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  1. Basho Talk - Aki 2017 (SPOILERS)

    Yes you probably were the only one. Whether many of us though he would go kyujo is another matter...
  2. Basho Talk - Aki 2017 (SPOILERS)

    I too saw many contenders (false pretenders even) come and go in the 22 years I have been following Sumo and the last rikishi I could see would become truly great from quite early on was Hakuho. I'm definitely not yet saying Onosho is as promising as Hakuho was in about 2004 when he had just entered Makuuchi. Many of us could already see by then that Hak was highly likely to become at least an Ozeki. It's much too early to make such bold statements about Onosho. We need to wait at least 1 or 2 more basho before we will know his true potential and he still has a lot to prove this basho and the next. What I am seeing (and my sister is the one who spotted this first early on 2 basho ago when Onosho made his Makuuchi debut) is that he seems to have a certain something ("je ne c'est quoi") that most rikishi of his age lack. I would call it "ring sense". During his matches it almost seems like his reactions are just that tiny bit quicker than most, that's he watching the other rikishi moving in slow motion and still has ample time to react to whatever move his opponents make against him. His main problem at this point is probably his small stature, being only 176 cm tall, but so far he's coping well with that. So there! If I haven's thoroughly jinxed him now he definitely IS the real deal!
  3. Basho Talk - Aki 2017 (SPOILERS)

    I fully agree. At this point I think the yusho is between Onosho, Goeido and Kotoshogiku. If Goeido wins he would become the favorite (despite him relying too much on henka so far). If Onosho wins I truly believe he can go all the way and is unlikely to falter in the second half of the basho. Sure, he may lose 1, 2 or even 3 bouts and is unlikely to get a zensho yusho, but he really doesn't strike me as someone who will succumb to pressure. So -for now at least- I am fully on the Onosho bandwagon. In fact I think I may be the bandwagon's driver! I put Onosho in my 4-point slot today in Bench Sumo and that got me the win. I also picked him to beat Harumafuji in Sekitori-Toto.
  4. Basho Talk - Aki 2017 (SPOILERS)

    Yes, in the modern era (since the yusho system was established in June 1909) it happened 3 times that a rikishi won the yusho in only their 3rd Makuuchi basho or even before. In fact at Natsu 1914 Ryogoku won the yusho in his very first Makuuchi basho ranked at Maegashira 14 East! At Haru 1922 Tsurugahama won the yusho in his 3rd Makuuchi basho ranked at Maegashira 4 East. At Natsu 1961 Sadanoyama (later the 50th Yokozuna) won the yusho in his 3rd Makuuchi basho ranked at Maegashira 13 West (you could even say it was actually his 2nd active Makuuchi basho, as he was kyujo (0-0-15) the basho before that.
  5. Basho Talk - Aki 2017 (SPOILERS)

    The lowest ranked winner of the Makuuchi yusho was Dewaminato who won the Haru 1939 yusho while ranked at Maegashira 17 with a 13-0 zenso yusho. Needless to say that record cannot be broken...
  6. Basho Talk - Aki 2017 (SPOILERS)

    I somehow saw the upset coming. Both the fact that Kotoshogiku is looking better than recently and Harumafuji is not looking genki at all made me a firm believer that bumpy would pull off the upset today, though I obviously did not see the way the bout (or lack thereof) would go coming... I was 1 of only 3 players in Bench Sumo who put Harumafuji on the bench and also picked Kotoshogiku to win the bout in ISP and Sekitori-Toto.... Go Onosho and Kotoshogiku!
  7. The information thread on Akebono's current illness is here: http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/topic/34856-akebono-gravely-ill-activities-thread/
  8. My sister just pointed this article in the Japan Times out to me (published earlier today): http://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2017/07/27/sumo/harumafuji-may-need-undergo-elbow-surgery/#.WXpzQ2fKh_k Harumafuji (left) has inflammation in his left elbow that may require surgery. | KYODO Sumo Harumafuji may need to undergo elbow surgery Kyodo Yokozuna Harumafuji may require left elbow surgery, a move which would not only rule him out of the summer regional tour beginning this weekend, but also the Autumn Grand Sumo Tournament in September, his stablemaster said Thursday. “He has inflammation in his left elbow and can’t extend it,” stablemaster Isegahama said. Harumafuji is set to miss part of the regional tour but could join up (later on) “depending on how it heals,” Isegahama said. Isegahama, however, also spoke about the possibility of an operation and said Harumafuji “would not make it in time” for the Autumn Basho starting on Sept. 10 in Tokyo should he have to go under the knife. Isegahama was speaking a day after Japan Sumo Association deputy director Tamanoi said three of the four current yokozuna would miss part or all of the summer regional tour. Kisenosato and Kakuryu are both carrying ankle injuries that forced them to withdraw from the Nagoya Grand Sumo Tournament. Harumafuji was the only yokozuna other than title winner Hakuho to compete in all 15 days of the Nagoya Basho that wrapped up on Sunday. Kisenosato has now pulled out of two straight grand tournaments. In May, a lingering upper-arm injury forced him out. This month, Kisenosato hurt an ankle while not fully recovered from the arm injury suffered in March. His stable master Tagonoura on Wednesday said fans may be able to see the Japan-born grand champion in action if he is able to speed up his recovery. “He has to get his body into top shape if he wants to take part in the tour. It all depends on how things go,” Tagonoura said. The summer edition of sumo’s regional tour, which includes ring-entering ceremonies, matches and sumo-related exhibitions around a sumo ring, starts in Gifu on Sunday and ends Aug. 27 in Tokyo, the 21st stop. Isegahama also said Thursday that Mongolian ozeki Terunofuji is expected to sit out the entire tour to focus on getting fit in time for the Autumn meet. Terunofuji has not recovered as well as expected from left knee surgery he had after May’s Summer Grand Sumo Tournament. He pulled out midway through the Nagoya meet and is currently hospitalized. At the Autumn Basho, Terunofuji will be fighting with his rank on the line as a kadoban ozeki for the fifth time in his career. Kind regards, Jan de Veen aka "Chijanofuji"
  9. You need to get weighed..

    Yes, it never ceased to exist. It just became hard to obtain for those of us (including me) who do not live in Japan... Apparently it is still sold at the Kokugikan during the basho and theoretically (according to the inside of the magazine itself) it is even possible to subscribe in and outside of Japan "by sending cash by registered mail (dollars or yen) or by international postal money orders. This saves time and money both for Sumo World and subscribers".. yeah right... I (and many other former subscribers outside of Japan who had a subscription in the past and then suddenly stopped receiving issues) am not going down that road with Clyde again, though...
  10. You need to get weighed..

    Hi Doitsuyama and all, Using 3 sources I managed to construct a complete 2016 and 2017 height/weight data set for all the current Makuuchi and Juryo rikishi. The 2017 data is from the latest weigh-in on 2 May 2017 as listed on the Nihon Sumo Kyokai Grand Sumo Home Page from every rikishi's individual page The 2016 data is from the official Sumo basho program of the basho that just finished (Natsu 2017), but which was clearly printed before the latest weigh-in and still contained the 2016 weigh-in information for the rikishi. I double-checked this 2016 data with that from the January 2017 issue of Sumo World Magazine (which was printed in late 2016/early 2017 but in any case before the 2017 Hatsu Basho). In nearly all cases the height/weight info from these 2 sources matched exactly. In only 2 cases was there a discrepancy, one (Aoyama) was clearly a typo on the part of Sumo World magazine (they listed him at 160 kg instead of 190), the other (Okinoumi) was a case where Sumo World magazine had apparently used old 2015 data (forgot to update his data) as they had him at 154 kg, whereas the Sumo Basho program had him at 158kg. In both cases I obviously went with the more reliable source (Sumo basho program). http://www.chijanofuji.com/Rikishi-H-W-2016-2017.html Rnk Shikona 2016/11 2017/5 weight change Y1E Kisenosato 187 cm 175 kg 187 cm 184 kg +9 kg Y1W Kakuryu 186 cm 156 kg 186 cm 157 kg -1 kg Y2E Harumafuji 186 cm 137 kg 186 cm 137 kg same Y2W Hakuho 192 cm 156 kg 192 cm 160 kg +4 kg O1E Terunofuji 192 cm 185 kg 192 cm 187 kg +2 kg O1W Goeido 183 cm 160 kg 183 cm 161 kg +1 kg S1E Tamawashi 189 cm 168 kg 189 cm 172 kg +4 kg S1W Takayasu 186 cm 179 kg 186 cm 174 kg -5 kg S2E Kotoshogiku 180 cm 180 kg 180 cm 178 kg -2 kg K1E Mitakeumi 178 cm 158 kg 180 cm 160 kg +2 kg K1W Yoshikaze 176 cm 145 kg 177 cm 145 kg same (height +1cm) M1E Chiyonokuni 182 cm 140 kg 182 cm 140 kg same M1W Endo 184 cm 154 kg 184 cm 152 kg -2 kg M2E Okinoumi 191 cm 158 kg 191 cm 165 kg +7 kg M2W Chiyoshoma 183 cm 132 kg 185 cm 132 kg same (height +2 cm) M3E Daieisho 181 cm 154 kg 181 cm 148 kg -6 kg M3W Aoiyama 191 cm 190 kg 191 cm 195 kg +5 kg M4E Tochiozan 188 cm 158 kg 188 cm 156 kg -2 kg M4W Takarafuji 186 cm 170 kg 185 cm 171 kg +1 kg M5E Takanoiwa 181 cm 148 kg 181 cm 153 kg +5 kg M5W Shodai 183 cm 163 kg 184 cm 162 kg -1 kg M6E Takekaze 171 cm 150 kg 171 cm 150 kg same M6W Ikioi 195 cm 165 kg 195 cm 167 kg +2 kg M7E Hokutofuji 183 cm 160 kg 183 cm 163 kg +3 kg M7W Takakeisho 173 cm 169 kg 174 cm 169 kg same (height +1 cm) M8E Shohozan 177 cm 138 kg 177 cm 141 kg +3 kg M8W Sokokurai 185 cm 146 kg 185 cm 145 kg -1 kg M9E Ichinojo 193 cm 212 kg 193 cm 197 kg -15 kg M9W Kagayaki 193 cm 163 kg 193 cm 162 kg -1 kg M10E Tochinoshin 191 cm 170 kg 191 cm 175 kg +5 kg M10W Ura 173 cm 128 kg 174 cm 137 kg +9 kg M11E Arawashi 185 cm 140 kg 185 cm 136 kg -4 kg M11W Ishiura 173 cm 114 kg 173 cm 118 kg +4 kg M12E Tokushoryu 180 cm 180 kg 181 cm 180 kg same (height +1 cm) M12W Kotoyuki 176 cm 169 kg 176 cm 178 kg +9 kg M13E Toyohibiki 185 cm 184 kg 185 cm 187 kg +3 kg M13W Daishomaru 173 cm 151 kg 174 cm 159 kg +8 kg M14E Onosho 176 cm 159 kg 176 cm 155 kg -4 kg M14W Chiyotairyu 181 cm 177 kg 181 cm 177 kg same M15E Myogiryu 187 cm 152 kg 187 cm 153 kg +1 kg M15W Kaisei 195 cm 197 kg 195 cm 191 kg -6 kg M16E Yutakayama 185 cm 177 kg 185 cm 183 kg +6 kg J1E Sadanoumi 183 cm 145 kg 183 cm 146 kg +1 kg J1W Osunaarashi 188 cm 152 kg 188 cm 150 kg -2 kg J2E Chiyomaru 179 cm 186 kg 179 cm 189 kg +3 kg J2W Kyokushuho 190 cm 154 kg 190 cm 150 kg -4 kg J3E Gagamaru 187 cm 199 kg 187 cm 199 kg same J3W Kyokutaisei 184 cm 142 kg 184 cm 145 kg +3 kg J4E Nishikigi 185 cm 170 kg 185 cm 173 kg +3 kg J4W Yamaguchi 182 cm 153 kg 184 cm 158 kg +5 kg J5E Hidenoumi 185 cm 156 kg 185 cm 160 kg +4 kg J5W Azumaryu 191 cm 156 kg 191 cm 159 kg +3 kg J6E Chiyoo 179 cm 153 kg 179 cm 155 kg +2 kg J6W Tsurugisho 183 cm 170 kg 183 cm 170 kg same J7E Asanoyama 189 cm 159 kg 189 cm 162 kg +3 kg J7W Daiamami 185 cm 180 kg 185 cm 181 kg +1 kg J8E Seiro 186 cm 140 kg 185 cm 141 kg +1 kg J8W Aminishiki 184 cm 142 kg 184 cm 142 kg same J9E Chiyootori 179 cm 179 kg 179 cm 174 kg -5 kg J9W Kotoeko 177 cm 132 kg 177 cm 136 kg +4 kg J10E Rikishin 190 cm 156 kg 190 cm 160 kg +4 kg J10W Amakaze 185 cm 202 kg 185 cm 208 kg +6 kg J11E Terutsuyoshi 168 cm 116 kg 168 cm 115 kg -1 kg J11W Satoyama 175 cm 121 kg 175 cm 123 kg +2 kg J12E Ryuden 189 cm 148 kg 189 cm 150 kg +2 kg J12W Kitataiki 184 cm 150 kg 184 cm 148 kg -2 kg J13E Homarefuji 180 cm 165 kg 180 cm 166 kg +1 kg J13W Asahisho 174 cm 138 kg 175 cm 138 kg same (height +1 cm) J14E Meisei 180 cm 140 kg 180 cm 141 kg +1 kg J14W Takagenji 191 cm 152 kg 191 cm 160 kg +8 kg Ms4W Amuru 191 cm 133 kg ? ? Ms8W Wakanoshima 180 cm 150 kg ? ?
  11. BASHO TALK -- Natsu 2017 -- SPOILERS

    I'd go even further than that... In his entire 13-year career in Makuuchi there has been only one occasion in which Hakuho did not at least get a Jun-Yusho after starting 8-0! That one time was his debut basho as a Yokozuna (Nagoya 2007) when he finished 11-4 after a 9-0 start... FWIW - My current opinion is that this is Harumafuji's basho to lose. He is winning far more convincingly than Hakuho. Hakuho (like Terunofuji) does appear (to me at least) to be gaining more confidence with every win though...
  12. BASHO TALK -- Natsu 2017 -- SPOILERS

    I assume that if you have indeed seen something like that it is highly likely to be someone's idea of a joke based on the fact that Hakuho sometimes used to lead with his elbows to the face of his opponents after the tachi-ai. It's highly unlikely actual X-rays of a medical examination of anyone - let alone rikishi in Ozumo would be released to the media/general public...
  13. Trivia bits

    Well spotted! If Kotokamatani manages to become a sekitori within 1 or 2 years its bound to happen, though he will probably have to make it to Makuuchi for it to actually come to pass. He could theoretically face Toyonoshima soon (both are currently in Makushita after all), but the odds are not that high and Toyo may retire soon... And I doubt that Aminishiki will manage to hang on for 2 more years before he retires (unless he somehow manages to get back to Makuuchi first).
  14. Trivia bits

    I checked and as expected nobody faced both Tochiazuma's. Interestingly the first Tochiazuma faced 2 Yutakayama's (who were not related to each other and also not related to the current shin-nyumaku Yutakayama (former Oyanagi)), two Daigo's (also not related), and two Kongo's (also not related), and on top of that both Tochiazuma's faced one of the Takanohana's (who were father and son), so the father Tochiazuma faced the father Takanohana, while the son Tochiazuma faced the son Takanohana.... so close, but no cigar!
  15. Will we have a new Ozeki by the end of 2017?

    I sincerely hope you are right! I truly hope Ichinojo gets back to displaying the kind of Sumo we saw him do during hist spectacular shin-nyumaku basho (Aki 2014) when he had a 13-2 record at M10E, with a Jun-Yusho, was awarded the Shukunsho, got a kinboshi against Kakuryu, also defeated Kisenosato, and Goeido and was only put in his place by Hakuho on day 14! Ichinojo still needed to mature his belt-sumo technique at that point but showed enormous promise and wasn't afraid of anyone. Everybody was talking about him as the next Ozeki at that moment in time! His next 4 basho were also pretty good. He was holding his own with the Sanyaku rikishi while being ranked between Sekiwake and Maegashira 1. But starting with the 2015 Nagoya basho where he went 4-11 at Sekiwake 1 West we have only seen occasional glimpses of his former brilliance. He seemed to give up too soon during many of his bouts. If you ask me he gained way too much weight too fast and that caused the injuries that have plagued him ever since. Now that he has lost weight (down to 197 kg at the last weigh-in reported here on May 2), there is hope for a marked improvement, but how are his injuries? And what is his level of confidence? Last basho was not very hopeful, so I need to see evidence of marked improvement before I'm jumping on the Ichinojo Yusho and or Ozeki bandwagon again...