Kashunowaka

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  1. 22 minutes ago, Reonito said:

    I'm generally 100% with you on conspiracy theories, but I don't think it's conspiratorial to think that a committee that consists of coaches ranking their own wrestlers might have its decisions influenced, even if on the margins, by personal considerations in addition to wins and losses 

    It could also go the other way. In the interest of appearing impartial, you might actually treat your own wrestlers less favourably. Not all people are created equal.


  2. @Jejima The first poll question says "2022" where it should be "2023".

    11 kinboshi given out in 2022? That's a lot... I think there will be fewer in 2023 but I still answered 9, how about: Tamawashi, Onosho, Meisei, Ura, Oho, Ichiyamamoto, Kiribayama, Mitakeumi and Hiradoumi.

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  3. Some thoughts and impressions from Kyushu basho 2022.

    I never thought I would say this, but Chiyoshoma is growing on me. His bout today against Endo was an example of solid sumo, winning by oshidashi for a change. A narrow make-koshi this time but he is holding his own in makuuchi.

    Wakamotoharu has improved a lot this year. Five kachikoshi in makuuchi and ending the year with 10-5, 10-5 is impressive. Under more normal banzuke circumstances he would be komusubi next basho.

    22-year old Oho's development is more expected. Having such a great first week meant that he was pitted against strong competition in the second week, including the aforementioned Wakamotoharu in an excellent bout. Let's hope that Oho doesn't emulate Kotoshoho, who has been one of the biggest disappointments since his makuuchi debut.

    Kachikoshi for Midorifuji at M3? Thoroughly deserved, but I wonder if he will be "figured out" like Enho was and drop back to lower makuuchi.

    Poor Terutsuyoshi.

    Meisei is back where he belongs. Good enough to cause trouble for anyone on a good day but inconsistent. Hardly ozeki material, as opposed to Takanosho who I think is ozeki material but is currently far from the level he showed in May.

    I liked Hiradoumi in juryo and was happy to see him do so well this basho.

    Kotonowaka is already the guy with the worst banzuke luck ever: tied worst promotion from M6w/11-4 to M2w, followed by worst promotion from M2w/9-6 to M2e. He is sanyaku level in all but name, and perhaps he will finally get that komusubi slot now that Mitakeumi lost. Kotonowaka is solid but kind of boring IMHO, but if this style eventually takes him to ozeki I am all for it.

    Time to start taking Tobizaru seriously, I guess. He has also reached a new level recently, which I prefer compared to the "flying monkey" style.

    I didn't expect Nishikifuji to get kachikoshi at this rank, but with so many sanyaku M5w was actually well outside the joi-jin. And if your sumo works at M10, why not at M5. Next basho will be the real test for him.

    Disappointing to see Hoshoryu be the sole leader after day 11, only to drop out of the yusho race three days later. Still 11-4, start of an ozeki run or just a fluke?

    Regarding the yusho outcome I don't have much to add that hasn't been said, except that it was exciting, anticlimactic, heartbreaking, expected and well-deserved in that order.

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  4. 18 hours ago, Yamanashi said:

    2) If he takes off his kadoban basho and guarantees a fall to Sekiwake, he gets twice as much hassle from the Guardians of the Sumo Galaxy.

    It wouldn't be the first time. If you are unable to fight, what else can you do.


  5. 35 minutes ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

    It looks very tight at the makunouchi/ juryo boundary. I have Terutsuyoshi and Hiradoumi hanging on by the last half-millimeter of their fingernails at the expense of Tohakuryu.

    Juryo was very interesting and entertaining this time around and should be even better in November. A block of very talented young wrestlers are working their way up. Tochimusashi took the yusho this time but Kitanowaka and Hokuseiho should also be in makunouchi this time next year. And Kinbozan looks like an absolute beast.

    After Hokuseiho blasted through the lower divisions and eventually made a belated juryo debut, I had quite high hopes of him. I have adjusted my expectations a little after this basho: there seem to be some glaring holes in his sumo. He has the physical tools, but I am not sure that his passive, standup style of sumo will cut it against harder makuuchi opposition. Still plenty of time for him to improve though.


  6. 11 hours ago, WAKATAKE said:

    Shukun-sho for Tamawashi and Tobizaru (conditional)

    Kanto-Sho for Takayasu and Hokutofuji (conditional)

    Gino-Sho for Wakatakage

    Wakatakakage has been a frequent subscriber to the gino-sho and couldn't be more well deserved IMHO. Let's hope that he makes himself ineligible for sansho soon. 

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  7. 5 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

    He already brought 4 of his uchi-deshi to sekitori, 3 of them to makuuchi, though not for long. Next basho Hokuseiho is the heya top and he should have a more lasting career. Nishonoseki has much to do to catch up with Hak in respect of coaching quality, also Naruto. So far Hakuho is the best coach among the younger shisho.

    It's too early to judge. 


  8. 17 hours ago, Gospodin said:

    Perhaps a training demonstration of his very last kachiage ?

    Seriously, it would really surprise if Hakuho wouldn´t take care of wrong antics which brought himself trouble. If he doesn´t he is just another of those sports greats who turned out to be bad coaches, but I do not think he falls into that category.

    I would be pleasantly surprised if Hakuho is in fact a good coach, judging from how previous dai-yokozuna have fared as coaches.


  9. I think that the henka from Takakeisho was *fantastic* too watch.

    My memory might serve me wrong, but from what I recall there were more henkas in the 90s when I started watching sumo on Eurosport. You rarely expect it nowadays, which makes it all the more effective.


  10. 3 hours ago, Leoben said:

    For comparison, Takakeisho took 14 tournaments from his makuuchi debut to make Ozeki, and Asanoyama took 16.

    Hoshoryu debuted in Aki 2020 so this will be his 13th tournament in the top division. He could equal Takakeisho if he goes for double digits in this basho and the next one and he gets a JY or better in one of them (unlikely imo), and he has an OK shot at matching Asanoyama. But even if he doesn't, he's still just 23 and it doesn't feel like he's reached his ceiling yet.

    Takakeisho already has over three years as ozeki, two 13-2 yusho from sanyaku rank, and lots of double-digit results. This is already a very good career.

    Asanoyama has one 12-3 yusho from a low rank, a weak ozeki promotion and one decent year as ozeki before the suspension. I don't think he has shown yet whether he will fulfil his potential.

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  11. 5 hours ago, Yarimotsu said:

    Oho's monoii was incredibly close, I was thinking torinaoshi would be in order.

    It was indeed close, but I think they made the right call judging from the replays. First Chiyoshoma's nage, then his body (arm?), and *then* Oho's shoulder followed by nage. Looked clearcut to me in the end.

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  12. 4 minutes ago, Kaninoyama said:

    Don't feel bad. Shodai made fools of us all.

    And yet it was just the same two basho ago, when Shodai was kadoban and started even worse with 1-5, to finish 9-6. :-D


  13. 12-9-11 is too weak for an ozeki promotion, even with the lax standards applied over the last ~10 years. After the 60s, the only rikishi to promoted with just 20 wins over the last two basho is Goeido, at which time he had 14 consecutive basho as sekiwake. W10e would have 3.

    12-9-12 is borderline considering the 9-6 in the middle. If that happens, I don't think it's an automatic promotion.


  14. On 23/05/2022 at 00:14, Reonito said:

    Midorifuji had 4 wins by katasukashi. He is one of only two rikishi to have 5 in one basho (January 2021), and the only sekitori. More mindbogglingly, he has 4 or more wins by this kimarite in a whopping 6 basho, which accounts for fully half of all times this has been done.

    Katasukashi is to Midorifuji what yorikiri or oshidashi is to other rikishi - he wins 25% of the time with it. The closest I could find is 13%.

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