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  1. Asashosakari

    Banzuke for Natsu(?) 2020

    Juryo Meisei J1 Chiyoshoma Tobizaru J2 Tochiozan Azumaryu J3 Kyokushuho Daiamami J4 Hidenoumi Kyokutaisei J5 Ichinojo Hoshoryu J6 Hakuyozan Daishomaru J7 Tsurugisho Wakamotoharu J8 Chiyootori Akiseyama J9 Churanoumi Daishoho J10 Asabenkei Fujiazuma J11 Kizakiumi Midorifuji J12 Chiyonoo Takagenji J13 Akua Chiyonoumi J14 Mitoryu
  2. As you may know there has yet to be a sekitori who was born in the Heisei era, i.e. since January 8, 1989, so I figured why not track the contenders for the honour? However, to give this thread some staying power (as it looks like the question may well be answered soon) I'm going to generalize the idea a bit and keep going afterwards - in other words, on a running basis we'll track all those rikishi who are younger than the most recently born sekitori until somebody succeeds in taking over that title, at which point the list will get pruned of all those older ones he managed to pass and we move on with a new yardstick rikishi. The current champion is Masuraumi, born 1988/10/15, who made his juryo debut back in March. That was long overdue in a way as the baton was previously held for over three years by one Wakanoho. So if a phenom comes along the wait for the next successful candidate could be quite long, but normally there should be a fairly frequent procession. Besides only featuring rikishi younger than Masuraumi the list below is restricted to rikishi who have at least reached makushita, although they don't currently need to be ranked in that division. (Seeing whose progress has stalled can be interesting, too, after all.) The number given in brackets after the birthdate is the rikishi's age ranking among all the rikishi that are part of the list. Only Tamadaiki is younger than Masuraumi but was still born prior to the Heisei era, so "Heisei Hopefuls" should be accurate enough. Barring extraordinary circumstances I'm not planning to do mid-basho updates here as I do on the Persistence Watch, but if anybody else wants to do commentary (no matter if one-off or regularly), you're welcome. And general comments on these kids are welcome as well, of course, in fact they're what this thread is supposed to encourage. And if there are any issues with the presentation that can be improved, let me know. So without further ado... Heisei Hopefuls - current yardstick: Masuraumi (1988/10/15, debut 2004.03, shin-juryo 2010.03) Rikishi Heya DOB (Rank) Debut HiRk 2009.07 2009.09 2009.11 2010.01 2010.03 2010.05 Takayasu Naruto 1990/02/28 (11) 2005.03 Ms10 Ms44e 4-3 Ms36w 5-2 Ms27e 4-3 Ms22w 4-3 Ms18w 5-2 Ms10w 4-3 Chiyonokuni Kokonoe 1990/07/10 (8) 2006.05 Ms24 Sd41e 6-1 Ms54e 2-5 Sd18e 4-3 Sd8e 4-3 Ms58e 6-1 Ms24e 4-3 Tamadaiki Kataonami 1988/11/02 (21) 2007.03 Ms24 Ms30e 3-4 Ms37e 4-3 Ms31w 4-3 Ms25e 3-4 Ms32e 4-3 Ms24w 3-4 Masunoyama Chiganoura 1990/11/01 (6) 2006.07 Ms25 Ms25e 2-5 Ms39e 4-3 Ms32w 3-4 Ms38e 4-3 Ms32w 4-3 Ms25e 6-1 Takanoiwa Takanohana 1990/02/26 (12) 2008.11 Ms13 Sd85e 6-1 Sd27w 4-3 Sd14w 7-0 Y Ms13w 3-4 Ms19e 3-4 Ms26e 2-5 Ryuden Takadagawa 1990/11/10 (5) 2006.03 Ms9 Ms46w 6-1 D Ms19w 4-3 Ms15e 5-2 Ms9w 3-4 Ms15e 2-5 Ms29e 4-3 Tokizakura Nakamura 1989/07/10 (17) 2005.03 Ms35 Sd9e 3-4 Sd27e 4-3 Sd14e 4-3 Sd5e 4-3 Ms56e 5-2 Ms38e 3-4 Kotoyuki Sadogatake 1991/04/02 (3) 2008.03 Ms26 Sd3e 5-2 Ms43w 3-4 Ms51w 5-2 Ms37w 5-1-1 Ms26w 2-5 Ms40w 3-4 Tochiyashiki Kasugano 1989/07/07 (18) 2008.03 Ms30 Ms56e 5-2 Ms41e 5-2 Ms30e 0-0-7 Sd10w 4-3 Ms60e 5-2 Ms43e 3-4 Bugendai Musashigawa 1989/01/21 (20) 2004.05 Ms43 Sd21e 5-2 Ms57e 4-3 Ms47w 2-5 Sd10e 5-2 Ms52w 4-3 Ms43w 3-4 Hishofuji Nakamura 1989/07/14 (16) 2005.03 Ms29 Ms39w 5-2 Ms29w 1-6 Ms59e 4-3 Ms52w 5-2 Ms39w 3-4 Ms47w 4-3 Kairyu Tagonoura 1990/03/01 (10) 2005.03 Ms29 Sd46e 4-3 Sd31e 5-2 Sd6e 4-3 Ms59e 6-1 Ms29e 1-6 Ms53w 3-4 Takageppo Takanohana 1990/04/19 (9) 2009.01 Ms59 Jd50w 6-1 Sd84w 5-2 Sd48w 4-3 Sd34w 4-3 Sd20w 5-2 Ms59e 2-5 Mankajo Kasugayama 1990/02/10 (13) 2005.03 Ms43 Ms53w 4-3 Ms44w 3-4 Ms52w 3-4 Sd4w 2-5 Sd27e 5-2 Sd2w 4-3 Chiyoarashi Kokonoe 1991/07/12 (1) 2007.03 Ms50 Ms56w 2-5 Sd20e 5-2 Ms57w 4-3 Ms50w 0-7 Sd25w 4-3 Sd13w 6-1 Kawanari Oguruma 1991/07/07 (2) 2007.03 Ms38 Ms47w 4-3 Ms38e 2-5 Ms54e 4-3 Ms47w 3-4 Ms54e 2-5 Sd16w 4-3 Kumagai Isenoumi 1990/08/25 (7) 2006.03 Ms50 Sd16w 3-4 Sd34e 4-3 Sd19e 5-2 Ms58e 4-3 Ms50e 1-6 Sd21e 4-3 Higoarashi Kise 1989/08/20 (14) 2006.05 Ms53 Ms59e 3-4 Sd15e 2-5 Sd39w 4-3 Sd24w 4-3 Sd11w 3-4 Sd26e 4-3 Dewahayate Dewanoumi 1989/01/31 (19) 2004.03 Ms50 Sd26e 4-3 Sd13w 3-4 Sd26w 4-3 Sd15w 4-3 Sd5w 2-5 Sd29e 4-3 Asahisho Oshima 1989/07/21 (15) 2005.03 Ms45 Ms45e 3-4 Ms56w 2-5 Sd22e 4-3 Sd11e 3-4 Sd23e 3-4 Sd39e 6-1 Kotokensei Sadogatake 1991/01/06 (4) 2006.03 Ms50 Sd14e 4-3 Sd3e 3-4 Sd13w 3-4 Sd26e 3-4 Sd41w 3-4 Sd55w 2-5 Three rikishi will be joining the list for Nagoya: Rikishi Heya DOB Debut HiRk 2009.07 2009.09 2009.11 2010.01 2010.03 2010.05 Tochinohama Kasugano 1989/01/29 2007.03 Sd5 Jd14w 5-2 Sd82e 4-3 Sd62w 2-4-1 Sd91e 5-2 Sd58e 6-1 Sd5w 4-3 Byakko Nakamura 1989/07/11 2005.03 Sd11 Sd37w 4-3 Sd23w 3-4 Sd36w 4-3 Sd22e 3-4 Sd36w 5-2 Sd13e 5-2 Kei Onomatsu 1990/03/10 2008.01 Sd16 Sd59w 4-3 Sd43w 4-3 Sd27e 4-3 Sd16w 3-4 Sd30e 3-4 Sd46e 6-1
  3. Asashosakari

    GTB Natsu 2020- 106 entries and results!

    I don't feel confident about anything below M4e: Hakuho (Ye 13-2 Y) Y Kakuryu (Yw 12-3) Takakeisho (Oe 7-8) O Asanoyama (Se 11-4) Shodai (Sw 8-7) S Mitakeumi (M3w 10-5) Daieisho (M1e 8-7) K Okinoumi (M2e 8-7) Endo (Kw 7-8) M1 Takanosho (M9e 12-3) Yutakayama (M3e 8-7) M2 Onosho (M5w 9-6) Takarafuji (M7e 9-6) M3 Kiribayama (M8w 9-6) Kagayaki (M6w 8-7) M4 Hokutofuji (Ke 4-11) Abi (M4w 7-8) M5 Enho (M4e 6-9) Aoiyama (M13w 11-4) M6 Ryuden (M5e 6-9) Terutsuyoshi (M11w 9-6) M7 Ishiura (M12e 9-6) Tokushoryu (M2w 4-11) M8 Chiyotairyu (M11e 8-7) Tamawashi (M7w 6-9) M9 Ikioi (M12w 8-7) Myogiryu (M6e 4-11) M10 Tochinoshin (M9w 6-9) Kaisei (M14e 8-7) M11 Sadanoumi (M10e 6-9) Shimanoumi (M16w 9-6) M12 Shohozan (M8e 4-11) Kotoshogiku (M13e 7-8) M13 Kotonowaka (M18e 9-6) Takayasu (M1w 0-5-10) M14 Kotoshoho (J6e 12-3 Y) Wakatakakage (J2w 10-5) M15 Chiyomaru (M15w 7-6-2) Kotoeko (J5e 11-4) M16 Terunofuji (J3e 10-5) Nishikigi (M14w 6-9) M17 Kotoyuki (J1e 8-7) No less than four switches from my initial draft for the GTB entry, wonder how many I'll come to regret: Enho/Aoiyama, Tochinoshin/Kaisei, Sadanoumi/Shimanoumi and Nishikigi/Kotoyuki. (Probably all of them if I have generally underestimated how far they're going to drop MKs here...)
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    GTB Natsu 2020- 106 entries and results!

    98 and 99 actually, one of the players listed ahead of Ganzohnesushi must have resubmitted moving him to 91 after he posted. @Shatsume Did you misspell your name on the entry just submitted?
  5. Asashosakari

    Sumo Reference Updates

    Something funky is going on with this rikishi's profile when it's among the search results on Rikishi.aspx - he shows up twice in a hatsu-dohyo search and four times in an intai date search. He seems to go from double to quadruple on his shikona change (Kyushu 2015 x2, Hatsu 2016 x4), but I guess that's just a symptom of the real problem. Hmm, looking a bit closer it appears that a whole bunch of Kyushu 2019 retirees are affected like that: query. 12 excess entries there via four rikishi getting three extras each.
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    General Corona Banter

    I didn't realize that journalists now constitute the "respective authorities" that are meant to be in charge of tracing transmission chains. (Also, just because they're not telling You, Concerned Citizen, doesn't necessarily mean the beat writers don't know which stable it is.) I trust you're busy contacting your local journalists to tell you all about every single Covid-19 case in your city of residence.
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    Corona and sumo

    And the reason you absolutely need to have this information is...? If the heya or the affected rikishi himself wishes to make it public, they should of course be free to do so (and one could well be doubtful that the Kyokai would let them), but as it stands I see no grounds for demanding that the Kyokai should publicize a particular member's medical status as long as it doesn't actually affect anybody in the public at large. And no matter if you think it's a "stupid excuse", unsalaried rikishi in makushita and below simply aren't considered public figures so I'm not quite sure what you expect the press club to do here. Set out to violate privacy rules that exist for good reason?
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    Corona and sumo

    I would say that also depends on just how much their training efforts get curtailed in the meantime. A basho full of rusty and undertrained rikishi might well bring its own injury risks, largely nullifying the benefits of a longer break.
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    Retirees after Haru 2020

    Prior example, with a twist: Hoshiiwato retired more than a week after the end of Hatsu 1991 to become Michinoku-oyakata. He did not feature on the Haru banzuke, although he was clearly included in its post-Hatsu draft, as the published banzuke ended up having only 119 makushita rikishi. So that's a third possible option for what they might have done with Sokokurai, next to listing him or leaving him off directly.
  10. Asashosakari

    Retirees after Haru 2020

    Well, no, that's not how it works. The new banzuke only takes effect with its release, and consequently the previous banzuke is in effect until the day before that. That aside, I'm pretty sure the banzuke does not actually govern membership status in the Kyokai, it merely reflects it. (Banzuke-gai rikishi exist, after all...)
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    Retirees after Haru 2020

    And they've also finally listed his intai now, backdated to March 26th (unsurprisingly). Be interesting to see if they omitted him from the Natsu banzuke; surely they already knew of his retirement on the 25th when the banzuke was drawn up, even if his Arashio takeover was only acknowledged the next day.
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    General Corona Banter

    Self-medicating with antibiotics as a precautionary measure as you're envisioning it ("have a healthy as possible population") would have been a very, very stupid thing to do even then. Possible != sensible. Yes, it would be much better to burden already overtaxed hospital personnel with people who stupidly mismedicated themselves out of fear. Not to mention even dumber people who end up contracting/spreading Covid-19 only because they think that taking the antibiotics means they're "safe" now and no longer have to practice social distancing. I'll bow out at this point so you can have enough time to convince your local government as promised.
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    Corona and sumo

    I'll say it again, there's just no way this is going to be done. The divisional structure notwithstanding, a honbasho is one single competition of all 650+ rikishi, which is fundamentally an assessment of skill first and a sports entertainment event second. Sports leagues with properly delineated tier systems may be thinking about such solutions right now because the top tier clubs are entirely separate entities from the lower tier ones (with the top tiers significantly more dependent on media revenues), but that's just not how the NSK is set up. They'll either have a proper all-hands honbasho or none at all. I'm sorry, but that's really, really stupid reasoning for wanting to give people carte blanche to self-medicate with antibiotics on a "just in case" basis, especially in a situation where many people are already prone to act even less rationally than they usually do. (Case in point...) Please, just stop digging yourself in even further.
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    General Corona Banter

    Yes, what we definitely need right now is the entire population getting given a free pass to start popping antibiotics like they're candy. Especially the many people who believe that antibiotics help against virus diseases. That's some forward thinking right there. (Leaving aside that the supply chains for them are unlikely to be robust enough to handle the sudden spike in demand that would undoubtedly happen, with the wonderful result that people who actually need to be on antibiotics might then find it difficult to procure them.)
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    General Corona Banter

    And nearly all of them are currently making contingency plans exactly the same way the NSK is, so I'm not sure what your point is here.
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    Corona and sumo

    In WWII time they had a handful of tournaments where the makushita and below matches were held behind closed doors at stables' training grounds rather than the main arena. (Presumably nowadays they'd use the sumo school.) That being said, I don't really see any point in doing that under the current circumstances. And having only the sekitori compete altogether just won't be happening, no way.
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    Corona and sumo

    It's effectively +2 weeks for Natsu and +1 week for Nagoya, since the latter was previously one week early to accommodate the Olympics. With Aki basho having a relatively late opening date this year anyway (September 13th), they'd be back on track without further adjustments, I'd imagine.
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    Latest news regarding kabu, Oyakata transfers, etc.

    http://www.sumo.or.jp/IrohaKyokaiInformation/detail?id=357 says that Arashio retired (as in gone) as of the 26th, the date the rijikai discussed it. But yeah, for some strange reason they've not bothered to update the website for any of it yet, and not in Japanese either; no intai listing for Sokokurai, and oyakata roster and duty list still show ex-Oyutaka as Arashio. Even the linked news blurb didn't appear on the site until the 28th, IIRC.
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    GTB Natsu 2020- 106 entries and results!

    And available in record time, not that that's a high bar to clear with my past performances: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VnH1QuxGBYnEVO2TZ-cl4CMCLgDEdeN_jI3pETC7Vx4/
  20. Asashosakari

    Long Kachikoshi Streaks - Haru 2020

    Scores for banzuke purposes: Tenshinhan 15 (13+top+tb) Athenayama 11 chishafuwaku 11 Mmikasazuma 11 Rocks 11 Tsuchinoninjin 11 Holleshoryu 10 Jejima 10 Katsunorifuji 10 Pitinosato 10 Sakura 10 wolfgangho 10 Asashosakari 10 (9+tb) Pandaazuma 9 Ryoshishokunin 9 Profomisakari 8 ryafuji 8 WAKATAKE 5 Total: 179 / 18 = 9.94 ---> -2 wins Ugh, that KK/MK split... Since the individual results called for a different solution - minus 3 wins for 6 KK / 12 MK - rather than the 13/5 we have now based on the average score, I tried out both alternatives to create the new banzuke. The one with the MK excess didn't work at all, so minus 2 wins it was (and this went surprisingly well). Very lucky turn of events for all the 10-point players. The new banzuke for Natsu 2020: Asashosakari (Ye 8-7) Y --- Mmikasazuma (Oe 9-6 J) O1 chishafuwaku (Ow 9-6 J) --- O2 Athenayama (S1e 9-6 J) Tenshinhan (Ke 13-2 Y) S Rocks (S2w 9-6 J) Jejima (M2e 8-7) K Sakura (M2w 8-7) Tsuchinoninjin (M5w 9-6 J) M1 Holleshoryu (M3w 8-7) Pandaazuma (Kw 7-8) M2 ryafuji (S1w 6-9) Ryoshishokunin (M1w 7-8) M3 wolfgangho (M6e 8-7) Joaoiyama (M3e kosho) M4 Katsunorifuji (NR 8-7) Pitinosato (NR 8-7) M5 robnplunder (M4e kosho) Profomisakari (M1e 6-9) M6 Achiyama (M5e kosho) WAKATAKE (M4w 3-12) M7 --- What a difference two months make - again 8-7 for the yokozuna, but while the Hatsu result was a near-miss in the yusho race, this one has come about in rather forgettable fashion. Third consecutive jun-yusho for ozeki Mmikasazuma, but for a successful tsunatori it continues to lack the necessary oomph to put her over the top. Another chance beckons in the very next basho, of course. Kadoban chishafuwaku cleared his name but given the sheer distance to the winner it's hard to consider it the start of a renewed tsuna run in his case. Congratulations are in order to still-fresh Athenayama, however, who ascends to the rank of ozeki after just three LKS participations. A run of solo 4th place, yusho-doten and now jun-yusho (9-11-9 in win terms) was sufficiently impressive here. Rocks had the same scores in the most recent two tournaments, but with a makekoshi in Kyushu basho he lacked the support of a third strong result to earn the promotion as well, something he may be able to change next time. Champion Tenshinhan moves up to sekiwake and finds himself in essentially the same position regarding an ozeki promotion, having also been MK back in November.
  21. Asashosakari

    Long Kachikoshi Streaks - Haru 2020

    Okay, I still owe the final results here: Day 15 Maegashira Yutakayama clinched his kachikoshi on senshuraku to remain in the game, something not quite half of us expected. One of them was our already-declared yusho winner, though, and for good measure it also helped him hit the tie-breaker score for an even more emphatic victory: Day 15: 18/18 Decisions, TB 12 Pos Player Pts TB 1 Tenshinhan 13 12 2 Athenayama 11 16 2 chishafuwaku 11 14 2 Mmikasazuma 11 13 2 Rocks 11 14 2 Tsuchinoninjin 11 11 7 Holleshoryu 10 14 7 Jejima 10 20 7 Katsunorifuji 10 15 7 Pitinosato 10 10 7 Sakura 10 13 7 wolfgangho 10 13 13 Asashosakari 9 12 14 Pandaazuma 9 13 14 Ryoshishokunin 9 14 16 Profomisakari 8 14 16 ryafuji 8 15 18 WAKATAKE 5 11 With the assorted W-L bonuses that'll be a 4-win margin for Tenshinhan ahead of the many-ways tie for second place. As far as I can tell that's a first; the most dominant results so far were seven cases of a 3-win margin. Asashosakari is the only other player to pick up the tie-breaker bonus win. The new ballot for Natsu(?) 2020: 1. Kotoshoho 9 2. Kotonowaka 8 Roga 7* 3. Terunofuji 7 4. Amakaze 7 5. Daikisho 7 6. Suzuki 7 Kotosusumu 6 7. Yutakayama 6 Akua 5 8. Tokisakae 6* 9. Kitanowaka 6* Shoji 5 Toma 5* 10. Yoshii 6* Ito 5* Enho 4 Hidenoumi 4 11. Araoyama 5* 12. Mishima 5* --- 13. Asanoyama 4 14. Ikioi 4 15. Kaisei 4 16. Hakuyozan 4 A nice batch of sekitori additions at the bottom, led by our incoming ozeki to provide LKS with a sanyaku presence again.
  22. Asashosakari

    Sumo and the Olympics

    I'll brace myself for numerous complaints from American casual fans if that basho starts on July 4th.
  23. Asashosakari

    Re-introducing myself

    Welcome back. Out with shin-ozeki Hakuho, in with shin-ozeki Asanoyama. You haven't missed much, I reckon.
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    Corona and sumo

    Back in 2010/11 when other basho were staged in non-standard manners, 500 million yen was cited as the per-basho rights fee that NHK is paying to broadcast sumo. At 3 billion yen total for a year that was about 30% of the Kyokai's annual revenues at the time, and would still be around 25% today. (I don't know if the broadcast fees have changed much, but I'm assuming they're not lower now.) That's less than they're taking in from ticket sales, but it's not exactly chump change.
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    Sumo Reference Updates

    Shishi's rank and record for 2020.01 ought to be Mz 0-0-5 as customary for the delayed foreign deshi, not Bg 0-0. And on a more random note: The basho location for 1927.03 currently reads "Tokyo, Osaka Uehon-machi Roku-chome", but the Tokyo part clearly shouldn't be there.