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#26 Doitsuyama

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Posted 30 April 2003 - 10:03

These patterns are called kamon.

D'oh! As soon as I see kamon written, I realize I've been mixing two words again. Kamon are the (two?) round symbols woven onto a sekitori's montsuki, right? Let's see if I can find an image. (I managed to turn this back to sumo, didn't I? :-) )

I didn't know all these words before, but now I know them in kanji too! Well, my (exceptionally good) new electronic Japanese-German dictionary knows montsuki (t) and translates it as "garment with family crest" (well, in German obviously), so you're correct. (Sign of approval) Of course :-) the kanji for mon is the same as the mon in kamon (Ɩ).

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Posted 30 April 2003 - 10:34

Let's see if I can find an image.

I guess this black coat is montsuki and the white emblems are kamon. I've understood not only sekitori wear them but they are the festive coats of men in general. Much like dark suit on Western men.

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Posted 30 April 2003 - 15:00

festive coats of men in general. Much like dark suit on Western men


What is, then, the Japanese equivalent for a man's tuxedo?

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Posted 30 April 2003 - 21:45

What is, then, the Japanese equivalent for a man's tuxedo?

Didn't come to think of that. How often tuxedo is used anyway? In my native Finland one sees it (very) rarely and even then a dark suit is always a viable option. I believe in many other countries these customs vary slightly.

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Posted 03 May 2003 - 16:28

Just wanted to say - lovely sig, Kotoseiya-zeki... (Sign of approval)
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Posted 03 May 2003 - 17:28

Just wanted to say - lovely sig, Kotoseiya-zeki... (Sign of approval)

Not nearly as lovely one as this.

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Posted 04 May 2003 - 07:02

Not nearly as lovely one as this.

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(Heart) :-) (Shaking head...) :-P
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#33 Yoavoshimaru

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Posted 06 May 2003 - 13:52

I apologize for my lack of knowledge, here, but after searching a bit I cound't find what flag Manekineko-zeki is finding so lovely above... What flag is that?

In my search, I checked of course the Finnish and Swedish flags, even though I knew them already, and stumbled on this picture:

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Posted 06 May 2003 - 19:55

To give you a hint: Look for the location in Manekineko's profile...

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Posted 06 May 2003 - 21:48

Or back click on the image of the flag with your mouse and go to "Save picture as". The name of the country comes up there.
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Posted 06 May 2003 - 22:21

Here, have some flags. I do have more if needed.

CanadaEnglandFranceGermanyHungary
IsraelJapanLiechtensteinNetherlandsPhilippines
RussiaSpainSwedenUnited KingdomUnited States

Edited by Kotoseiya Yuichi, 06 May 2003 - 22:24.

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Posted 07 May 2003 - 06:58

And here is Futeno's new KM:
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#38 Yoavoshimaru

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Posted 07 May 2003 - 14:15

Ahh - Croatia! Cool.

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Posted 27 October 2003 - 10:32

I'll dig up a thread dormant for six months again against my own recommendations as these kesho spottings might as well be kept inside a single thread.

Still no kesho images of Dewanofuji, Masutsuyoshi, Futeno, Kaido, Kokkai, Wakatoba & Kakizoe. (In a state of confusion...)

But Iwakiyama has a new kesho:

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Toyozakura follows his brother to makuuchi with a stylish kesho:

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Giant Towanoyama has now also a proper image of him on kyokai's server:

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Posted 27 October 2003 - 14:01

Still no kesho images of Dewanofuji, Masutsuyoshi, Futeno, Kaido, Kokkai, Wakatoba & Kakizoe. (Shaking head...)

That's pretty lame. We are not exactly spoiled by the NSK site anyways, but one would think that they'd manage to put up a decent kesho shot AT LEAST after the rikishi in question has been a sekitori twice in a row, and MOST CERTAINLY for all the guys mentioned above, who are obviously sekitori to stay, or at least more than worthy of being depicted as such. (Sign of disapproval)
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Posted 27 October 2003 - 14:11

Still no kesho images of Dewanofuji, Masutsuyoshi, Futeno, Kaido, Kokkai, Wakatoba & Kakizoe. (Shaking head...)

That's pretty lame. We are not exactly spoiled by the NSK site anyways, but one would think that they'd manage to put up a decent kesho shot AT LEAST after the rikishi in question has been a sekitori twice in a row, and MOST CERTAINLY for all the guys mentioned above, who are obviously sekitori to stay, or at least more than worthy of being depicted as such. (Sign of disapproval)

Yeah. Masutsuyoshi's picture is from 1998 or so...

The one of Towanoyama above though actually came up already when he entered Makunouchi. The NSK have usually managed to get a kesho-mawashi picture at least of the Makunouchi rikishi. It's a pity they haven't noticed Wakatoba and Kakizoe yet (Shaking head...)

Edited by Yubiquitoyama, 27 October 2003 - 14:12.

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Posted 27 October 2003 - 16:34

Yeah. Masutsuyoshi's picture is from 1998 or so...

To be fair, Masutsuyoshi hasn't exactly been a Juryo regular yet, although they really should have gotten up a kesho image for him during his 5-basho stretch back in 2001. BTW, after we so brilliantly (cough, cough) predicted his big MK in Aki, I'm kinda curious to see what he'll do this time. (Shaking head...)

Edited by Asashosakari, 27 October 2003 - 16:34.


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Posted 28 October 2003 - 21:59

I like Toyozakura's picture. Very colorful (Sign of approval)

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Posted 29 October 2003 - 14:25

Yeah. Masutsuyoshi's picture is from 1998 or so...

To be fair, Masutsuyoshi hasn't exactly been a Juryo regular yet, although they really should have gotten up a kesho image for him during his 5-basho stretch back in 2001. BTW, after we so brilliantly (cough, cough) predicted his big MK in Aki, I'm kinda curious to see what he'll do this time. (Neener, neener...)

Frankly I don't really care whether a rikishi is a sekitori regular or not.... I think it is such a momentous occasion for most of these guys to become sekitori (considering the huge gap in status) that they should be afforded the proper treatment on the page. I know if I was a toriteki dweller who maybe makes it to Juryo just once, I would be peeved if my once-in-a-lifetime achievement would be dissed by the NSK web site by putting my picture up without kesho. : (Depressed...) (In a bad mood...)

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Posted 30 October 2003 - 17:18

You can find a brand-new kesho mawashi picture of Kakizoe on the NSK site now. Here it is:

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Posted 30 October 2003 - 18:17

You can find a brand-new kesho mawashi picture of Kakizoe on the NSK site now. Here it is:

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Cheesy design, but at least his picture is up (In a state of confusion...)

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Posted 30 October 2003 - 20:50

(In a state of confusion...) Oh, I like his kesho-mawashi!

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 14:25

Time once again to revive this thread, seeing as the Kyokai has added two new kesho images along with the Hatsu banzuke. (Plus the shin-juryo images, of course, including Roho doing his best to stare like a psychotic mass murderer (Laughing...) - see here.)

Anyway, up first on the catwalk, we have Tamanoshima celebrating his Sekiwake debut in a stylish blue and (I guess) silver kesho:

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And the other lucky recipient of a kesho image is Kokkai, who IMNSHO really shouldn't have picked a white kesho considering he's sporting a rather bright skin colour in the picture too. (Punk rocker...) Nice coat-of-arms on the kesho itself though:

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And maybe they'll get up a kesho picture for Wakatoba one of these days, too... (Applauding...)

Edit January 19th: Fixed the links to point to the new NSK site.

Edited by Asashosakari, 19 January 2004 - 00:29.


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Posted 24 December 2003 - 17:22

And the other lucky recipient of a kesho image is Kokkai, who IMNSHO really shouldn't have picked a white kesho considering he's sporting a rather bright skin colour in the picture too.  (Punk rocker...) Nice coat-of-arms on the kesho itself though:

What kesho?

#50 Asashosakari

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 19:22

What kesho?

I'm confused...you don't see the picture? Or did you mean something else? (Punk rocker...)




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