was already scrapped in 1929. The years you're talking about saw them combine the results of two tournaments (one Tokyo, one not-Tokyo) to create one new banzuke for the next two tournaments, an entirely different approach. Edit: I see there's an unsourced note on Tamanishiki's ja.wiki article that claims the two-combined-basho approach to the banzuke meant that it would have taken four consecutive tournament championships for him to be treated as "winning two back-to-back titles". I find that interpretation highly dubious as it would imply that they essentially considered each honbasho to be a half-tournament (why on Earth would they do that, especially coming off the brief alternating-banzuke period which clearly treated each basho as highly important in its own right), not to mention that back-to-back yusho wasn't even an established promotion standard at the time. Anyway, a new banzuke was drawn up after Tamanishiki's third consecutive yusho, so it's outright nonsensical to say (as the ja.wiki article does) that what he still needed to do was win the first tournament of the next two-basho cycle; they couldn't possibly have credibly promised to promote him off of that since there was still another tournament to go with him as ozeki in any case. I'll continue to go with the traditional explanation that he was a hothead from an unimportant stable who rubbed too many people the wrong way and consequently had no advocates. Ozeki and yokozuna promotions were a lot more political in those days than they are now.
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    New Juryo for Haru

    Not now it isn't, but Ochiai was the test case to see if they would promote a TD straight to jūryō after one basho (because Shimoda's precedent had confounding factors). Was it really? As far as I'm concerned it has provided only minimal new information, in both directions: We already knew that they can promote anybody off a 7-0 that they want (see Daimanazuru after 2003.11 when the divisional expansion opened up lots of space). Their self-imposed top 15 ranks rule just specifies that those are guys who must be promoted, which I've always taken to mean that they'll go to extreme lengths to ensure it happens including passing over other highly deserving candidates (e.g. Ms1e kachikoshi) or demoting juryo rikishi who otherwise wouldn't be demoted, or possibly even break the juryo capacity for one tournament. It doesn't mean that they will never promote from outside the top 15, just that they won't feel compelled to do so, and they specifically said with Shimoda that he was considered outside, being "between" Ms15 and Ms16. That argument necessarily can't apply to Nakamura or any other Ms10Td since even a position between Ms10 and Ms11 is obviously still within the top 15 ranks. On the flipside, while Ochiai's promotion might be interpreted as them overturning the Shimoda precedent, at best we can now infer that Ms15Td may occupy some sort of limbo space in their thinking where they'll make more of a good-faith effort to find space than they would for a Ms16e or below 7-0. I honestly expected nothing else because it was clear from how they responded to the public confusion around Shimoda that they themselves considered it an unfortunate situation. Furthermore, when the Ms10 and Ms15 starting positions were introduced two decades ago, they were essentially sold as "puts high caliber rookies just one tournament away from juryo" as compensation for tightening up the rules for who qualifies for makushita starts compared to the more permissive old Ms60. If they didn't intend for them to be promotable they wouldn't have chosen those positions in the first place - after all, why hamstring your future selves with unnecessary complications?
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    New Juryo for Haru

    It's hard to know how Ishiura's case fits into all that, given that the name may actually have had some pre-existing prestige within the sumo world and/or for him personally via his father's efforts in amateur sumo. But yeah, I suppose we're indeed not long until further examples of Hakuho's intended treatment of the naming issue will crop up and offer some clarification. I would be remiss though if I didn't point out that Hakuho's first uchi-deshi Daikiho did get his shikona upon his promotion to juryo. Of course it's been over a decade since.
  10. Ikazuchi was a big name at one time as far as I know, to the point that the ja.wiki article about the former stables of the name refers to an "Ikazuchi-ichimon" (this predates the official recognition of ichimon as Kyokai power groups), but we're talking 100 years ago there. If I had to venture a guess - maybe it's because ex-Kakizoe isn't actually an Irumagawa product and so he's essentially just taking over the stable's assets here, not continuing a lineage he's part of? Edit: That's from the "no knowledge is ever completely useless" department - my first run-in with Ikazuchi having major history and Ikazuchi-ichimon as a thing was a whopping 15 years ago, and it looks like I've only had one other opportunity to sort of mention it since ("powerhouse Ikazuchi-beya")...
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    New Juryo for Haru

    I suspect it's also reflective of the occasionally seen attitude that super high caliber prospects should not merely get to juryo to "earn" their proper shikona, but makuuchi.
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    Promotion /Demotion and Yūshō Discussion Hatsu 2023

    My attempt at juryo and makushita: Asanoyama (J12w 14-1 Y) J1 Tohakuryu (J4e 9-6) Chiyonokuni (J7e 10-5) J2 Ichinojo (M7e 0-0-15) Tochinoshin (M11w 2-3-10) J3 Shonannoumi (J13e 12-3) Oshoma (J3w 7-8) J4 Chiyomaru (M16w 4-11) Enho (J4w 7-8) J5 Roga (J9e 9-6) Gonoyama (J10e 9-6) J6 Daiamami (J2w 5-10) Shimazuumi (J11w 9-6) J7 Hidenoumi (J9w 8-7) Akua (J1e 3-12) J8 Tsushimanada (J14e 9-6) Hakuyozan (J14w 9-6) J9 Atamifuji (J3e 3-8-4) Kotokuzan (J5w 4-11) J10 Churanoumi (J6e 4-11) Shimanoumi (J8e 5-10) J11 Kitanowaka (J8w 5-10) Takakento (J12e 7-8) J12 Tochimusashi (J7w 4-11) Tamashoho (Ms1e 4-3) J13 Tomokaze (Ms2e 4-3) Tokushoryu (Ms2w 4-3) J14 Ochiai (Ms15Td 7-0 Y) Terutsuyoshi (J10w 5-10) Ms1 Chiyosakae (J11e 5-10) Tsukahara (Ms5e 5-2) Ms2 Fujiseiun (Ms5w 5-2) Kaisho (J13w 5-10) Ms3 Tokihayate (Ms6w 5-2) Kawazoe (Ms7e 5-2) Ms4 Mineyaiba (Ms17e 6-1) Chiyonoumi (Ms7w 4-3) Ms5 Chiyoarashi (Ms9e 4-3) Mukainakano (Ms13w 5-2) Ms6 Tochikamiyama (Ms3w 3-4) Shiden (Ms4e 3-4) Ms7 Ishizaki (Ms1w 2-5) Hayatefuji (Ms23e 6-1) Ms8 Yago (Ms11e 4-3) Tochimaru (Ms11w 4-3) Ms9 Yuma (Ms12w 4-3) Akiseyama (Ms13e 4-3) Ms10 Dewanoryu (Ms6e 3-4) Shishi (Ms20e 5-2) Ms11 Kamito (Ms4w 2-5) Tochiseiryu (Ms8e 3-4) Ms12 Tanabe (Ms8w 3-4) Hatsuyama (Ms33e 6-1) Ms13 Kiryuko (Ms17w 4-3) Hitoshi (Ms18e 4-3) Ms14 Miyagi (Ms24e 5-2) Daiseiryu (Ms10w 3-4) Ms15 Kanzaki (Ms25e 5-2) I would say there's a non-zero chance that Asanoyama does bump Hokuseiho off the promotion queue. (Can't see them combine to force down Mitoryu instead, though.) Not sure yet which way I'll go for GTB, but the baseline assumption of course has to be that Hokuseiho goes up. My main disagreement with Gurowake in makushita seems to be where to place 2-5 Ishizaki. Total crapshoot as always. Similarly, I wonder if we're both too harsh on 1-6 Chiyonoo by dropping him below Ms15, but they're so erratic with those demotions that there's no hope anyway.
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    Promotion /Demotion and Yūshō Discussion Hatsu 2023

    Could go either way, I guess. The open K1e could give them license either to jump Waka in front of Koto (the latter still getting a non-demotion at K1w that way), or to move both up slightly without changing the order.
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    Promotion /Demotion and Yūshō Discussion Hatsu 2023

    Yes. I'm also not convinced they'll stay with 8 S/K, though of course I was spectacularly wrong about this last time. As for Ozeki Wakamotoharu, that seems extremely premature for someone who's been in the top division for a year and moved up steadily but not dominantly, and you'd have to count a 10-5 at M4. If he puts up double-digits next time, sure, bump him up to S for May and see what he can do. I'm with Reonito here. "4+4 or 3+5" is a red herring when a conceivable - and IMHO the most likely - answer is actually "3+4". Anyway, quite possibly the decision to do 8 lower sanyaku last time was at least partly motivated by the even worse mess in the maegashira ranks with fewer than that. It's not great if they go back down to 7 this time, but it's still reasonably workable. I'm also rooting (of sorts) for Wakamotoharu to stay at komusubi to see them have to answer this long-standing question for him and Kotonowaka:
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    Promotion /Demotion and Yūshō Discussion Hatsu 2023

    Your issue is that you seem to believe one win ordinarily compensates for only one rank, or even less than that. Or maybe there's really no ranks-to-wins logic at work for you at all, considering you've argued for either Asanoyama > Kinbozan > Daishoho or Kinbozan > Asanoyama > Daishoho here.
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    GTB invite- Hatsu 2023- 141 entries, the line is dead.

    Apparently I made a second attempt with Oracle-style scoring adjustments (i.e. makuuchi split into Y-M5 and M6-bottom) much later in 2016, which I didn't recall doing at all until just now. Didn't get much further there, the last results sheet is for Kyushu 2001, but I think my failure to even remember it means this one died more for loss of interest than lack of feasibility. For comparison, here's the same Natsu 2001 makuuchi results in that attempt. I'll spoiler tag it this time in the interest of not making the thread balloon in viewing size even further.
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    GTB invite- Hatsu 2023- 141 entries, the line is dead.

    Found my old stuff - it was significantly more than a decade ago, the file dates from 2009. This is the point at which I gave up, the Natsu 2001 results: You can probably tell from the sanyaku ranks how I tried to get around the ever-growing need for scoring adjustments. That basho just killed everything. (The #NV's should be kosho except Terosan who would have been 0-0-15, I didn't even finish up prepping the sheet. Incidentally, the banzuke before that one had 7 komusubi, if you need further indication of how messed up it was by that point.)
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    GTB invite- Hatsu 2023- 141 entries, the line is dead.

    A decade or so ago I actually started to try my hand at a GTB banzuke for giggles, from the point at which the game results started to include W-L scores, i.e. the fifth edition. The problem was that the rankings became very top-heavy after relatively few editions, with basically the entire upper half or more of makuuchi finishing with KK's (and usually the big ones). So it became completely unworkable with normal banzuke-making approaches, and I lacked the time, the inclination and the experience to try to figure out how to proceed, so the idea got shelved. No offense intended, but I wouldn't find a Rotosumo-style banzuke all that interesting for GTB when there's already a points-based ranking method. A "properly" created banzuke, and I think that's what Kinta has in mind, is the only thing that could justify the effort of creating a second/new ranking system.
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    Promotion /Demotion and Yūshō Discussion Hatsu 2023

    The Tochinoshin of the time also wasn't much more of a rikishi than Abi is now. With Asanoyama we're talking about somebody that competed at credible ozeki level and the reason he's down in juryo has nothing to do with injury and potentially diminished capabilities.
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    Promotion /Demotion and Yūshō Discussion Hatsu 2023

    I dunno if they'll want to hand him a second juryo yusho opportunity if there's a reasonable avenue available to put him in makuuchi.
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    Promotion /Demotion and Yūshō Discussion Hatsu 2023

    Meh. If Takakeisho comes back to win a 12-3 yusho here and (probably) doesn't get promoted, it won't be because of whom he lost to this time, it'll be because he lost the playoff to Abi last time. That's the kind of match that matters for an ozeki's tsuna bonafides (beyond the trivial fact that he missed out on the yusho because of it), not some random Day 2 loss to somebody like Tobizaru. Edit: It's nearly impossible for a Y/O to win a yusho with a score of 12-3 and look strong doing it. But in the end it's still a yusho. That means the core issue is that the other basho in the "run" here also wasn't particularly strong, and ended on a highly disappointing (and one might even say, embarrassing) note. 12-3 Y + 12-3 Y, while historically weak, could be handwaved as "not dominant, but knows how to get it done", 12-3 D + 13-2 Y or better could have been spun as "came back stronger from last basho's disappointment, that's a yokozuna quality". 12-3 D with a playoff loss to a lower-ranker + 12-3 Y just looks like two sides of the same, relatively dull coin.
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    Trivia bits

    Yeah, no, the fill-in rikishi for juryo are pretty clearly chosen separately each day, not in advance. Has nothing to do with the makushita and under scheduling, and the Fanclub site schedule preview obviously didn't include Chiyonoo's Day 10 juryo appearance either, the posted schedule stopped with the last makushita matchup as one would expect. No idea why Akinomaki is claiming differently. The whole idea breaks down on the fact that it's not actually possible to know for certain whether or not a fill-in will be needed on the "second" day since it changes depending on possible sekitori withdrawals on the "first" day. Anyway, I guess they just saw no reason to not keep going down the ranks this time, regardless of Chiyonoo's MK.
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    Trivia bits

    On Day 10, Chiyonoo became the first makekoshi makushita rikishi in over 16 years to appear in juryo for his fifth or sixth match. Day 9 at 0-4, last in 1988.01 Day 10 at 0-5 or 1-4, last in 2006.11 (before Chiyonoo) Day 11 at 0-5 or 1-4, last in 2000.03 --------------------------------------------------------------- Day 12 at 0-6, 1-5 or 2-4, last in 2017.01 Day 13 at 0-6, 1-5 or 2-4, last in 2012.01 Day 14 at 0-6, 1-5 or 2-4, last in 2018.01 (not counting an 8th match appearance in 2018.11) Day 15 at 0-6, 1-5 or 2-4, last in 2016.07 (also followed by several 8th matches since)
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    Banzuke for Hatsu 2023

    https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/ Makuuchi Terunofuji Y --- --- O Takakeisho Wakatakakage S Hoshoryu Takayasu S Shodai Kiribayama K Kotonowaka Meisei K Wakamotoharu Tobizaru M1 Daieisho Mitakeumi M2 Tamawashi Abi M3 Midorifuji Nishikifuji M4 Sadanoumi Ryuden M5 Nishikigi Hokutofuji M6 Myogiryu Ichinojo M7 Ura Onosho M8 Oho Takanosho M9 Endo Aoiyama M10 Hiradoumi Chiyoshoma M11 Tochinoshin Kagayaki M12 Okinoumi Kotoshoho M13 Kotoeko Ichiyamamoto M14 Azumaryu Tsurugisho M15 Mitoryu Takarafuji M16 Chiyomaru Customary comment that I still find this style of placing the sekiwake nonsensical.
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    Long Kachikoshi Streaks - Hatsu 2023

    3-3 record + involuntary removal from the tournament, it didn't count as makekoshi for the banzuke so I'm not counting it either.