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  1. Asashosakari

    Trivia bits

    More common than you might think. Just checking the most recent two tournaments turns up four cases: Amamidake-Satonofuji Atamifuji-Kototsubasa Kitaharima-Kotodaigo Kokuryunami-Kotoegashira
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    Seki-Toto/Quad/Oracle banzuke for Hatsu 2022

    @Golynohana If it's still possible, please delete Kyoju's empty Oracle entry from the November results, my removal of it slightly changed the juryo W-L scores from what's currently shown on the game pages.
  3. Seki-Toto (play): Ozeki ScreechingOwl was on tsunatori watch for Kyushu basho, and while he finished with a decent 10-5 record only one win off the winner's (and the runner-up's) score, his third place was shared with no less than 10 other players, making it a somewhat mundane result by promotional expectations. Definitely still good enough to see the run carried over to Hatsu, though - best of luck! The other two ozeki Athenayama and Konosato will be kadoban after both went 6-9, a score that was also posted by yokozuna Pandaazuma. Fellow tsuna wearer Norizo, meanwhile, had an excellent basho that finished with him in the doten runner-up spot. Unkonoyama, demoted from ozeki last time, unfortunately fell just short of the automatic repromotion by scoring 9 wins. Moving on down the ranks, things went haywire most spectacularly. With the makuuchi division as a whole already scoring one of its higher marks in recent memory with 7.9 wins per player, the joi completely obliterated that number: The 18 players ranked sekiwake to M6e averaged no less than 8.7 wins, with a split of 15 KK to 3 MK. That also meant that the rest of the top flight wasn't nearly as impressive, the remaining 18 players from M6w to M15e scoring pedestrian 7.5 wins comprising just 8 MK and 10 MK. (I'm even leaving out the bottom-ranked M15w who went 2-13 to drag things down even further if included.) The upshot of all that: Something had to be done, but a full-division scoring adjustment didn't work. I ended up settling on the same ugly solution I last employed some three years ago (for both Haru 2018 and Aki 2018), with 8-7's treated as 7.5 wins, their normal do-not-demote requirement waived, and all joi records otherwise compared relatively to each other. In general, look at your score as though it was reduced by one win, because that's what it functionally is (other than 8-7's not getting a full makekoshi treatment, which would have seen them drop even further). The crunch continued all the way to M7e in the new ranking, after which the player movements proceeded in much more normal fashion. Norizo (Yw 11-4 D) Y Pandaazuma (Ye 6-9) ScreechingOwl (O1e 10-5) O1 Athenayama (O1w 6-9) Konosato (O2e 6-9) O2 - Kotononami (S1w 10-5) S1 Bill (S2e 10-5) - S2 Unkonoyama (S2w 9-6) Ganzohnesushi (M1w 10-5) K1 Chishafuwaku (S1e 8-7) Chijanofuji (M2w 10-5) K2 Kintamayama (M3e 10-5) Joaoiyama (M2e 9-6) M1 DeRosa (K1w 8-7) Taka (K2w 8-6-1) M2 Andoreasu (M5e 10-5) Kishikaisei (M3w 9-5-1) M3 Gaanaa (M6e 10-5) Oskahanada (M4e 9-6) M4 Flohru (M8w 10-5) Oortael (K1e 6-9) M5 Toonoryu (M1e 7-8) Metzinowaka (M8e 9-6) M6 Golynohana (M5w 8-7) Gawasukotto (M9w 9-6) M7 Terarno (M11w 9-6) Kaito (M14e 10-5) M8 Chankoyama (M12e 9-6) Andonishiki (M4w 6-9) M9 Fujisan (M7e 7-8) Chelseayama (J1w 11-4 Y) M10 Gernobono (M6w 6-9) Asashosakari (M9e 7-8) M11 Frinkanohana (M13w 8-7) Achiyama (M10e 7-8) M12 Takanorappa (M10w 7-7-1) Susanoo (M15e 8-7) M13 Mariohana (J2e 9-6) Hana-ichi (J2w 9-6) M14 Herritarooo (M12w 7-8) Kitakachiyama (M11e 6-9) M15 Kuroimori (M7w 4-11) Asapedroryu (J4w 9-6) J1 Benihana (J5e 9-6) Jakusotsu (J3e 8-7) J2 Anjoboshi (M13e 6-7-2) Atenzan (J1e kosho) J3 Ketsukai (J6e 9-6) Jejima (M14w 6-6-3) J4 Sakura (J5w 8-7) Umigame (J3w 7-8) J5 Kaiowaka (J8e 8-7) Kobashi (J9e 8-7) J6 Nantonoyama (J6w kosho) Kajiyanosho (J12e 9-6) J7 Balon (J12w 9-6) Kashunowaka (J10w 8-6-1) J8 Getayukata (J14e 9-6) Onakaderu (J4e 5-10) J9 Hidenotora (Ms3e 10-5) Tomisakae (Ms1e 9-6) J10 GONZABUROW (M15w 2-13) Netsuzakura (Ms2w 9-6) J11 Gansekiiwa (J11e 7-8) Andrasoyamawaka (Ms3w 9-6) J12 Akishiki (J9w 6-9) Effinojo (J13e kosho) J13 Chudorj (J10e 6-6-3) Choshu-yuki (J8w 5-10) J14 Kyoju (J7e 4-11) Holleshoryu (J11w 6-9) Ms1 Ahokaina (J7w 4-9-2) Oshirokita (Ms6w 8-7) Ms2 Profomisakari (J14w 6-9) Damimonay (Ms1w 5-10) Ms3 Ulishimaru (Ms6e 6-9) Mmikasazuma (Ms5w 5-7-3) Ms4 Neko (J13w 2-5-8) Sutarokku (Ms5e kosho) Ms5 Oyama (Ms7e 5-10) WAKATAKE (Ms4w 3-10-2) Ms6 Dan Koloff (Ms9e 5-10) Rowitoro (Ms7w 4-11) Ms7 Saruyama (Ms4e 2-12-1) Toyama (Ms8e kosho) Ms8 Sukubidubidu (Ms2e 0-1-14) Unagiyutaka2 (Ms8w 2-9-4) Ms9 Sherlockiama (Ms9w 1-3-11) Hakuryuho (Ms10e kosho) Ms10 Aderechelseamaru (Ms11e kosho)
  4. Asashosakari

    Seki-Toto/Quad/Oracle banzuke for Hatsu 2022

    Seki-Oracle (play): Two Oracle yokozuna entered Kyushu basho with their rope on the line, having been at risk of a fourth makekoshi within their last six tournaments. Pandaazuma extracted himself from that predicament in impressive fashion with the basho's jun-yusho result and a converted 11-4 record. Choshu-yuki cut things much more close with a score of 8-7, just one point away from makekoshi. And she's not out of the woods yet since her previous three MK came bunched so closely together that it's still possible for her to go 4-MK-in-6 in the upcoming tournament. She's joined on the chopping block for Hatsu basho by our third yokozuna Norizo; he only has two recent makekoshi but they have come in back-to-back appearances, and a third straight one would also be grounds for retirement. No ozeki were kadoban in November, but that has changed now after no less than three of them went makekoshi, including freshly promoted chishafuwaku. Fellow newcomer Gansekiiwa is the only second-ranker who can breathe easy for Hatsu, although he too posted a mere 8-7 record in Kyushu. Kaito was ranked as ozeki not long ago, too, but three straight MK - two at the rank and one more as sekiwake - saw him drop back into the maegashira ranks after July. He followed up on that with the yusho in September (converted score 13-2) and another credible outing in Fukuoka, which saw him tied for third place and with a 10-5 record in hand. I considered waiving the usual requirement for three strong scores before promotion is merited, but decided against it in the end as the more recent result just wasn't quite as excellent as it would need to be for a successful two-basho run (particularly in light of the yusho winner having been miles ahead at 14-1). The pair of results is obviously an outstanding lead-in to Hatsu basho, however, where Kaito will hopefully convert on his opportunity. Pandaazuma (Y1e 11-4) Y1 Choshu-yuki (Y1w 8-7) Norizo (Y2e 7-8) Y2 - Gansekiiwa (O2w 8-7) O1 chishafuwaku (O2e 7-8) DeRosa (O1e 5-10) O2 Oskahanada (O1w 5-10) Kaito (Se 10-5) S1 Bill (M4e 14-1 Y) - S2 Golynohana (K1e 9-6) Andoreasu (K1w 8-7) K Taka (M5e 10-5) Asashosakari (M6e 10-5) M1 Oortael (M3e 8-7) Wamahada (M5w 9-6) M2 Frinkanohana (M3w 8-7) Konosato (M1e 7-8) M3 Oshirokita (K2w 6-9) Andrasoyama (Sw 5-10) M4 Torafujii (M7e 9-6) Flohru (M7w 9-6) M5 Kitakachiyama (M8e 9-6) ScreechingOwl (M6w 8-7) M6 Ganzohnesushi (M2e 6-9) Mariohana (M4w 7-8) M7 GONZABUROW (M9w 9-6) Kishikaisei (M1w 5-10) M8 Unkonoyama (M13e 10-5) Pitinosato (M10e 8-7) M9 Sakura (M2w 4-11) Shatsume (M11w 8-7) M10 Balon (M8w 7-8) joaoiyama (M9e 7-8) M11 Kotononami (M10w 7-8) Kasamatsuri (J3w 11-4) M12 Susanoo (M12e 7-8) Profomisakari (J4e 11-4) M13 Athenayama (J2e 10-5) Sukubidubidu (M11e 6-9) M14 Takanorappa (J4w 10-5) Kaiowaka (J1w 8-7) M15 Hakase (M15e 7-8) Saruyama (M13w 6-9) J1 Jejima (M14w 6-9) Terarno (J8w 10-5) J2 Ruziklao (J2w kosho) Nantonoyama (J3e kosho) J3 Holleshoryu (M14e 5-10) Kobashi (J8e 9-6) J4 Kurofuji (J6e 8-7) Tsuchinoninjin (J5e kosho) J5 Metzinowaka (M15w 5-10) Mmikasazuma (M12w 3-12) J6 Netsuzakura (J1e 4-11) Seki Haruaki (J9w 7-8) J7 Andonishiki (J7e 5-10) Kajiyanosho (J5w 4-11) J8 Fujisan (J6w 4-11) Hidenotora (J11e 6-9) J9 Anjoboshi (J9e 5-10) reeeen (J10e 4-11) J10 Doreikishi (J11w 4-11) Kintamayama (J7w 0-0-15) J11 Kyoju (J10w 0-0-15)
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    Seki-Toto/Quad/Oracle banzuke for Hatsu 2022

    Seki-Quadrumvirate (play): Ozeki Norizo was at risk of demotion after back-to-back 7-8's, but in Kyushu he managed to clear his name completely with a 10-5 record. Fellow ozeki Kobashi went 6-9, but as it's his first MK he's not immediately in danger. Flohru had dropped out of the second-highest rank two months ago after three straight MK, and for good measure he added on a fourth in November to miss the 10-5 repromotion target by a mile. Bill was demoted from ozeki another two months before that, and while he also failed to go back up immediately, he has since scored records of 9-6 and 10-5 to be in an excellent position to secure a standard promotion with another good result in the upcoming tournament. He's joined at sekiwake by Kaito, whose victory in Kyushu was his second Quad yusho of the last four tournaments, unfortunately with scores of just 6-9 and 8-7 in between so he's not quite an immediate promotion contender. Not much else to say here, it was a basho with rather average scoring and no significant issues in creating the new rankings. The most notable feature is arguably that we're down to just 9 sanyaku players after no less than 5 sekiwake and komusubi went makekoshi, allowing the titled ranks to be cut by one spot for this banzuke. Norizo (Ow 10-5) O Kobashi (Oe 6-9) Bill (S1e 10-5) S1 Kaito (M2e 11-4 Y) Jakusotsu (K2e 9-6) S2 Kishikaisei (K2w 9-6) ScreechingOwl (M2w 9-5-1) K1 Konosato (M3e 9-6) Hironoumi (M1w 8-6-1) K2 - Ganzohnesushi (S2e 7-8) M1 Golynohana (S1w 6-9) Kitakachiyama (M5w 9-6) M2 Flohru (S2w 6-9) Athenayama (M6e 9-6) M3 Pandaazuma (K1e 6-9) Oskahanada (M8w 10-5) M4 chishafuwaku (K1w 6-9) Choshu-yuki (M9e 10-5) M5 Asashosakari (M7e 8-7) Kashunowaka (M3w 7-7-1) M6 Susanoo (M5e 7-8) GONZABUROW (M1e 5-10) M7 joaoiyama (M16w 11-4 D) Jejima (M11w 9-6) M8 Asapedroryu (M4e 6-9) Kotononami (J1e 11-4 D) M9 Kuroimori (M11e 8-7) Nantonoyama (M12e 8-6-1) M10 Getayukata (M6w 6-8-1) DeRosa (M4w 5-10) M11 Unkonoyama (M15e 9-5-1) Andoreasu (M9w 7-8) M12 Fujisan (M7w 6-8-1) Metzinowaka (M10w 7-8) M13 Sakura (M16e 8-7) Taka (M8e 5-10) M14 Chankoyama (M13w 7-8) Ketsukai (J8w 11-4 D) M15 Gansekiiwa (J6e 10-5) Balon (M15w 7-7-1) M16 Oortael (J3e 8-7) Andrasoyama (M12w 5-9-1) M17 - Netsuzakura (J4e 8-7) J1 Holleshoryu (J13e 11-4 D) Kyoju (M14w 5-10) J2 Achiyama (M13e 4-10-1) Andonishiki (J9e 9-6) J3 Sukubidubidu (J7e 8-7) Oyama (J7w 8-7) J4 Chocshoporyu (J3w 7-8) Gernobono (J1w 6-9) J5 Kintamayama (J2e 6-9) Anjoboshi (J2w 6-7-2) J6 Mariohana (J5e 7-7-1) Rowitoro (M14e 3-12) J7 Frinkanohana (J10e 8-7) Fujiyama (M10e 0-0-15) J8 Hidenotora (J5w 6-9) Saruyama (Ms1w 9-5-1) J9 reeeen (J4w 5-9-1) Kasamatsuri (Ms2w 8-6-1) J10 Hakushin (J8e 5-7-3) Furanohana (J11e kosho) J11 Profomisakari (J6w 4-11) Kazejihi (Ms4w 8-7) J12 Doreikishi (J13w 7-8) Ruziklao (J14w 7-7-1) J13 Takanorappa (J12e 6-7-2) Kajiyanosho (J12w 6-9) J14 Hakase (Ms6w 8-7) McBugger (Ms1e kosho) Ms1 Unagiyutaka (J10w 5-6-4) Terarno (J14e 6-9) Ms2 Oshirokita (Ms4e 7-8) Kaiowaka (Ms2e 6-9) Ms3 Neko (J11w 4-3-8) Hogashi (Ms3e 6-7-2) Ms4 Kyodaitimu (J9w 3-12) Toyama (Ms5e kosho) Ms5 Chibiyama (Ms5w 5-10) Mmikasazuma (Ms3w 3-9-3) Ms6 kamogawa (Ms7e 2-12-1) Splism (Ms6e 0-0-15) Ms7 -
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    Long Kachikoshi Streaks - Hatsu 2022

    The delayed announcement does mean I can immediately point out that one of the intended starters will not be part of the game: Off-ballot rikishi Nishihara is listed as kyujo by the Kyokai, so please take that into account in making your tie-breaker selections.
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    Future prospects to keep an eye on

    Or sometimes, developing further just isn't in the cards. I'm convinced that some high school and collegiate rikishi build themselves (or are being built by their coaches) to peak at those levels, regardless of how it compromises their future upside. The eye test on, say, Oshoryu - he of the 24-0 start - showed a guy just turned 23 who looked built like a battle-hardened makuuchi veteran in his late 20s. The casual fan consensus was something along the lines of "this guy is gonna dominate all the way to makuuchi looking like that!", while the truth was arguably more like "welp, all the upside this guy has left anymore is on the technical side, and that doesn't look like it's going to amount to much". Of course, if you're built to peak in college and that peak puts you around MsTd quality, it probably will be enough to lead to a decent sekitori career anyway. Mitoryu comes to mind as an example of that. However, if you're not quite Mitoryu in college, then you're probably Oshoryu in the pros.
  8. Asashosakari

    Banzuke for Hatsu 2022 Makuuchi Terunofuji Y --- Takakeisho O Shodai Mitakeumi S Takanosho Meisei K Daieisho Wakatakakage M1 Kiribayama Ura M2 Ichinojo Tamawashi M3 Endo Okinoumi M4 Hokutofuji Onosho M5 Chiyoshoma Hoshoryu M6 Abi Takayasu M7 Takarafuji Hidenoumi M8 Tobizaru Chiyonokuni M9 Shimanoumi Myogiryu M10 Akua Sadanoumi M11 Terutsuyoshi Ishiura M12 Chiyotairyu Chiyomaru M13 Yutakayama Kotonowaka M14 Ichiyamamoto Wakamotoharu M15 Tochinoshin Aoiyama M16 Tsurugisho Kotoeko M17 Kaisei Oho M18 ---
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    Can users leaving the forum delete all their posts?

    It's to be found at the top of the thread under the "Moderation Actions" button, not on the first post itself.
  10. Keep in mind that this story became public with their suspensions from Hatsu basho already a part of it, so it's highly likely that a lot had happened before that already that we've not been made privy to. Compare to Asanoyama's scandal where both his shisho and the Kyokai were clearly caught flat-footed by its initial appearance in the press, and they had to scramble to deal with it.
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    non-standard banzuke release dates (since 2000)

    Since this topic came up in the GTB thread the other day, I've updated it with the currently available data, up to 2023, as well as some notes covering events since the original posting four years ago.
  12. Collected on the occasion of the upcoming release of the Hatsu banzuke, which is responsible for most of the cases. Hatsu Basho Year Banzuke Shonichi 2000 Dec 22 Wednesday Jan 09 2001 Dec 20 Wednesday Jan 07 2002 Dec 25 Tuesday Jan 13 2003 Dec 24 Tuesday Jan 12 2004 Dec 24 Wednesday Jan 11 2005 Dec 23 Thursday Jan 09 2006 Dec 21 Wednesday Jan 08 2007 Dec 21 Thursday Jan 07 2008 Dec 20 Thursday Jan 13 2009 Dec 24 Wednesday Jan 11 2010 Dec 21 Monday Jan 10 2011 Dec 21 Tuesday Jan 09 2012 Dec 21 Wednesday Jan 08 2013 Dec 24 Monday Jan 13 2014 Dec 24 Tuesday Jan 12 2015 Dec 24 Wednesday Jan 11 2016 Dec 24 Thursday Jan 10 2017 Dec 26 Monday Jan 08 2018 Dec 26 Tuesday Jan 14 2019 Dec 25 Tuesday Jan 13 2020 Dec 24 Tuesday Jan 12 2021 Dec 24 Thursday Jan 10 2022 Dec 24 Friday Jan 09 2023 Dec 26 Monday Jan 08 2024 Dec 25 Monday Jan 14 Hatsu 2017 (Dec 26 -> Jan 08) had the only regular "13 days before" release during all these years. Doesn't seem to be any real pattern to it except that Fridays-Sundays are obviously being avoided. (Edit: Not anymore on both counts; see December 2021 updates below.) Natsu Basho Year Banzuke Shonichi 2001 Apr 25 Wednesday May 13 2002 Apr 24 Wednesday May 12 2003 Apr 23 Wednesday May 11 2007 Apr 25 Wednesday May 13 2008 Apr 24 Thursday May 11 2013 Apr 25 Thursday May 12 2014 Apr 24 Thursday May 11 2019 Apr 30 Tuesday May 12 2024 Apr 30 Tuesday May 12 Early releases largely due to Golden Week, although they seem have ceased this practice now: This year's Natsu basho started on May 14 and the banzuke release was regularly scheduled for May 1. The 2018 Natsu banzuke was actually scheduled for such an early Apr 26 (Thursday) release when the 2018 calendar was originally published (similar to the previous cases when the tournament started on the 13th), but that has since been changed to the regular date Apr 30. And then in 2019 they're actually planning to release a day late (only 12 days before shonichi), likely because Monday Apr 29 coincides with Shōwa Day. Some additional notes: 2013 saw multiple adjustments. The basho was originally scheduled to start on May 05, with the banzuke to be released Apr 22 on the standard Monday. The tournament was eventually rescheduled to start on May 12 and the banzuke day set for Apr 29, but presumably also due to Shōwa Day this was then changed to Apr 25 as listed in the table. (So they've learned from that for 2019, although it's not going to be an early release now.) In addition, the original calendar for 2015 had a scheduled banzuke day of Thursday Apr 23, continuing the pattern from 2013/14, but then they seemingly realized that there was no need for it when the basho already starts on May 10, and it was changed to the regular Apr 27. Nagoya Basho Year Banzuke Shonichi 2024 Jun 24 Monday Jul 14 Two further cases to complete the list: The Nagoya 2010 banzuke saw an emergency delay by a week (thread) and was only released six days before shonichi; the reason was the at the time ongoing investigation into the rikishi gambling scandal. And the May 2011 not-a-honbasho following the yaocho scandal saw no official banzuke release at all, just an informal ranking announcement. (The originally scheduled banzuke day was on the standard date, though.) ------------------------------------------------------------ Comments added in December 2021: The May 2020 tournament, scheduled to start on May 10 and with a regular banzuke release date of Apr 27, was cancelled due to Covid-19 concerns. Its banzuke was carried over unchanged to the July tournament, which consequently had no banzuke release of its own. That tournament was originally set to start at the early date of Jul 5 (banzuke release Jun 22) to avoid clashing with the eventually postponed 2020 Summer Olympics, but ended up starting two weeks later on Jul 19, also as a result of Covid-19. Conversely, the July 2021 tournament that had an original starting date of Jul 11 (with banzuke release on Jun 28) ended up getting moved up by a week to Jul 04 due to the rescheduled Olympics; the banzuke release date was correspondingly changed to Jun 21. The Hatsu basho table has been expanded with information for 2021 up to 2023. Hatsu 2022 has seen the first Friday banzuke release going back to at least the start of this thread's coverage. Hatsu 2023, however, will repeat the 2017 scenario with the basho starting on Jan 08 and the banzuke getting released on the regular Monday, Dec 26. ------------------------------------------------------------ Updated May 2022 upon the release of the 2024 schedule, featuring an abnormal date for the Nagoya basho banzuke.
  13. No, "transfer" was also used in reference to the Araiso->Nishonoseki rikishi, and they're obviously staying put (for now at least, temporary heya and all that). I don't think Hanaregoma's new place (assuming it's legitimately happening) is anywhere near ready anyway. Outside of a handful of Twitter comments during the last few days that were all very sparse on details, the earliest mention whatsoever that I've been able to dig up was a very brief "I heard some good news today, there's a third sumo beya coming to Adachi-ku" off-hand comment on the (mostly non-sumo) blog of a Tokyo local, less than two months ago. If there's more tangible evidence out there, e.g. along the lines of the named construction site image plus target date for opening that we got for Oshiogawa's new one, I have yet to see it. The sports papers didn't say anything about it in covering the Nishonoseki realignment. Edit: Although I see now that WWWJDIC's sole provided translation for 転属 tenzoku is "changing assignments", which I guess is treated as not idiomatic enough and thus ends up as "transfer" in all the fulltext translation engines. That sounds somewhat less like a truly physical move, but it's arguably still implying that there's one entity to come from and a separate one to go to, not what it truly is here, a simple name change. (And notably, tenzoku was used all the same for the tokoyama who's going to Kataonami which actually is someplace else entirely.)
  14. The verbiage around these situations is always a bit confusing, case in point being the Nishonoseki->Hanaregoma case where Nikkan Sports was simultaneously describing it today as "Hanaregoma is succeeding as the head of the Nishonoseki stable" and "members are transferring to the Hanaregoma stable". The aforelinked Hochi article is saying that it's Oguruma's wish that his two prized students set out on their own rather than take over, but at this point I wouldn't rule out that this will simply mean that the stable isn't going to continue under the Oguruma name, but rather one of theirs. As Akinomaki's closing remark insinuated the rikishi and other stable members will have to go somewhere in any case. Anyway, I believe we assumed a few months ago that Oshiogawa will be the one to branch out properly (the article reiterates April as the target date) since his heya building is already under construction while Nakamura seemingly isn't that far along yet. (Edit: Hanaregoma-beya can't be treated as a true newly founded heya anyway, ex-Tamanoshima doesn't have the basho numbers for it.)
  15. The Kyokai made the various Nishonoseki-involving changes official today, stating that the approval was made at a board meeting on December 2nd, so that's probably also the date as of which everything officially happened. The duties list page should be able to confirm via its revision date - eventually anyway, at this moment it's not updated yet. The rest of the Kyokai site does have the new names and stable affiliations already, so Ichiyamamoto, Shohozan et al. will be competing as Hanaregoma-beya members under ex-Tamanoshima from Hatsu, while ex-Kisenosato's place is now Nishonoseki-beya (and he himself is now Nishonoseki-oyakata, of course). Ex-Wakashimazu will be known as Araiso-oyakata until his forthcoming retirement on January 12; it remains to be seen if he's going for the five re-employment years afterwards. Somewhat unusually for a simple change-of-ownership transfer, one erstwhile Nishonoseki-beya member will not be in Hanaregoma-beya now; first-class tokoyama Tokohira has moved to Kataonami-beya.
  16. Asashosakari

    SumoForum's 10th anniversary!

    Long overdue thread bump. To another 10 years!
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    Banzuke for Hatsu 2022

    His previous rank of Ms14w is the second-lowest ever for somebody who scored 6 wins there and then got promoted all the way to Ms1.
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    Banzuke for Hatsu 2022

    Suspended Asanoyama got off very lightly with a demotion of only 10.5 ranks to J4e. I really thought they would put him a little further down, to avoid him clogging up a spot in the top 5 ranks that tend to comprise the primary promotion challengers, and by the same token to make it more feasible to put him at Ms6e or lower next time (much like Abi got put at Ms16e rather than into the top 15 on his way down). I suppose they could still be harsh with him in the next session and engineer the latter part, but I think I'm now expecting Asanoyama to clog a valuable spot in March.
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    GTB- Hatsu 2022- RESULTS!! 133 entries , 17 new players

    Not always. Although the "not on Friday-Sunday" guideline I derived back then just went out the window today. Next year it's scheduled for Monday, December 26 anyway. (One more thread I oughta update sometime...)
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    Banzuke for Hatsu 2022

    Makushita Sandanme Jonidan Jonokuchi (New shikona in red.)
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    Banzuke for Hatsu 2022

    Makushita-joi Kyokushuho Ms1 Atamifuji Tamashoho Ms2 Shimazuumi Takakento Ms3 Jokoryu Kairyu Ms4 Tochimaru Ryuden Ms5 Kyokutaisei Dewanoryu Ms6 Kotodaigo Roga Ms7 Hokaho Kotoozutsu Ms8 Fukai Mineyaiba Ms9 Kanno Tsukahara Ms10 Asabenkei Tsushimanada Ms11 Oshoryu Oshoma Ms12 Hokuseiho Chiyonoumi Ms13 Chiyosakae Kamito Ms14 Asagyokusei Tomokaze Ms15 Kitaharima
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    Banzuke for Hatsu 2022

    Juryo Kagayaki J1 Bushozan Nishikigi J2 Kotoshoho Daiamami J3 Shohozan Asanoyama J4 Kotokuzan Kaisho J5 Azumaryu Asanowaka J6 Daishomaru Mitoryu J7 Daishoho Tohakuryu J8 Midorifuji Nishikifuji J9 Churanoumi Tokushoryu J10 Enho Hakuyozan J11 Chiyonoo Shiden J12 Kitanowaka Kotoyusho J13 Chiyoarashi Hiradoumi J14 Yago
  23. Shid(en) happens, or rather in this case he doesn't happen...
  24. At the risk of being too flippant - if we knew of one we'd be using it, y'know?