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14 minutes ago, Onibushou said:How many coaches have there been without a single division title or sansho? I doubt he's the first, but with how becoming an oyakata works there can't have been too many.
Must have been lots and lots of them. One that immediately comes to mind is moto-Oikari, Kabutoyama-oyakata who has been prominently figured in the Sumo Prime Time videos on kimarite.
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16 hours ago, Sakura said:I agree. The numbers just represent a mathematical safety line. We've seen plenty of situations where having a demotable record doesn't guarantee demotion and I'm happy to wager that everyone with 1 win required is already safe.
I was really just joking about the fact that it was Shimanoumi, who has escaped near-certain demotion so many times...
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21 hours ago, Sakura said:4-8 (1) Shimanoumi J9 Come on, we all know that Shimanoumi doesn't need another win. It's Shimanoumi we're talking about.
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2 hours ago, Hankegami said:Do you mean that moment near to the ropes, almost to the end of the bout? I cannot see any easing from either of them, honestly. Sure, Bushozan was almost upright with that last push, but he started sidestepping immediately (and at a same time he also clutched Churanoumi's left arm). A big part was played by the tokudawara, which gave more room for Bushozan's feet to side-step. But there wan no pause that I could see (and I played it at the slowest pace to be sure). The sequence was: Bushozan is pushed to the bales > He goes forward for a counter-push but he's pushed back almost upright > He clutches Churanoumi's arm which was still against his chest pushing him, and side-steps > Churanoumi is pulled out balance and Bushozan counter-attacks.
Yes, I might be misjudging it. But I still have the feeling that Churanoumi thought he had it in the bag but didn't finish the job properly, so perhaps he's the one to blame rather than Bushozan.
Speaking of this, did you watch Shiden - Shirokuma in juryo? In that case, Shiden *clearly* gives up and Shirokuma squats to put his opponent down - on the tawara, so the bout isn't technically over. Luckily Shiden didn't "restart" the bout, he stepped out shortly after.
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In the Churanoumi - Bushozan bout, there was a weird sequence where to me it looked like
- Bushozan thought he was losing and started to ease up
- Churanoumi sensed that, thought he was winning and then *he* started to ease up on his pushing
- whereupon Bushozan got back into the bout, side-stepped and eventually won.
I don't know, it felt slightly unsportsmanlike by Bushozan.
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3 hours ago, Asapedroryu said:Yes, he is on the schedulle ofd Day 1 (Ura) and Day 2 (Wakamotoaru)
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18 hours ago, Asashosakari said:The 10-5 promotions from M3e and M4w seem a little crazy, and resulted in a lot of over-promotions and under-demotions. Still, I wouldn't mind a little more generosity these days, when 10-5 at M2e could get you stuck at M1.
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After getting the rope after Hatsu he can afford to go fishing now and then, so I don't think he'll get a 70+ score. Would be cool if he did though.
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Kirishima (O) 1
Kirishima (Y) 2
Hoshoryu (O) 2 (non-consecutive)
K'waka (O) 1 (also non-consecutive) -
He did much better in Kyushu than I thought, but I think he will get a reality check in the next basho being ranked around M1 for the first time (like others before him). Then we'll see if he can adjust, or if the top-rankers adjust to him. I am on the fence.
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3 hours ago, just_some_guy said:Best record 11-5.
So, 11-4 and a playoff loss, just like in Aki 2023.
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On 03/12/2023 at 05:54, Yarimotsu said:Y1 Kotozakura
Nice one - I assume you mean Kotonowaka taking this as his shikona after promotion. Could happen!
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Kirishima Y Hoshoryu O Kotonowaka O Takakeisho
Two yokozuna promotions in the same calendar year would be amazing. Hasn't happened since 1987, I'll stick to one.
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I am amazed that he won two yusho in 2023, and incredibly he is still among the youngest third of the rikishi in makuuchi. But it doesn't feel like he can evolve his sumo further, and now that others around him are starting to get their act together Takakeisho might find it increasingly hard to win another yusho. Let's give him one J, hanging on to the rank.
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He could have a breakout year, but from what we've seen so far it looks like his current limit is elevator rikishi. It's difficult to predict where the elevator stops a year from now, let's say M5. If he reaches the joi he should have ample opportunities to face ozeki and cause one or two upsets.
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I think he will slowly slide down the banzuke, with 2 KK and 4 MK. He should have enough of a cushion to stay in makuuchi during the year.
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I hope that he will bounce back a little during 2024, he should have a few more years in him. Not ozeki again but why not komusubi.
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On 25/11/2023 at 12:14, Seiyashi said:Midorifuji has the arguably easiest opponent of the lot in Churanoumi, the only shinnyūmaku to score his KK.
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
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1 hour ago, Asashosakari said:Daiamami feels very sad now.
Daiamami wants another ~ symbol!
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(The poll currently says "He will go intai (retire) during 2023") -> should be 2024
I think he will give up 7 kinboshi: Abi, Takayasu, Meisei, Tobizaru, Tamawashi, Atamifuji and Shonannoumi. And he will retire during the year.
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4 hours ago, Seiyashi said:[...] and Tenshōhō and Takakentō are not yet considered demoted.
Perhaps the esoteric ~ symbol could be used in their case.
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On 30/10/2023 at 16:22, Reonito said:At least, the tiebreaker should be most bullseyes, not most hits...
The tiebreaker is most correct guesses of the rank, which means that hits > bullseyes. I think that's just as fair.
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I am not a Takakeisho fan by any means, but between a rikishi who has fought all his bouts from the top of the division and a maegashira 15, I will almost always root for the former. And I am not upset by the henka, it's part of sumo.
Very few believed that Takakeisho would be even the best ozeki this time, not to mention yusho winner. He did what the others failed to do so from me, all respect to him.
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