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#501 Profomisakari

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 17:05

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 17:40

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 21:06

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 21:08

Day 15:

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 21:45

Day 15:

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 23:18

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 00:09

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:29

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:47

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 02:24

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 02:52

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 04:46

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I'm a sucker for punishment..

"In Harry potter the philosophers stone,Harry found a mirror which when he looked at it he saw the one thing he 'desired more than anything else......'
My friend Wayne has been doing that for 48 years but it hasn't helped him any."  Paul(Fujisan)Sharp
 
New observation I thought was funny but Wayne didn't......
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My friend Dave has a brain like a computer,it never works when you really need it to......Paul(Fujisan)Sharp

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As for Jason and his wife Nicki here is the first verse i have written to a song I wrote in their honour....

 

"I married a woman,as crazy as can be,she's 3 parts vampire,2 parts chimpanze,i met her in the park she was swinging from the trees,I thought SHE was crazy,until I met her family......."


#513 Jakusotsu

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 09:54

Final results:

11-4   (6)  Kintamayama         Tochinoshin 4-10 W       Tamaasuka 9-5 L          1 (0)
10-5   (-3) Asashosakari        Tochinoshin 4-10 W       Miyabiyama 8-6 L         1 (-1)
10-5   (-10)Randomitsuki        Myogiryu 6-8 W           Kitataiki 9-5 L          1 (-4)
8-7    (26) Jakusotsu           Sagatsukasa 6-8 L        Takamisakari 8-6 L       0 (3)
8-6-1  (25) shimodahito         Asasekiryu 4-10 W        Aran 9-5 L               1 (6)
8-7    (1)  Doitsuyama          Myogiryu 6-8 W           Goeido 11-3 W            0 (-3)
8-7    (-8) Pandaazuma          Tochinoshin 4-10 W       Shotenro 9-5 L           1 (1)
7-8    (-2) Kotoviki            Wakakoyu 6-8 W           Takayasu 9-5 W           0 (-1)
6-8-1  (8)  Ganzohnesushi       Tochinoshin 4-10 W       Goeido 11-3 W            0 (1)
6-9    (-6) Profomisakari       Tochinoshin 4-10 W       Goeido 11-3 W            0 (1)
6-8-1  (-7) Achiyama            Tochinoshin 4-10 W       Tamaasuka 9-5 L          1 (0)
6-9    (-11)Flohru              Nionoumi 5-9 W           Oiwato 10-4 L            1 (-2)
5-10   (29) Gernobono           Sotairyu 5-9 W           Aran 9-5 L               1 (6)
5-10   (26) Vikanohara          Aminishiki 6-8 W         Takamisakari 8-6 L       1 (6)
5-10   (21) kuroimori           Aminishiki 6-8 W         Chiyotairyu 10-4 W       0 (3)
5-9-1  (14) Anjoboshi           Tochinowaka 5-9 L        Aran 9-5 L               0 (3)
5-9-1  (-3) Fuseigou            Myogiryu 6-8 W           Kitataiki 9-5 L          1 (-4)
5-10   (-3) Andonishiki         Kokkai 4-10 L            Bushuyama 8-6 L          0 (-1)
5-10   (-6) Jejima              Takarafuji 6-8 L         Baruto 10-4 L            0 (-2)
4-11   (1)  Holleshoryu         Kyokutenho 5-9 L         Goeido 11-3 W            0 (0)
4-10-1 (-3) Takanorappa         Tochinoshin 4-10 W       Baruto 10-4 L            1 (-1)
4-11   (-12)Fujisan             Tochinoshin 4-10 W       Baruto 10-4 L            1 (-1)
3-11-1 (20) mischashimaru                                                         ()
3-11-1 (-4) Heikotoriki         Kyokutenho 5-9 L         Goeido 11-3 W            0 (0)
3-12   (-8) Frinkanohana        Myogiryu 6-8 W           Kisenosato 9-5 L         1 (-2)
2-13   (-1) ronnie              Kotoyuki 6-8 L           Oiwato 10-4 L            0 (-1)
2-3-10 (-3) Zenjimoto                                                             ()
1-3-11 (3)  Gusoyama                                                              ()


The leader won the yusho in style, collecting another shiroboshi on Senshuraku.
Yusho winner of the test run basho is Kintamayama - congratulations!
Jun-Yusho go to Asashosakari and Randomitsuki.

There are substantially more MK than KK, so there seems to be no need to add further picking restrictions.


Kantosho               Ginosho                  Shukunsho
Gernobono       29     Asashosakari   12-12     shimodahito     9
Vikanohara      26     Achiyama         9-9     Asashosakari    8
Jakusotsu       26     Flohru           9-9     Gernobono       7
shimodahito     25     Vikanohara       9-9     ronnie          5
kuroimori       21     Andonishiki      8-8     Andonishiki     5
mischashimaru   20     Frinkanohana     8-8     Vikanohara      4
Anjoboshi       14     Kintamayama    13-12     Takanorappa     4
Ganzohnesushi    8     Doitsuyama     12-11     mischashimaru   4
Kintamayama      6     Kotoviki       10-11     Jakusotsu       4
Gusoyama         3     shimodahito    10-11     Anjoboshi       4
Doitsuyama       1     Profomisakari   9-10     kuroimori       3
Holleshoryu      1     Gernobono        9-8     Kotoviki        3
ronnie          -1     Fujisan          8-9     Frinkanohana    2
Kotoviki        -2     kuroimori        8-9     Pandaazuma      2
Zenjimoto       -3     mischashimaru    6-7     Holleshoryu     2
Andonishiki     -3     Gusoyama         2-3     Gusoyama        2
Takanorappa     -3     Takanorappa      9-7     Jejima          2
Fuseigou        -3     Holleshoryu      7-9     Flohru          1
Asashosakari    -3     Heikotoriki      7-5     Kintamayama     1
Heikotoriki     -4     ronnie           5-7     Ganzohnesushi   1
Jejima          -6     Zenjimoto        2-4     Heikotoriki     1
Profomisakari   -6     Randomitsuki   11-14     Doitsuyama      1
Achiyama        -7     Jakusotsu       9-12     Randomitsuki    1
Frinkanohana    -8     Jejima          7-10     Zenjimoto       0
Pandaazuma      -8     Fuseigou        12-7     Profomisakari   0
Randomitsuki   -10     Ganzohnesushi   7-12     Achiyama        0
Flohru         -11     Anjoboshi       5-10     Fuseigou        0
Fujisan        -12     Pandaazuma      8-14     Fujisan         0


It might look a bit selfish, but I decided to make KK necessary for winning a sansho (like in most other games). The winners are:
Kantosho: Jakusotsu
Ginosho: Asashosakari
Shukunsho: shimodahito

To repeat the sansho rules again from a few pages above:
Kantosho for the most accumulated tie-breaker points (as shown in brackets in the results and torikumi).
Ginosho for the best balance of correct winner picks versus correct loser picks (red and green in the torikumi).
Shukunsho for the highest number of unique successful picks (marked golden in the results).

Thank you all for participating in the test run! Judging by the responses it looks like the game is a success (even with Kotoviki's growing hate B-) ), and fortunately Doitsuyama has already offered to make it automated.

I know, I promised to do a poll about the name, but while WiLLoW (the only other suggestion so far) is kinda cute, I like TTT better as an acronym, so with Rijicho's powers I want to stick with Turn The Tide.

There won't be a banzuke after the test run, but these results will carry over for when we start properly - even Gusoyama will have an advantage over the new players.

Thanks again - it turned out better than I dared to imagine.
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#514 Achiyama

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 19:29

I understand that the owner of the game has the right to chose the name, but why did you ask, then, for new alternatives?

It's not that I suggested WiLLoW, but the name gives you exactly the essence of the game (Winning Losers Losing Winners) and it is much more melodic, I think.

And you can turn to the players who play the game as WiLLoWers, while TTTers sounds like stuttering.

Edited by Achiyama, 25 March 2012 - 19:30.


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Posted 25 March 2012 - 20:03

I disagree with Kintamayama's suggestion that the game should have another name. And I find "Turn the Tides" perfectly suitable.

Heheh, and it reminds me of my very very first Bench comment, made at a time when I still thought that game was about winning. It was
"TTTTT - Time To Turn The Tides".

Oh, and way off-topic:
Why is Chaingang called Chaingang?
What is a Roto in RotoSumo?
Where is the paper in Paper Oyakata Game?
What does the Hoshitori Game and UDH have to do with hoshitori?
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#516 Kintamayama

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 20:27

Thank you all for participating in the test run! Judging by the responses it looks like the game is a success (even with Kotoviki's growing hate B-) ), and fortunately Doitsuyama has already offered to make it automated.
I know, I promised to do a poll about the name, but while WiLLoW (the only other suggestion so far) is kinda cute, I like TTT better as an acronym, so with Rijicho's powers I want to stick with Turn The Tide.

Excellent news regarding the automation. TTT is fine with me too. This one will be fun to play as well.

What do you get when you cross an insomniac, an agnostic and a dyslexic?

A guy who is up all night arguing with himself over whether or not there is a dog.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 20:29

Oh, and way off-topic:
Why is Chaingang called Chaingang?

Because you have to have a chain of wins to go on. The gang is us. I can't think of a better name on earth for this game. I think it is epic.

What do you get when you cross an insomniac, an agnostic and a dyslexic?

A guy who is up all night arguing with himself over whether or not there is a dog.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:01

Thanks a lot, Jakusotsu-san! The only negative aspect I can find is the fact that it took years until you finally decided to present this brilliant idea to a bigger audience. I was convinced already some three or four years ago that this game will be great fun and a success....

There is some hope that enough players will be attracted soon and this one becomes part of SB games.

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#519 Asashosakari

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 14:13

Assuming the next edition will be an official one and with full automation, and thus likely featuring a lot more players, many of whom wouldn't even have known of the test run, I'm not sure the test basho should count for the banzuke. Seems like stacking the deck in favour of Sumoforum members.

Edited by Asashosakari, 26 March 2012 - 14:14.


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Posted 26 March 2012 - 14:18

Definitely TTT. That's what I write down on my notes for each day anyway. Agree with Asasho about the banzuke...not really fair for the non-forum players.

Great it will be automated. I will of course be getting Chocshoporyu, Fujiyama and Mariyasu to join in at that stage so that's three extra players for a start.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 15:14

I would go along with Asasho and the Panda on the banzuke thing. Some of us, (me) would have played the test run differently if banzuke placement had been known to be at stake. That said, I probably would have ended up with zero :-D

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 11:33

I did really good on this game until I went to Osaka and then it all went to hell! I picked better when I wasn't watching anyone's sumo and had not seen any TV or digest. After I got there I put some thought into who will win and I went from being in like 2nd place with only one incorrect to going makekoshi :-(

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 15:16

I wasn't doing too well in this game at the beginning when still trying to pick obvious winners. Only when I decided to step down from the bandwagons, I picked up points. But I wonder whether the same thing will happen once secrecy kicks in.
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