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  1. The remainder:

    Makushita

     

    Oshoryu        Ms16  Daiseido
    Kainoryu       Ms17  Okinofuji
    Hokutoki       Ms18  Hokaho
    Omoto          Ms19  Tsurubayashi
    Kamito         Ms20  Amakaze
    Toyohibiki     Ms21  Tochinobori
    Genki          Ms22  Tsushimanada
    Yuma           Ms23  Tokisakae
    Shohoryu       Ms24  Higonojo
    Fukai          Ms25  Tochikodai
    Asabenkei      Ms26  Yamatoarashi
    Chiyosakae     Ms27  Asagyokusei
    Kairyu         Ms28  Wakatakamoto
    Dewataikai     Ms29  Amanoshima
    Hamayutaka     Ms30  Narutaki
    Akinoyama      Ms31  Asahisho
    Mudoho         Ms32  Asakoki
    Tochikamiyama  Ms33  Yoshii
    Tamakongo      Ms34  Chiyodaigo
    Shosei         Ms35  Ito
    Nionoumi       Ms36  Aozora
    Wakanoumi      Ms37  Kotoozutsu
    Kaiyudai       Ms38  Mugendai
    Yutakasho      Ms39  Kawamoto
    Yuki           Ms40  Shiba
    Kotoseigo      Ms41  Ryusei
    Daishoryu      Ms42  Hokutotsubasa
    Kototsubasa    Ms43  Oginosho
    Kotoyusho      Ms44  Tsushida
    Yoshoyama      Ms45  Keitenkai
    Sadanoryu      Ms46  Tokunomusashi
    Wayama         Ms47  Tennozan
    Horyuyama      Ms48  Otsuji
    Fukamiyama     Ms49  Okinohama
    Ayanoumi       Ms50  Itadaki
    Kotodairyu     Ms51  Mitozakura
    Kotohayato     Ms52  Tanakayama
    Asonoyama      Ms53  Obayama
    Hikarugenji    Ms54  Chiyonokatsu
    Tsuyukusa      Ms55  Yokoe
    Shoji          Ms56  Chiyoraizan
    Takaryu        Ms57  Hananofuji
    Kitadaichi     Ms58  Tosamidori
    Kirinofuji     Ms59  Tanabe
    Kaiho          Ms60  Kainoshima


    Sandanme

     

    Tatsukaze     Sd1   Hokutokawa
    Saionji       Sd2   Sasakiyama
    Nankairiki    Sd3   Sadanogo
    Kainishiki    Sd4   Higoarashi
    Asakishin     Sd5   Masutoo
    Daitenma      Sd6   Marusho
    Irodori       Sd7   Joyuriki
    Onojo         Sd8   Nishinoryu
    Genkaiho      Sd9   Rao
    Dewanoryu     Sd10  Saidaiji
    Shuji         Sd11  Azumasato
    Kaizen        Sd12  Katsunofuji
    Haruminato    Sd13  Nihonyanagi
    Oazuma        Sd14  Sazanami
    Daikisho      Sd15  Tomisakae
    Asatenmai     Sd16  Mifuneyama
    Fujisato      Sd17  Masunoyama
    Izumigawa     Sd18  Oyamatoumi
    Kaishin       Sd19  Sagatsukasa
    Kamitani      Sd20  Nakashima
    Hokuseiho     Sd21  Roman
    Hayatefuji    Sd22  Mochizuki
    Hitachigo     Sd23  Kagamio
    Dainichido    Sd24  Anzai
    Toukiryu      Sd25  Ebisumaru
    Daiyusho      Sd26  Hokutoshu
    Kotokume      Sd27  Kotorikisen
    Akashifuji    Sd28  Matsuda
    Genbumaru     Sd29  Sakaekaze
    Sakurai       Sd30  Denuma
    Kihonoumi     Sd31  Asadaimon
    Tsugaruumi    Sd32  Karatsuumi
    Oka           Sd33  Maikeru
    Daishoki      Sd34  Taichiyama
    Miryuzan      Sd35  Tomokaze
    Seigo         Sd36  Sadanohikari
    Kotakiyama    Sd37  Kasugaryu
    Inoue         Sd38  Kototora
    Hodaka        Sd39  Onokura
    Kaiseijo      Sd40  Oginohama
    Wakanofuji    Sd41  Azumasho
    Toshoyama     Sd42  Watanabe
    Wakahiroto    Sd43  Mitotsukasa
    Amatsu        Sd44  Nabatame
    Tokimaru      Sd45  Kijuin
    Kotoryusei    Sd46  Akatsuki
    Kiritsubasa   Sd47  Kawabuchi
    Tochimitsuru  Sd48  Ginseizan
    Chura         Sd49  Omote
    Wakakinsho    Sd50  Hokuyozan
    Fujikawa      Sd51  Yamato
    Daishosei     Sd52  Munakata
    Kenyu         Sd53  Yanagida
    Chiyotora     Sd54  Kotosato
    Hokutoo       Sd55  Kotonoshu
    Kotoito       Sd56  Masuminato
    Shoketsu      Sd57  Kenshin
    Hokutoryu     Sd58  Komanokuni
    Dewanojo      Sd59  Kojima
    Kiyonoumi     Sd60  Dairaido
    Hibikiryu     Sd61  Shinohara
    Kaishinmaru   Sd62  Mutsukaze
    Hakuonada     Sd63  Tsunekawa
    Kanryu        Sd64  Hikarifuji
    Sadanokuni    Sd65  Toyoshimizu
    Araoyama      Sd66  Furanshisu
    Mihamaumi     Sd67  Takabayama
    Teraoumi      Sd68  Tosaeizan
    Tanahashi     Sd69  Hokutoiwami
    Nakaishi      Sd70  Musashiumi
    Gorikiyama    Sd71  Mienosato
    Nakao         Sd72  Taiyo
    Sakurafuji    Sd73  Hienriki
    Inaba         Sd74  Koshinoryu
    Takataisho    Sd75  Kochikara
    Daishomune    Sd76  Asakoga
    Hidano        Sd77  Sumanoumi
    Mukaida       Sd78  Kiyota
    Daihisho      Sd79  Baraki
    Miyabishin    Sd80  Hagane
    Taranami      Sd81  Shishi
    Kotokantetsu  Sd82  Chiyooga
    Daijo         Sd83  Sakai
    Kyokuhozan    Sd84  Hozan
    Fujinowaka    Sd85  Kotonoumi
    Fukushima     Sd86  Kaorufuji
    Kayatoiwa     Sd87  Tenei
    Toma          Sd88  Ryubu
    Yatabe        Sd89  Kotosusumu
    Kotomyozan    Sd90  Maenofuji
    Chiyotenfu    Sd91  Tagomaru
    Ryuki         Sd92  Amane
    Oba           Sd93  Takeoka
    Fujinokaze    Sd94  Takamiryu
    Kisenoumi     Sd95  Kawamura
    Kotozensho    Sd96  Kakutaiki
    Hatooka       Sd97  Wakahizen
    Imafuku       Sd98  Yukiamami
    Hokutoyoshi   Sd99  Hitenryu
    Dewanosora    Sd100 Aoi


    Jonidan

     

    Sekizuka       Jd1   Mishima
    Ienoshima      Jd2   Asanotosa
    Yoshiazuma     Jd3   Hamadayama
    Sadatsuyoshi   Jd4   Chiyotaiho
    Chiyohokkai    Jd5   Ariake
    Daishokaku     Jd6   Ofukasawa
    Kotomaeda      Jd7   Asaazuma
    Sasaki         Jd8   Hagiwara
    Miyanofuji     Jd9   Kirameki
    Tochihayate    Jd10  Hisanotora
    Ryutsukasa     Jd11  Toho
    Tanji          Jd12  Tomiyutaka
    Shinyashiki    Jd13  Kurokage
    Sawayaka       Jd14  Kinotsukasa
    Ouzakura       Jd15  Shori
    Kaiyuma        Jd16  Kotonagahama
    Tatsuki        Jd17  Denzan
    Awanokuni      Jd18  Shogun
    Yamenosato     Jd19  Tochinoshima
    Ryuseio        Jd20  Garyu
    Kotootomo      Jd21  Mimurodake
    Wakayamanaka   Jd22  Miyakojima
    Daisho         Jd23  Senho
    Ayaminato      Jd24  Oisato
    Sakabayashi    Jd25  Sorakaze
    Kaonishiki     Jd26  Hamasu
    Ogitora        Jd27  Okunidake
    Kotomanabe     Jd28  Asahijo
    Hamanoumi      Jd29  Fudano
    Asahabataki    Jd30  Tsubakifuji
    Ishiazuma      Jd31  Tatsunoumi
    Fujinotani     Jd32  Daishowaka
    Nishikiryu     Jd33  Asahinishiki
    Wakaseido      Jd34  Hokutouryu
    Wakamatsunaga  Jd35  Ayakaze
    Yoshimura      Jd36  Amamidake
    Nishimura      Jd37  Fubu
    Asahanshin     Jd38  Kiryu
    Mori           Jd39  Katozakura
    Yuriki         Jd40  Onagaya
    Fukuazuma      Jd41  Seito
    Kotetsu        Jd42  Tokio
    Kotokonno      Jd43  Asashinjo
    Iko            Jd44  Hakuyo
    Oshozan        Jd45  Satonofuji
    Gagamaru       Jd46  Nakata
    Setonoumi      Jd47  Kainowaka
    Nishida        Jd48  Miyakogawa
    Tochikasuga    Jd49  Fukui
    Wakaikki       Jd50  Iitsuka
    Sekizukayama   Jd51  Banshunada
    Hashimoto      Jd52  Soga
    Zuiko          Jd53  Asadoji
    Hokutonami     Jd54  Tsugunohana
    Akiyoshi       Jd55  Osuzuki
    Shimizu        Jd56  Ai
    Motokiyama     Jd57  Onoyama
    Chiyokozan     Jd58  Azumaiwa
    Chiyooume      Jd59  Takakurayama
    Suzaki         Jd60  Shimoyama
    Akiyama        Jd61  Kirizakura
    Asanojo        Jd62  Yashiroumi
    Aki            Jd63  Wakatozakura
    Nakai          Jd64  Makio
    Asahio         Jd65  Chiyotaisei
    Miyata         Jd66  Kotoegashira
    Harimanada     Jd67  Goketsuyama
    Sasazaki       Jd68  Hirose
    Ishizaka       Jd69  Wakaryusei
    Kotoomura      Jd70  Aishoryu
    Terunosato     Jd71  Daishohama
    Taniguchi      Jd72  Tenichi
    Umizaru        Jd73  Matsugashima
    Satsumao       Jd74  Hatachijo
    Oatari         Jd75  Ishii
    Bushi          Jd76  Biganzan
    Okuniyama      Jd77  Kotoimagawa
    Tochisato      Jd78  Akitoba
    Shimanishiki   Jd79  Kaibusho
    Matsuoka       Jd80  Wakayutaka
    Hakuomaru      Jd81  Kotokogyoku
    Ieshima        Jd82  Iwata
    Mogaminishiki  Jd83  Watatani
    Asanoshima     Jd84  Takemaru
    Asahimaru      Jd85  Sawada
    Takano         Jd86  Yutakanami
    Shiryu         Jd87  Taketsukasa
    Chikureisen    Jd88  Tsukubayama
    Kotokino       Jd89  Azumayama
    Chiyotaiyo     Jd90  Higuchi
    Kyokutenryo    Jd91  Asaobora
    Goshinryu      Jd92  Miyabi
    Kokuryunami    Jd93  Wakaonehara
    Kazunofuji     Jd94  Aonoumi
    Koki           Jd95  Tabara
    Fukuminato     Jd96  Zendaisho
    Uminishiki     Jd97  Ishihara
    Shunpo         Jd98  Kenho
    Yasunishi      Jd99  Chiyoresshi
    Fujinoteru     Jd100 Isamufuji
    Hanakaze       Jd101 Yamane
    Akinishiki     Jd102 Andozakura
    Toshonishiki   Jd103 Iwamoto
    Urutora        Jd104 Maniwayama
    Shoryudo       Jd105 Satozakura
    Matsumoto      Jd106 Tamanohoshi
    Machi          Jd107 Suonada
    Azumahikari    Jd108 Shokeima
    Kirinoryu      Jd109 Takeazuma
    Fujimusashi    Jd110 Azumanami


    Jonokuchi

     

    Shinzan          Jk1   Adachi
    Chiyotsurugi     Jk2   Wakakaneko
    Wakatanaka       Jk3   Sakura
    Kaihiryu         Jk4   Daishojo
    Hokutosato       Jk5   Okanojo
    Sawanofuji       Jk6   Arikawa
    Ota              Jk7   Higonoryu
    Tsukioka         Jk8   Numano
    Boshuyama        Jk9   Etsunohana
    Shishimaru       Jk10  Nangu
    Hamasaki         Jk11  Hokutohomare
    Takatsukasa      Jk12  Nishikimaru
    Kirimaru         Jk13  Kyonosato
    Nishikio         Jk14  Hishuyama
    Yaotsufuji       Jk15  Takasu
    Wakafujioka      Jk16  Moriurara
    Haruku           Jk17  Sadanojo
    Daishiryu        Jk18  Sawaisamu
    Itakozakura      Jk19  Nagahara
    Hokutoizumi      Jk20  Teraosho
    Hanashi          Jk21  Mabuchi
    Kirinohana       Jk22  Chiyotensho
    Matsugi          Jk23  Kaitoma
    Shiraishizakura  Jk24  Kototaiko
    Higohikari       Jk25  Wakayahara
    Ryuseiyama       Jk26  Chiyoyamato
    Daishoko         Jk27  Chiyotaiko
    Chiyosenshi      Jk28  Tsuyasato
    Nogami           Jk29  Asashorei
    Hattorizakura    Jk30  Reon


    (New shikona in red.)

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  2. Makushita-joi

    Daishoho       Ms1   Naya
    Yago           Ms2   Shiraishi
    Kitaharima     Ms3   Kotodaigo
    Bushozan       Ms4   Terasawa
    Chiyoarashi    Ms5   Kotokuzan
    Takakento      Ms6   Ichiki
    Kaisho         Ms7   Sakigake
    Tochimaru      Ms8   Ichiyamamoto
    Nakazono       Ms9   Kitanowaka
    Tochiseiryu    Ms10  Tamashoho
    Wakayama       Ms11  Suzuki
    Murata         Ms12  Roga
    Oki            Ms13  Hiradoumi
    Shonannoumi    Ms14  Tsukahara
    Hokutenkai     Ms15  Ryuko
     

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  3. Juryo

    Akiseyama    J1   Chiyonoo
    Midorifuji   J2   Shohozan
    Ishiura      J3   Kotoshogiku
    Chiyomaru    J4   Nishikigi
    Daiamami     J5   Hidenoumi
    Churanoumi   J6   Wakamotoharu
    Chiyootori   J7   Azumaryu
    Kyokutaisei  J8   Ikioi
    Tsurugisho   J9   Daishomaru
    Hakuyozan    J10  Kyokushuho
    Mitoryu      J11  Abi
    Takagenji    J12  Jokoryu
    Ura          J13  Nishikifuji
    Fujiazuma    J14  Chiyonoumi
     

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  4. http://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/

    Makuuchi

    Hakuho       Y    Kakuryu
    Takakeisho   O    Asanoyama
    Shodai       O    ---
    Mitakeumi    S    Takanosho
    Terunofuji   K    Takayasu

    Kiribayama   M1   Wakatakakage
    Onosho       M2   Daieisho
    Kagayaki     M3   Okinoumi
    Hokutofuji   M4   Tobizaru
    Myogiryu     M5   Kotoshoho
    Takarafuji   M6   Tamawashi
    Tochinoshin  M7   Endo
    Aoiyama      M8   Terutsuyoshi
    Tokushoryu   M9   Kotoeko
    Ryuden       M10  Meisei
    Sadanoumi    M11  Enho
    Yutakayama   M12  Kaisei
    Hoshoryu     M13  Ichinojo
    Chiyonokuni  M14  Kotonowaka
    Chiyotairyu  M15  Kotoyuki
    Chiyoshoma   M16  Akua
    Shimanoumi   M17  ---

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  5. My hopeless attempt:

    Hakuho (Ye 0-0-15)        Y    Kakuryu (Yw 0-0-15)
    Takakeisho (Ow 12-3)      O1   Asanoyama (Oe 10-5)
    Shodai (S1e 13-2 Y)       O2   ---
    Mitakeumi (S1w 8-7)       S    Takanosho (M1w 10-5)
    Terunofuji (M1e 8-5-2)    K    Takayasu (M6e 10-5)

    Kiribayama (M5e 9-4-2)    M1   Wakatakakage (M8w 11-4)
    Daieisho (S2e 5-10)       M2   Onosho (M9w 10-5)
    Kagayaki (M6w 8-7)        M3   Hokutofuji (M2e 6-9)
    Okinoumi (Ke 4-11)        M4   Myogiryu (M3e 6-9)
    Tobizaru (M14e 11-4)      M5   Kotoshoho (M12e 10-5)
    Takarafuji (M5w 7-8)      M6   Tamawashi (M2w 5-10)
    Endo (Kw 3-9-3)           M7   Tochinoshin (M4w 6-9)
    Terutsuyoshi (M3w 5-10)   M8   Aoiyama (M7w 7-8)
    Tokushoryu (M8e 7-8)      M9   Kotoeko (M10w 8-7)
    Meisei (M13e 9-6)         M10  Ryuden (M7e 6-9)
    Sadanoumi (M10e 7-8)      M11  Enho (M9e 6-9)
    Yutakayama (M4e 2-6-7)    M12  Kaisei (M12w 7-8)
    Hoshoryu (M16w 8-7)       M13  Ichinojo (M17e 8-7)
    Chiyotairyu (M11e 5-8-2)  M14  Kotonowaka (J2w 9-6)
    Chiyonokuni (J11w 14-1 Y) M15  Chiyoshoma (J4e 9-6)
    Kotoyuki (J2e 8-7)        M16  Shimanoumi (M15e 6-9)
    Akua (J6w 10-5)           M17  ---

    I'm feeling strangely confident on everything except M5e to M8e, but that whole section could well be zero points...my first draft still looked totally different (Tobizaru and Kotoshoho last instead of first) and was arguably equally justifiable.


  6. 10 hours ago, Katsunorifuji said:

    I wasn’t aiming so much for an apples to apples comparison but chose the NFL because it was another sport where someone who is heavy and strong can make a name for themselves as an offensive lineman. With the big pay differential it surprises me a bit that we don’t see more people start in sumo and then try their hand at American football if their sumo careers don’t look to take off.

    And compete for NFL spots with thousands of hopefuls who've been living and breathing football since childhood and usually gone through high-quality collegiate programs already? You can ask ex-Wakanoho how that worked out for him...

     

    10 hours ago, Katsunorifuji said:

    But my main question was more about how much extra someone like Hakuho, or anyone in the salaried ranks, can pull in with all the added awards and prize money. I know sumo loves it’s awards so that base salary is a lot like the CEO who $1million as a salary but then $20 million in stock bonuses. My curiosity was around how much the sumo “bonuses” increase their earning potential. 

    Unless a rikishi is regularly winning the makuuchi yusho, the various opportunities to get non-salary money from the Kyokai really don't amount to all that much. Kensho are probably the biggest deal, but for those they're largely dependent on how they're regarded by third parties, so not much different from direct tanimachi support and the like. (Unless a rikishi has a knack for beating opponents who are themselves kensho magnets, of course.)


  7. I'll say one thing, if you transplant Tosanoumi's 1995-1999 results into 2016-2020, I could just barely see ozeki talk as justified, because the current era is in such chaos. Tamawashi comes to mind as a similar case from the actual current period, albeit at an even old age, and of course Shodai himself was even less accomplished just a year ago. But in 1999, with 6 mostly well-performing Y/O already on the banzuke, the vastly superior Kaio and Musoyama having not (yet) managed to become ozeki, and two years younger Dejima in the process of putting up more consistent joi results than Tosanoumi ever did (and in fact becoming ozeki two months after the quoted column)...

    I'll freely admit that I was still only a casual fan at the time and not in tune with what was being discussed by fans back then, but I'd find it very hard to believe that the not especially young, defensively challenged, and at best 10th-best rikishi (maybe as low as 12th, depending on how one might have felt about aging Akinoshima and yet to be tested Miyabiyama) generated significant ozeki talk among informed fans. Maybe much earlier than 1999, after Tosanoumi had only just shown up in makuuchi, but that's even less worthwhile because even guys like the aforementioned Chiyotenzan would get that kind of talk, basically anyone who goes to the top division and holds his own there immediately (the aforementioned "ozeki prospect until proven otherwise" approach).


  8. 3 hours ago, Kashunowaka said:

    Not everyone debuts in makuuchi as M7 and have to face an ozeki and a yokozuna day 1-2... :-) Once upon a time there was a bi-monthly column called Rikishi Report. Excerpt from Natsu basho 1999:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20020808031642/http://www.sumoweb.com/rikishi_report/rr22.htm

    I mean, the very fact that a 27-year-old Tosanoumi's wins over big names were still described as "posting upsets" (and a win over Chiyotenzan being singled out as noteworthy!)...that reads more like the opinion of somebody with an "everyone's an ozeki prospect until proven otherwise" mindset. So granted, somebody was talking about Tosanoumi as a potential ozeki, but...


  9. 15 minutes ago, Kashunowaka said:

    And Tosanoumi, Tochinonada, Akinoshima... the guys who could beat anyone or lose to anyone on any given day. What would sumo be without them? :-)

    Akinoshima definitely, Tochinonada maybe, but I don't believe Tosanoumi was ever talked about as a "destined for higher things" rikishi. Just a tenacious but technically too limited guy that went about as high as his tools allowed him to - the niche that I suspect Yutakayama is also in (or would be, if he could stay healthy).

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  10. 59 minutes ago, Yamanashi said:

    I know, it's me, but this is really a serious question:  have any retired rikishi endorsed weight-loss programs?  None come to my mind, but I'm a newbie to Ozumo.  It seems to me that it's a no-brainer.

    As Akinomaki already said, "endorse" might not quite cover it, but there was this:


  11. On 01/10/2020 at 11:49, RabidJohn said:

    That has been a fairly common theme among recent ozeki promotions: a period of middling performances in makuuchi, followed by an unexpected, sustained improvement. Takayasu couldn't string KKs together, Tochinoshin had no chance with them knees, Takakeisho was too short (and his period of wildly varying performance has continued), and Asanoyama had 2 years of 50/50 MK/KK.

    I don't think that's all that unusual historically, anyway. If you leave out the megastars who come on the scene and just never stop moving up until they're yokozuna, a lot of rikishi at all levels (even down below juryo) show those start-stop patterns where a series of plateaued performances gets interrupted by relatively short bursts of improvement that take them from one plateau to the next higher one. Though admittedly, it may have become less pronounced in recent times because so many careers get interrupted by major injuries nowadays.

    Sometimes it's due to the rikishi figuring out some technical quirk that previously held them back (Shodai's tachiai issues may fall into that category), but in a lot of cases it just seems like such a step up requires attaining a certain level of overall physical and mental readiness, and that's something the non-Hakuhos of the sumo world simply need a few years to work on every time.

    Anyway, it's the Wakanosatos and (hopefully not) Mitakeumis who are the historical outliers, guys who show a lot of promise at a young enough age that everyone expects them to have enough time left to take more steps up in their career, but they just don't end up taking them.

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  12. On 30/09/2020 at 19:50, Iwayama said:

    This really puts things in perspective for newer fans who didn't experience the mediocre Shodai of the last few years. Being a Shodai fan through that time was full of ups and downs and lots of frustration, but I am so happy that he has finally gotten it all together and risen to his full potential. So well deserved. Congratulations Ozeki! 

    It's interesting how, going back to their amateur days, his career has gone almost exactly the opposite direction of Mitakeumi's.

    Shodai was the big-shot high school star who did the rare thing and immediately competed for (and won) tournament championships on the collegiate circuit in his first two years there as well, before fading away from the title scene for years three and four, and his professional career also quickly looked like he wasn't going to recapture his teenage magic and would just become a talented but generic rank and file maegashira veteran (Kintamayama's prediction notwithstanding).

    Mitakeumi, conversely, while he was also decently accomplished in middle and high school, was far from "future star" territory in those days, and took a while to get going at the collegiate level. He really only came to the forefront in his last two years there, but then proceeded to take the professional ranks by storm, too, becoming a sanyaku mainstay in barely two years, and looking like a definite future ozeki (certainly once he'd won his first yusho).

    And now it's suddenly Shodai on top again with them both at "prime" rikishi age in their late 20s, and Mitakeumi continues to seek his groove.

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  13. 17 hours ago, Gurowake said:

    It really depresses me that Akua is likely to be promoted.  His career path just didn't look like he was destined to make it out of Juryo, especially with his first 2 awful performances.  I didn't expect him back in Juryo at all after those two, and now he'll be in Makuuchi?  Ugh.

    B-) As somebody who's been following him since back when he was still Toyononami, I wholeheartedly disagree. But I'm all in favour of guys overachieving with a cup of coffee appearance anyway, whether it's makuuchi or juryo.

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  14. 2 minutes ago, Yubinhaad said:

    As far as I know the senior messenger is always a member of the board, in this case Kagamiyama is the one from Tokitsukaze ichimon. The only one with a higher rank among the ichimon oyakata is Michinoku (ex-Kirishima), but he's not on the board so I think it might be considered strange if an ex-Ozeki was the junior messenger here.

    If I'm not mistaken the second messenger is always one of the ichimon's members of the judging department. The riji doesn't always appear to be an ichimon representative, from what I can tell, e.g. it was Dewanoumi for both Takakeisho and Asanoyama. I suppose it couldn't have been rijicho Hakkaku for Asanoyama anyway, but Nishonoseki-ichimon surely would have had options available among their directors.

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  15. On 28/09/2020 at 00:15, Sakura said:

    Mitakeumi looked lacklustre again and finishes with a mere kachi-koshi. As @Reonito says, an Ozeki promotion is possible if he pulls out 33 wins, but that means 14-1 to get to that number in November, probably quite difficult for a man who has just three double-digit winning records in 20 basho as a Sanyaku.

    13-2 + yusho ought to do it as well, I reckon, which would leave him with the same as Shodai's record, just with the first two results inverted. Mitakeumi's longer track record would probably make up for Shodai's superior recent history beyond the three-basho run.

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  16. On 28/09/2020 at 18:56, Reonito said:

    I really wish this would be fixed; it would be a much more useful feature if it actually gave the highest career rank.

    Well, I would prefer both to be available; I've done quite a few queries that utilized the current version. This effort required locating former sekitori in the lower ranks; that's just impossible to do with the career highs. And at least those can also be extracted relatively easily from the DB in other ways, which is not the case for highest rank to date.

    Speaking of lower ranks, Chiyonokuni is now the sole all-time leader with 7 yusho won in juryo and below: Link

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  17. 6 hours ago, Yamanashi said:

    Also, I 'd like to know, just for the information, when does "the day" reset? Is it on Japan time?  On some days I get a stop put on at about 9 AM EDT.

    I think it's a rolling window, i.e. X reactions within the last 24 hours at any point in time.

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  18. Scores for banzuke purposes:

    Jejima 11 (10+top)
    Profomisakari 11 (10+top)
    Achiyama 9
    Asashosakari 9
    Tsuchinoninjin 9
    Mmikasazuma 8
    Ryoshishokunin 8
    Athenayama 7
    chishafuwaku 7
    Holleshoryu 7
    Sakura 7
    WAKATAKE 7
    Hakuryuho 6

    Total: 106 / 13 = 8.15 ---> no adjustment

    Minus 1 win was narrowly indicated by the average score, but as usual when it's close I also looked at the potential KK/MK splits, and the non-adjustment led to a better split of 7/6 than the reduced score would have with 5/8.


    The new banzuke for Kyushu 2020:

    Asashosakari (Ye 9-6)       Y   ---
    Mmikasazuma (O2w 8-7)       O1  chishafuwaku (O1e 7-8)
    ---                         O2  Athenayama (O1w 7-8)
    Jejima (M3e 11-4 Y)         S   Tsuchinoninjin (M1e 9-6)
    Profomisakari (M6e 11-4 D)  K   Achiyama (M4e 9-6)
    Holleshoryu (Se 7-8)        M1  Pandaazuma (Kw kosho)
    wolfgangho (M2e kosho)      M2  WAKATAKE (M1w 7-8)
    Ryoshishokunin (M6w 8-7)    M3  Sakura (M3w 7-8)
    Hakuryuho (M5w 6-9)         M4  Tenshinhan (Sw 0-0-15)
    Rocks (Ke 0-0-15)           M5  ryafuji (M2w 0-0-15)
    Katsunorifuji (M4w 0-0-15)  M6  Pitinosato (M5e 0-0-15)

    Mmikasazuma narrowly escaped from kadoban status, while chishafuwaku (ending his tsunatori) and Athenayama find themselves in that predicament for Kyushu. 

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  19. Sorry about the delay!

    Day 14

    Kachikoshi at the finish line for youngster Yoshii, and therefore the LKS yusho goes to Jejima! It's his 9th career yusho, but the others were all quite a way back, most recently in Natsu 2014. Profomisakari takes the yusho-doten with the same points score, unfortunately losing a bracket playoff for the fourth time in four attempts. Day 13 co-contender Asashosakari has had to settle for a share of third place.

    The final standings:
     

    Day 15:
    13/13 Decisions, TB 17
    Pos Player Pts TB
    1 Jejima 10 16
    2 Profomisakari 10 12
    3 Achiyama 9 16
    3 Asashosakari 9 11
    3 Tsuchinoninjin 9 12
    6 Mmikasazuma 8 13
    6 Ryoshishokunin 8 13
    8 Athenayama 7 12
    8 chishafuwaku 7 12
    8 Holleshoryu 7 12
    8 Sakura 7 12
    8 WAKATAKE 7 13
    13 Hakuryuho 6 12

    No hits on the extremely high tie-breaker result of 17 KK from 22 participating rikishi.


    The new ballot for Kyushu 2020:

     1. Kotoshoho      11
     2. Terunofuji      9
     3. Suzuki          9*
     4. Amakaze         9
        Tokisakae       7*
     5. Kitanowaka      8*
     6. Yoshii          8*
     7. Asanoyama       6
     8. Murata          6
     9. Kaishin         6
    10. Shodai          5
        Terutsuyoshi    4
    11. Tobizaru        5
    12. Jokoryu         5
    13. Ura             5
    14. Dewataikai      5
    15. Sadanoryu       5
    16. Otsuji          5
    17. Tosamidori      5
    ---
    18. Wakatakakage    4
    19. Hoshoryu        4
    20. Chiyonoo        4

    Lots of predicting work for us next time around.

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  20. Day 13

    Victory for Amakaze to complete a nuke-nuke kachikoshi with the 5th straight 4-3 record in his now 9-KK streak, so our yusho race has come down to Jejima and Asashosakari.
     

    Day 13:
    12/13 Decisions, TB 16-17
    Pos Player Pts TB
    1 Jejima 9 16
    2 Asashosakari 9 11
    2 Profomisakari 9 12
    4 Achiyama 8 16
    5 Mmikasazuma 8 13
    5 Ryoshishokunin 8 13
    5 Tsuchinoninjin 8 12
    8 Athenayama 7 12
    8 chishafuwaku 7 12
    8 Holleshoryu 7 12
    8 Sakura 7 12
    8 WAKATAKE 7 13
    13 Hakuryuho 5 12


    Achiyama and Jejima can still hit the tie-breaker with their (what I thought to be absurdly high...) guesses of 16 if Yoshii loses tomorrow. I have a feeling Jejima would still prefer him to win, though. ;-)

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  21. 1 hour ago, shumitto said:

    I have been playing chess for years now so I am quite familiar with the Swiss system. I just rephrased what I previously said to add the idea that I am not to convinced he is ready to survive lower Juryo. But thanks anyway.

    I didn't doubt your understanding of the system, I mentioned it to indicate that I don't think the "they're all makekoshi" factoid carries any significant meaning on its own. It's a 4-3 facing all opponents from a narrow band between J13 and Ms6, and Tsushimanada is the only opponent one might argue doesn't "belong" up there (and he's the lowest-ranked of the 7 anyway). There have been tons of similarly underwhelming 4-3's with different win-loss patterns that nobody tried to crystal-ball for added meaning, mostly because 4-3's are almost always underwhelming when they're done by rikishi who have a lot of miles on their career odometer.

    Anyway, at the very least a fairly done strength-of-schedule argument needs to also look at who he lost to, not only who he beat. "He only beat guys who were worse" makes little sense without allowing for the possibility of "he only lost to guys who were better".

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