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#1 Rijicho

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Posted 01 May 2004 - 12:35

Kaido!

#2 Kaikitsune Makoto

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Posted 01 May 2004 - 13:40

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Kaido was Sentoryu's main training foe for few years. They were the
number two and three at Tomozuna-beya and Sentoryu mentioned on his forum
that he gets good keiko against Kaido who is clearly stronger than other
Tomozuna-beya makushita/sandanme rikishi. Kaido was a good college rikishi
with substantial promise when he entered ozumo in Haru 1998 as 22-year
old. Tomozuna-oyakata and his stablemates expected him to get to juryo
much faster than he eventually did. Quite injury-prone with some bad knee
injuries hampering his career. He was at high makushita many times only to
be forced back due to injuries. After he suffered his last big knee injury
he was already thinking of quitting. It was once again at high makushita
rank and with good performance he was on his way to juryo.

Kaido belongs to Tomozuna-beya and in his shin-sekitori interview he gave
a lot of credit to KaioU for supporting him through the hard times and
always doing keiko with him and guiding him in many ways. He was KaioU's
tsukebito for many years too and has also quite similar sumo than the
ozeki. Kaido has hanged in there through tough times and even though he
still has problems with calf tears amongst others and his legs have a lot
of supports, it has been happier times for him since he got his second
juryo promotion.

He made his juryo debut (changed his shikona from Tanaka to Kaito
at that point) in Natsu 2003, lost his first three bouts before pushing Kokkai
out on day 4 for his first ever win as sekitori. He went on to win the next 5 bouts
but finished 7-8 and got just demoted back to makushita.
During the bad start of the basho KaioU joked to him that he
should start racking up wins or he has to do tsukebito-duty starting from
the very day he would have his make-koshi! Well Kaido got his make-koshi
on senshuraku. He was ready for juryo though and easily got back to juryo
for Aki. There he was looking more confident and his way of handling
powerful foes was very solid. He didn't have bad one-sided losses much at
all. 9-6 and a good promotion to J6. In Kyushu he continued his good juryo
sumo before his calf tear slowed him down and made him a sitting duck and
virtual shiroboshi automate. He finished the basho with a bad limp
accompanied 7 losses in last 8 bouts and got a feeble 5-10 record.

In Hatsu he started quite weakly again with three consecutive losses but
then improved significantly and finished with 8-7 including nice kotenage,
tottari and especially the clean tokkurinage victory against Oikari.In
Haru he was again somewhat dozy at first with the traditional 0-3 start
but then did excellent sumo humbling yusho winner Hakuho in the process
with very determined sumo. Steady performance to the end and another 8-7
kachi koshi has taken him to his highest ever rank J4E.

More about his sumo later...

Edited by Kaikitsune Makoto, 01 May 2004 - 13:41.

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Posted 01 May 2004 - 14:23

I don't know this guy.Thank you for the introduction, Kakitsune.
It seems he's a good guy for training.

#4 Takanobaka

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Posted 01 May 2004 - 15:32

Has anyone else noticed that his calves look like they would be in proportion with a 65 kg milquetoast rather than a behoemoth? That may have something to do with the frequent occurence of knee injuries...

He does, however, have a very powerful upper body, and if he's able to stay injury-free, I think he could yoyo around in Juryo for a few years and maybe even get a cup of coffee in Makuuchi once or twice...

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Posted 01 May 2004 - 22:12

Has anyone else noticed that his calves look like they would be in proportion with a 65 kg milquetoast rather than a behoemoth? That may have something to do with the frequent occurence of knee injuries...

He does, however, have a very powerful upper body, and if he's able to stay injury-free, I think he could yoyo around in Juryo for a few years and maybe even get a cup of coffee in Makuuchi once or twice...


Calves have some strong genetic factor because there are some rikishi whose calves really look small. There are no rikishi with weak looking thighs but some rikishi have very tall calves and look disproportionately thin compared to thighs. Kaido definitely has smaller calves than his overall size would suggest.

Barring further serious injuries I believe he can make it to makuuchi. I wouldn't be surprised if he even manages to compete at the lower part makuuchi without getting demoted immediately. He does have some very strong wins over rikishi who would in their current form already succeed in lower maegashira. He seems to grow along with tougher opposition. Maybe it is the massive experience training against KaioU that makes his confidence up against even very powerful foes.

Kaido with ozeki:

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Kaido carries a rather stereotypical sumobody. Looks fat but underneath
the fat layer resides a formidable muscle family. He is not very tall
(178cm) but weighs a good 150kg. 28 year old rikishi born in October 1975.
Definitely an unknown rikishi for big masses and stubborn anti-favourite
in Juryo Game. People don't find his sumo especially talented nor strong.
If you look closely, you may begin to see a solid package of good looking
basic yotsu sumo and controlled tsuki-tolerance. Reactions work too and
sumo suits him very well. He is spectacular without being spectacular. His
sumo is not shining although it does reflect high quality and usage of
power.

His sumo has lot of features from KaioU's sumo. Kotenage comes well as
does tottari. Hidari-yotsu is his favourite grip and he can display good
uwatenage in addition to yorikiri. Good defense against pushers too which
is only natural after numerous training bouts against Sentoryu. It is
often conspicuous how he is at home when fighting guys like Oikari or
Toyozakura who have similar upper body targeted attack like Sentoryu had.
He deployed a very characteristic KaioU-move at the tachi against
Towanoyama on day 7 in Haru. That kotenage tangent at the tachi-ai is
almost exclusively seen by KaioU every now and then. Kaido did the same
against Oginishiki on day 7 in Hatsu and has tried the same maneuvre in
other bouts too.


Kaido's tokkurinage against Oikari:

http://www.banzuke.c...ikari-Kaido.asf

Kaido at home against Toyozakura:

http://www.banzuke.c...akura-Kaido.asf
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#6 Kaikitsune Makoto

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Posted 03 May 2004 - 16:46

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......................


Questions!

1. What kind of impression do you have on Kaido so far?

2. Do you believe he is a lucky sekitori and really a forgotten makushita who is having some kind of perfect wave?

3. Will you pick him in Juryo Game? Why? Why not?

B-)
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Posted 03 May 2004 - 16:50

Answers, of a kind. B-)

1. I only noticed him because of Kaido/Kaito reading dilemma some time back. I know he's from Tomozuna (Kai being such a giveaway) and that'd be it.

2. I believe he is a sekitori, and that is all I am willing to admit at this time.

3. I will not, because there are too many other exciting rikishi down there whose faces I actually can recognize - and I hate picking rikishi I can't visualise. (Clapping wildly...)
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Posted 03 May 2004 - 17:33

1. Rikishi with robust sumo and injury-plagued legs.

2. He seems to have found his place in juryo for now. 8-7, 8-7 from mid/upper juryo is no lucky streak. And repeatedly coming back from 0-3 (and coming back from his juryo demotion as well) shows some spunk, IMO.

3. However, I don't think he has what it takes to get to makuuchi right now, in other words I expect makekoshi from him. On the other hand, I expected a bad result from him last basho too.

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Posted 03 May 2004 - 19:04

1. Rather injury-plagued former college competitor who has fairly unspectacular sumo, but who is more effective in getting wins than I ever give him credit for.

2. He has done his hard time and managed to take the hits without giving up. That plus his ability to actually stay in Juryo shows that he has what it takes for that level of competition. I doubt he will ever become Makunouchi, but can stay bouncing up and down within Juryo and upper Makushita for maybe another 2 or 3 years.

3. No, I won't. He's as high ranked as he's been and had to fight somewhat bravely even to get his 8 at lower levels than this. Therefore I try to find someone with a little more buffer between expected result and the kachi-koshi line. Besides, now that only 8 rikishi is to be picked in Juryo Game, one can afford not to pick the borderline cases as regards to supposed kachi-koshi.
Start a support group for pessimists? Nah, that would never work...

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Posted 04 May 2004 - 19:35

1. i never really paid much attention on him since i mostly watch makuuchi bouts.I recognise the name but knew very little about him....... (Whatever above, it is funny...)

2. cannot answer this one really......

3. i am not playing "Juryo game"


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Posted 05 May 2004 - 11:30

1) A physically strong, gritty performer who knows his limitations and is able to take advantage of them.

2) No, simply because he was good enough to start at Tsukedashi, so he had talent locked in there somewhere, but the string of injuries kept him from reaching where he should be.

3) He's be a risk for playing at just about any game as, while he probably can advance further, he seems to get by more on pectoral strength, smarts, and determination than on actual talent. A bigger factor, because he has such a weak lower body, I think he's about due for another injury, and any injury early in the basho hurts you in just about every game. Not that I play any of the games anymore...

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Posted 05 May 2004 - 12:19

I always liked Kaidō because he has a positive fighting style, trying to win and not easily giving up. Some of his bouts look really strong on his part while with others I just can't explain why he is losing again... (this is not as bad as with Kasugaō of course).

Regarding a Makuuchi promotion... the Makuuchi is having a major redesign right now and if he wants to play there he better jumps on the ship now as it might be getting more difficult later with some more talents moving up. It would surprise me though if he really does it. Of course most of his Jūryō kachi-koshi surprised me already, he has a way of clinching 8 wins without you noticing it against an opposition which gets better each basho because of his rank improving...

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Posted 07 May 2004 - 19:22

Why was he picked at the featured rikishi this week?

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Posted 07 May 2004 - 19:36

Why was he picked at the featured rikishi this week?

What's the matter Yoavo? Don't like surprises? (Laughing...)

Personally I like picks like this because they let us know a little something about rikishi we might not otherwise know anything about...ever.

It gives a face to the faceless, so to speak. (Clapping wildly...)

Edited by Zentoryu, 07 May 2004 - 20:00.

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Posted 07 May 2004 - 20:54

Why was he picked at the featured rikishi this week?

Easy - Kaidō is one of Kaikitsune's certified favorites. Especially the Kai-kanji is the same as the one in Kai-kitsune. Kai-ō is the only other Sekitori with this kanji in his shikona. (Laughing...) (Clapping wildly...)

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Posted 08 May 2004 - 23:41

Oh no, no problem or complaint at all. I was just curious. :-)

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Posted 10 May 2004 - 15:40

Why was he picked at the featured rikishi this week?


Doitsuyama's reply is very true in that Kaido is a big favourite of mine. Not just because he is from Tomozuna but because his sumo greatly impresses me in many ways. However, my personal favourites don't get special treatment in the process of choosing featured rikishi of the week.

Maybe the main reason why I chose Kaido is that nobody knows him despite the fact that he is not boring or uninsipiring with his sumo. Then again the fact that I am a fan of his, makes me more aware of the details of his sumo so maybe it did contribute to the decision to choose him to be the featured rikishi of the week :-P

And thank you all for replying to the thread! It is interesting to hear the views of other members concerning these featured rikishi even if you don't know them much at all. And by posting opinions based on "insecure observations" makes it fruitful for discussions if the opinion has some basis that everyone doesn't agree on! For example if featured rikishi would be Kotoryu, someone might say "He should stick to oshi where he is good at and not go to mawashi battle against tough yotsu-men!" and that comment could be challenged immediately :-/
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Posted 23 May 2004 - 18:23

Kai-ō is the only other Sekitori with this kanji in his shikona. (Applauding...) (In a state of confusion...)

And Kaiho? It's not the same kanji? :-(

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Posted 23 May 2004 - 18:44

Kaido's and Kaio's kaio means "emperor" or something like that, while Kaiho's means "sea" (same kanji that is usually read "umi" in shikona).
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Posted 29 May 2004 - 10:13

Actually, the "Kai" is commonly used in the heya, and although it is difficult to translate exactly, it means something like "leader"

the "OU" is the emperior part.

the "Do" in Kaido is the same as Bushido, Kendo, Judo, or "the Way."

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Posted 24 March 2006 - 17:31

Update 25.3.2006

Kaido's career has gone downhill since the beginning of 2005. Chronic and recurring knee injuries have made him a limping wreck. He spent his last basho in juryo in Haru 2005 and fell to makushita. Since then he was once close to returning to juryo but injury burden worsened dispatching him to middle makushita. He had something of a recovery now in Haru 2006 finishing with 5-2 at Ms25. He lost to Hakuba today though.
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Posted 19 August 2006 - 14:59

I'm quite sad to tell you, that Kaido's retirement was announced yesterday ;-)

You have a lot of informations here in this thread. He joined sumo 1998 after college and achieved Juryo 4 as highest rank.

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#23 Kaikitsune Makoto

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 16:29

I'm quite sad to tell you, that Kaido's retirement was announced yesterday sad.gif


He fought longer than one could imagine with such a burdened body. Not really sad that he retired. He was one of my all time favourite rikishi. Excellent hidari-yotsu and a history of major recuperations from bad injuries. He had 11 juryo basho altogether. 4 kachi koshi, 7 make koshi.
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Posted 19 August 2006 - 16:36

I'm quite sad to tell you, that Kaido's retirement was announced yesterday sad.gif


He fought longer than one could imagine with such a burdened body. Not really sad that he retired. He was one of my all time favourite rikishi. Excellent hidari-yotsu and a history of major recuperations from bad injuries. He had 11 juryo basho altogether. 4 kachi koshi, 7 make koshi.



You're right, so let's say, good for him and his health ... but sad for me, I always liked to see him on the dohyo and he was one of my favourites.

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 21:33

KaidoU leaves Kyokai for pastures new. The main reason for his intai was diabetes and the physical limits caused by that.

Edited by Kaikitsune Makoto, 22 August 2006 - 21:34.

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