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11 hours ago, Yubinhaad said:
Hoshiazuma says hello.Thanks! I only searched makuuchi and juryo, should have said that.
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12-9-11 is too weak for an ozeki promotion, even with the lax standards applied over the last ~10 years. After the 60s, the only rikishi to promoted with just 20 wins over the last two basho is Goeido, at which time he had 14 consecutive basho as sekiwake. W10e would have 3.
12-9-12 is borderline considering the 9-6 in the middle. If that happens, I don't think it's an automatic promotion.
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On 23/05/2022 at 00:14, Reonito said:Midorifuji had 4 wins by katasukashi. He is one of only two rikishi to have 5 in one basho (January 2021), and the only sekitori. More mindbogglingly, he has 4 or more wins by this kimarite in a whopping 6 basho, which accounts for fully half of all times this has been done.
Katasukashi is to Midorifuji what yorikiri or oshidashi is to other rikishi - he wins 25% of the time with it. The closest I could find is 13%.
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16 minutes ago, Kamitsuumi said:This is probably the closest, being just one win off: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Results.aspx?b=196303&d=15
There is also https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Results.aspx?b=197507&d=15, where none of the rikishi had cleared kachikoshi when the soroibumi was performed, but two of them won their bout to go 8-7.
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When I saw the west side perform the sanyaku soroibumi today - Mitakeumi, Shodai and Abi - I thought that it was an unusually sorry lot. None of them had reached kachikoshi and Abi then went on to lose his bout.
This is the first time* that a "soroibumi group" (i.e. three rikishi fighting the last bouts on senshuraku from either the east or the west side) all finish with a losing record.
*in the modern era
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No entirely unexpected. Takanosho has the tools to become an ozeki from the neck down. Hopefully he can learn from the experience and be better mentally prepared next time.
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2 hours ago, hakutorizakura said:Any sansho prediction/news yet? Hope Sadanoumi and Takanosho will get some.
I also think Takanosho should get a sansho. But if they hand out more, I'd rather see Daieisho got one.
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4 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:...and yet another novelty this basho: Kitanowaka vs. Kinbozan is the most disparate pairing since 1931.
Thank you. I startled when I got to that bout in Sekitoto, didn't expect to see another makushita rikishi.
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Is this Kaisei's final basho? He can still save himself in juryo but it's starting to look dicey.
When he retires, I think Shodai wants to take over the A/B kabu.
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This is only the fourth time in the modern era that the leading result after day 8 is no better than 6-2. The previous three times the basho has been won with 13-2 (twice) and 12-3. The last time was when Shodai managed to win out in the second week to go 13-2. Somehow I very much doubt that anyone will be able to repeat that in this basho. But stranger things have happened, Tamawashi has even done it before. As it stands, I would happily take a 12-3 yusho, 11-4 in makuuchi is really meh.
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3 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:I almost made that same joke, but Kotonowaka père was basically the exact opposite in his sumo - calm to the point of seeming lethargic - so that didn't quite fit the argument I was going for.
True, but I think that the potential is about the same. Plenty of time to prove me wrong, of course.
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12 hours ago, Asashosakari said:Kotonowaka...I can't quite put my finger on what kind of trajectory I expect for him, but it's not Kisenosato. He doesn't have Kise's calm, composed approach to sumo at all, and I don't really see him develop something like that. I'm not even sure that I would support the notion that there's ozeki caliber talent there. I'm kind of getting Kokkai/Tamawashi vibes instead, somebody who will be able to hang with the joi (eventually) but who will have to do it with a bit of a brawler style that will always be at risk of getting outwrestled by more technically adept opponents. And I don't really feel that Kotonowaka will be developing an imposing enough physique that could take that kind of style to ozeki.
I expect Kotonowaka.
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5 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:Now we hope that he will be a marginally more successful ozeki than his sekiwake record indicates. He fully deserves his promotion, but the work to live up to the rank only starts here.
I'd say that his record over the last two years is already ozeki level. If he can be a yusho-challenging ozeki: good, but not all ozeki have to be that.
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3 minutes ago, WAKATAKE said:According to NHK reports, Terunofuji injured his calf in the Meisei match
Colour me unsurprised.
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Shodai - Chiyoshoma was a surprisingly good meaningless bout.
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Takanosho saves his place in sanyaku after a dismal basho.
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Ishiura gives the finger to the sansho committee by easily disposing of M3e Tamawashi and finishing 11-4.
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2 minutes ago, Tigerboy1966 said:Maybe he thought he needed one more win for safety, although 5 wins at M10 looks enough to me.
Sure, but I have seldom seen a rikishi so not ready to get back into the dohyo.
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What was the point with Myogiryu's return for two final bouts?
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1 minute ago, Jakusotsu said:Works here.
Yes, works again.
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ISP is down for me with "Server Error in '/' Application." etc.
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M11e Sadanoumi (7-7) M18e Oho (7-7) M15w Tochinoshin (7-7) M2w Ichinojo (7-7) M2e Ura (7-7) M13e Chiyomaru (7-7)
Bench Sumo torikumi makers wouldn't have done it better... Tough matchups for the low-rankers!
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I will be rooting for Mitakeumi to win outright tomorrow, for several reasons: a) it would be a slam-dunk ozeki promotion, b) the yusho would be won by someone in the joi meaning no "easy" schedule, c) the winning result would be 13-2 which I regard as the hallmark of a quality yusho.
That said, if it becames a three-way playoff it will involve Terunofuji, Mitakeumi and Abi/Kotonowaka. For Terunofuji to win he must beat Mitakeumi twice, plus Abi (whom he lost to) or Kotonowaka. For Mitakeumi to win a playoff, he must beat Terunofuji (whom he has just lost to), plus Abi (again) or Kotonowaka. And for Abi or Kotonowaka to get to playoff and win, they must beat all the other three. In either case the yusho will be deserved, even if it's Kotonowaka. I will however be rooting hard against the latter due to his low rank and generally unimpressive sumo, despite 11-3.
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3 hours ago, Kurowashi said:2 Kadoban Ozeki, 1 Sekiwake and both Komosubi MK, this is the worst sanyaku since i‘m into sumo, iirc
2 KK from the entire sanyaku is indeed a record low in the modern era, tied with Hatsu basho 2020 when Tokushoryu won the cup. Of course, it helps that the number of sanyaku rikishi is also at an all-time low (7).
But these things tend to even out in the long run. Less sanyaku means that it is easier to break into the top ranks, and of course under-performing sanyaku will be replaced. In Haru 2021 we had the opposite situation, with 7 out of 9 sanyaku rikishi getting KK including all komusubi and sekiwake, which made it very difficult to get promoted to komusubi.
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Nagoya 2022
in Honbasho Talk
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And yet it was just the same two basho ago, when Shodai was kadoban and started even worse with 1-5, to finish 9-6.